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Online Casinos in general: Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

Topic created on 22nd Feb. 2019 | Page: 1 of 4 | Answers: 33 | Views: 4,342
stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

22nd Feb. 2019, at 11:03 pm CET#1
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Dear people

after my bust at ThisIsVegas Casino (win not paid out) I tested some slot games and compared welcome offers and read many of your posts.
Briefly something about me. I come from the sports stock market and due to a difficult phase, I take distance for now and look at this topic more closely....

After my first experience at one of your 'favorites' Slotmillion.com and the free spins that pepushed me within 24h from 20€ to 240€ (steadily increasing) other reports of new customers in casinos came to my mind
(Played übriegends 'Chilli Heat')

With next logging in I have consciously further the lowest employment selected, since the Slot-Wahrscheinlicheit to 'hold' and/or small losses/wins to fetch is most realistichsten.
So it should be possible, in the worst case, still pay out a few euros.
I am of course aware that the spins are 'supposed' to be individual according to the manufacturer.

And of course my experience of approx. 2x 24h is not representative, nevertheless it is worth mentioning, if one rises 24h steadily and in the next 24h steadily falls until one is at 0
and this in connection with a new user who plays there for the first time, that is already remarkable

But now to a question that follows this quasi directly
How is it possible that (many) casinos give 100% turnover conditions on slots? And on live events, for example, only 10%-25%
The warscheinlickeiten are officially the same and factually the slots are even checked for their warscheinlickeit and are monitored by CPU's.
In Poker, you can act as a player, but before the flop is just betting and clairvoyance is known that no one can

It makes no sense to give a player 100-300% bonus on a slot, which makes (unmanipulated) 3% win...
... .Without a security to be able to bind the customer!
The way it went with me I would wish it as a manager...
And the question about the 10-25% to live events is also not clear to me. In poker, where it is about percentages after the flop, it certainly makes more sense than . z.b in roulette

If you want to discuss something like that, then probably here








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wettibernd
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

22nd Feb. 2019, at 11:22 pm CET#2
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That's a good question, I just think that has to do with the fact that in a slot a game sequence is there in a few seconds. So the slot makes on average every 4 seconds 4% plus. With the other games it looks different, Roulette at least 2 minutes, Black Jack ... depending on how many people are at the table and what they do. With Poker, there is simply too little left over for the casino from the Pot and it also takes a long time. My conclusion is that in slots the money flow is always there. I also dare to bet that on some beach promenades the ice cream seller makes more sales in the summer than the jeweler.

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 04:40 pm CET#3
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It makes even less sense when you consider this fact, because the turnover increases at the same Risk (supposedly).
Slot players have to bet less than live players and are supposed to turn over less???

I am a little shocked that no one is interested in this...
The fact is that this rule only makes sense if the slot for the casino (significantly) less risk means higher turnover and speed!
And that is only so if the slots are controlled. At 95% absolutely damaging to business to set such a condition.

Today I have played 4 different slot in test mode (200Spins) - all clear loss

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Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 04:50 pm CET#4
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stevo11984 wrote on 02/23/2019 4:40 pm: It makes even less sense when you look at this fact because the turnover increases with the same Risk (supposedly).
Slot players must bet less than live players and are supposed to convert less???

I am a little shocked that no one is interested in this...
The fact is that this rule only makes sense if the slot for the casino (significantly) less risk means higher turnover and speed!
And that is only so if the slots are controlled. At 95% absolutely damaging to business to set such a condition.

Today I played 4 different slots in test mode (200Spins) - all clear loss

But as you know, the (theoretical) house advantage on slots is also higher. Which is of course also an argument. In many casinos, slots with very high RTP (e.g. Blood Suckers) are also excluded from the bonus turnover or are only calculated proportionally

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Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 04:52 pm CET#5
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And that "few" percent just makes a huge difference, especially for OC's

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 05:51 pm CET#6
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Horsepower44 wrote on 02/23/2019 4:52 PM: And the "few" percent just makes a huge difference, especially for OC's.

So math doesn't seem to be your strong suit ......

Just the fact brought in by wettibernd that a slot game is 5-10 times faster than a live game destroys your statement.
It is also not about 1or2% as talk here about the 5-6Fachen turnover for (not controllable) live events!

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Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:05 pm CET#7
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stevo11984 wrote on 02/23/2019 at 5:51 pm
So math doesn't seem to be your strong point ......

Just the fact brought in by wettibernd that a slot game is 5-10 times faster than a live game destroys your statement.
It is also not about 1or2% as talk here about the 5-6Fachen turnover for (not controllable) live events!

Nu, and by the fact that the slots run faster they bring in even more. I wonder which of us is making a mistake in thinking. 🤔

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:23 pm CET#8
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Horsepower44 wrote on 02/23/2019 6:05 PM
Nu, and by the fact that the slots run faster they just bring in even more. Wonder which one of us is making a thinking error. 🤔

Okay again very slowly. I think you do not understand the thought process...


Fact:
Slots
more revenue = more win
percentage regulated!
100% turnover condition

Live events - less turnover = less win
unregulated!
10-20% turnover condition

So and now explain to me who like that with the turnover conditions to explain would be!
In my opinion, there is only one explanation....

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stevo11984
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:29 pm CET#9
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The discrepancy clearly shows that the chances of winning (unofficially) are significantly higher at live events, which is the only way to explain the turnover requirements.

Why should the chances of winning be 5-6 times higher than in slots ? Is it officially absolutely not it is almost the same!

From this it can be concluded that the information of the slot manufacturers can not be correct!

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Horsepower44
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Probabilities of slots 90-97% ? Poker 97-98% ?

23rd Feb. 2019, at 06:37 pm CET#10
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stevo11984 wrote on 02/23/2019 6:23 PM
Okay again very slowly. I think you don't understand the thought process...


Fact:
Slots
more revenue = more win
percentage regulated!
100% turnover condition

Live events - less turnover = less win
unregulated!
10-20% turnover condition

So and now explain to me who like that with the turnover conditions to explain would be!
In my opinion, there is only one explanation....

Because the profit expectation for the player at the table is theoretically higher. And thus the OC earns less. What is there not to understand? Why should the OC do it the other way around? To cut its own flesh? Furthermore, we have already established that the slots run faster and are played more

What would be your explanation?

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