Kronos1995 wrote on 08/31/2023 at 19:14:
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Pledoo offers refund - credit card Provider transfers money...
31.08.2023, at 16:30 #1
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Afternoon,
some of us must have received a mail from Pledoo. They say that the payment service provider has misappropriated funds and is involved in illegal activities. Pledoo was cheated out of its deposits and is now helping players recover their payments from credit card issuers because the provider cheated Pledoo.
The following mail came from Pledoo:
"To put it simply - the payment system provider (which is an outsourced service) that processed this transaction has been involved in illegal activities and the money didn't reach us.
After prolongated discussion with our legal team, we have made a decision to inform customers about this issue.
We are not requesting this money from you. Even better; you can receive your money back!
The facts are as follows:
- money goes back to you or no-one gets the money
For additional information, please respond to this email.
We cannot guarantee with 100% certainty that we will be able to assist you in recovering the funds, but you do have a fair chance and a solid legal basis.
Looking forward to your reply."
The next step was to send Pledoo my account statements from my MasterCard , the credit card had expired anyway and I had nothing to lose. After a few days, a mail came from Pledoo. It is an instruction how to proceed against my card issuer and a signed document from Pledoo with the payments made and that Pledoo has been defrauded by the service provider.
In addition, they refer to a special clause at Mastercard that the chargeback time only takes effect when the fraud has been reported by Pledoo to the player.
A few days later I received a letter from my card issuer with the following message:
"Dear Mr. XXX,
thank you very much for your message.
We will credit your card account with the total turnover of XXXX Euro that you complained about until final clarification.
Should the facts subsequently change or the complaint be unjustified, the provisional credit will be cancelled and charged to your card account in accordance with ( ).
If we need further details from you, we will contact you."
Of course, it's amazing that the card issuer refunded the money so quickly, but it's currently conditional and I'm afraid that the amount will be recovered.
Do you guys have any experience with this issue? What should I do? How long do you think it will take until the final clarification?
I was also credited with the deposits I made with reservations. Does anyone have experience with it, whether within the 45-day period on the part of the payment service provider was proceeded against? Kronos1995 had already been refunded the money conditionally at the end of August, so the deadline should have almost expired?
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9th Oct. 2023, at 11:46 am CEST#21
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Paulw wrote on 09.10.2023 at 09:47:
I was also credited the deposits made with reservations. Does anyone have experience with this, whether within the 45 day period on the part of the payment service Provider has taken action against it? Kronos1995 had already been refunded the money conditionally at the end of August, the deadline should have almost expired?
Greetings!
The 45 days are only valid for Mastercard. My deadline should be Thursday or Friday. So far, the money is still conditionally out of the account.
However, my bank is also keeping a very low profile as far as the procedure is concerned.
The 45 days only applies to Mastercard. My deadline should be Thursday or Friday. So far, the money is still conditionally out of the account.
My bank is also very cagey about the procedure.
I was even told on the phone, if nothing comes in the next two weeks, then that would be final. One would also only receive another message if the payment service Provider proceeds against the complaint. Keep us up to date! I will do the same.
I was even told on the phone that if nothing came in the next two weeks, that would be final. You would also only get another message if the payment service Provider takes action against the claim. Keep us up to date! I will do the same.
Will tomorrow again the support from the bank nerven. They do not give a clear announcement from when I can freely dispose of the money.
Update: So far I haven't heard anything back, so neither a reclaim, nor anything else. @Kronos1995 how does it look with you?
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21st Oct. 2023, at 04:43 pm CEST#25
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Paulw wrote on 10/21/2023 at 07:49: Update: So far I haven't heard anything back, so neither a clawback, nor anything else. @Kronos1995 how does it look with you?
Money was refunded immediately but under reservation, supposedly the reservation expired 2 weeks ago. From the bank came also never again what. All very strange but the money I have received directly.
Falke wrote on 22/10/2023 at 00:49: Just to clarify, you mean Casino Pledoo with Curacao license?
What payment Provider are you talking about? Have also played there once, but the support knows nothing about the story.
Could someone here enlighten me exactly what it's all about etc.
It concerned deposits via credit card that were made in a certain period (mid 2022). These were probably not forwarded to the casino for some reason, but were retained by the payment service provider. The casino apparently cannot get hold of the funds and, true to the motto - if we don't get it, the payment service provider shouldn't keep it either - has turned to the players and helped with the refund. It seems that all the players concerned were contacted. The money was refunded after a charge-back procedure was initiated via the credit card company.
Question, since I also received this email. How does this make sense for Pledoo? What about wins that were made without the bets ending up with the Provider? Do you get to keep them? It all sounds very nice on the part of the bookmaker. Have you had any other payouts?
Question, since I also received this email. What sense does this make for Pledoo. What about wins made without the bets ending up with the provider. Do you get to keep them? It all sounds very nice on the part of the bookmaker. Have you had any other payouts?
VG
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Hi,
from my point of view, it seems to have only idealistic reasons. I can remember receiving payouts during this time as well. Pledoo argues that either nobody gets the money (and thus it remains with the company you are in dispute with) or the customer gets it back. I interpret this as a kind of customer service, even though I have my doubts about this altruistic benevolence. I got the amounts refunded after about a month after a query on the part of the bank on 29.09. Until now I have not heard anything from the bank again.
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At which bank do you have your MasterCard?
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Since it is currently still an ongoing process I do not want to go into too much detail.
According to telephone support, the merchant now has 8 weeks to take action.
The money was refunded but only under reserve.
Now the question is, how far the Dealer goes against it and tries to talk his way out of it or if he ignores it.
Pledoo no longer responds to my messages.
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Greetings!
The 45 days are only valid for Mastercard. My deadline should be Thursday or Friday. So far, the money is still conditionally out of the account.
However, my bank is also keeping a very low profile as far as the procedure is concerned.
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I was even told on the phone, if nothing comes in the next two weeks, then that would be final. One would also only receive another message if the payment service Provider proceeds against the complaint. Keep us up to date! I will do the same.
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Will tomorrow again the support from the bank nerven. They do not give a clear announcement from when I can freely dispose of the money.
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Money was refunded immediately but under reservation, supposedly the reservation expired 2 weeks ago. From the bank came also never again what. All very strange but the money I have received directly.
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Pledoo offers repayment
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Which payment Provider is it? I played there once, but the support knows nothing about the story.
Could someone here enlighten me exactly what it is exactly about etc..
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If you have not received an email, then this does not apply to you.
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It concerned deposits via credit card that were made in a certain period (mid 2022). These were probably not forwarded to the casino for some reason, but were retained by the payment service provider. The casino apparently cannot get hold of the funds and, true to the motto - if we don't get it, the payment service provider shouldn't keep it either - has turned to the players and helped with the refund. It seems that all the players concerned were contacted. The money was refunded after a charge-back procedure was initiated via the credit card company.
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Pledoo offers repayment
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Question, since I also received this email. How does this make sense for Pledoo? What about wins that were made without the bets ending up with the Provider? Do you get to keep them? It all sounds very nice on the part of the bookmaker. Have you had any other payouts?
VG
Dedo
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Hi,
from my point of view, it seems to have only idealistic reasons. I can remember receiving payouts during this time as well. Pledoo argues that either nobody gets the money (and thus it remains with the company you are in dispute with) or the customer gets it back. I interpret this as a kind of customer service, even though I have my doubts about this altruistic benevolence. I got the amounts refunded after about a month after a query on the part of the bank on 29.09. Until now I have not heard anything from the bank again.
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