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Preliminary proceedings - involvement in illegal gambling
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I have just opened a letter from the public prosecutor's office.
"Dear Mr. XXX,
charges have been filed against you. You are accused of having committed criminal offenses in XXX since XXX 2021 (accusation: participation in illegal gambling)."
I'm in total shock right now and don't know what to do. Does anyone have any experience with this? I usually only read about summonses from the police. But here the letter came from the public prosecutor's office.
Greetings
Solos
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you are welcome to take a look at our news article: News article
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Hello Andre,
Thank you for your quick reply. In the articles I found here, there was only ever contact from the police. However, the public prosecutor's office contacted me.
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I've never heard anything from the police before. I assume that Commerzbank reported me. They terminated my account in July 2022 with effect from October 2022.
The letter from the public prosecutor's office doesn't say anything else. Except that I have been reported and accused of having participated in illegal gambling since XXX 2021.
And that I have 14 days to respond.
But the letter is already 14 days old and I received it in my letterbox today.
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Delivery is important for letters. It doesn't really matter when it was written. If you received it today, then you have 2 weeks from today.
Was it a yellow letter? I wouldn't worry about normal letters.
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Thanks for your reply.
It was a normal white letter.
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The matter was too long ago, you probably won't be able to remember it 😉
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I'm not a lawyer now, so I would ask that you don't rely 100% on my posts.
I would not panic. If you have the option, then I would consult a lawyer. Personally, I wouldn't pay any money for that. At least with normal letters you don't have to hurry yet and can wait and see what happens. It's a different story with yellow letters. If you violate the StVO, the notice usually comes in a normal envelope. If you ignore this, you will receive a yellow letter. No money will be demanded from you in the letter anyway. You are only given the opportunity to comment on the case. But I wouldn't comment on it alone.
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The question I ask myself is whether it's worth hiring a lawyer now to get access to the files. Or should I wait until the public prosecutor's office contacts me again?
In all the cases from various forums, the proceedings were always dropped in the end.
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I wouldn't use a lawyer yet. But I can't say whether that is wise. I have not yet received such a letter.
Yes, most of the cases I've seen here have been dropped. There was also one case where the accused actually had to pay a fine.
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Or can they only trace you if you pay out directly to your bank account, or do you have to be reported by your own bank first, or can they already trace you if you are registered on such a site and simply play?
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I believe that these reports mainly come from banks and probably mainly from house banks etc.
Theoretically, wallets could also report something like this, but the operators are usually not based in Germany and probably have little interest in doing so, as they also earn money from the transactions and knowingly offer them. They themselves know that these are basically illegal. Psc, for example, can no longer be used in casinos without a license or has at least withdrawn from some of them.
I would rule out the possibility that players or their PCs or cell phones or IP addresses are directly "monitored".
But that's just my assessment, I can't tell you exactly. In any case, it's no longer worth it to me and since then I've been concentrating on sports betting and the occasional 10 in DE casinos.
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i ask myself 2 questions..., 1. if this really came from Commerzbank back then, why is this letter only now reaching you? And secondly, if it's not from Commerzbank but from your current bank, how do they know that you've been doing this since 2021? Again, they would have to
have obtained information from Commerzbank?
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