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Online Casinos in general: Online gambling and illegality (Page 2)

Topic created on 20th Jan. 2018 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 25 | Views: 7,523
c****7

Online gambling and illegality

22nd Jan. 2018, at 05:57 pm CET#11
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I share Daniel's view that it will either come to a legalization or a complete ban, whereby I think the first is more likely. If, on the other hand, the second case occurs and payments are blocked, gambling will continue by means of non-controllable payment methods such as crypto, cryptocasinos are already large, and some can be gambled anonymously. And a crypto shop with a license from Curacao doesn't care about German jurisdiction.

@TonioKroeger, who wrote:
Unlike Chmi77, for example, I don't like going to Spielos or casinos, which usually seem to me like Dante's hell ("Let those of you who enter, abandon all hope!")
The quote is very good, it is true in many gambling houses, but I have to add to the statement. I have to do professionally with the métier, it is just as little noble as e.g. the financial industry, where behind the beautiful bank towers people are ripped off and/or seized. That is unfortunately a fact. My relationship to gaming is more of a love-hate relationship anyway, so I don't really like reading the word "like" in that context. Basically, gaming, in whatever form, is brutal, money moves from the player to the operator and big money is made with the addicts. There is nothing to shake about it. There is a reason why people in the USA always talk about gaming and not gambling. The same climate of hopelessness can also be found in casinos, although it is even more awesome in the Anglo-Saxon world. I could tell you stories that would bring tears to your eyes, but that's not the point. When I gamble privately, gambling in the Spielo is the least financially evil, because the possibilities of loss are not as extreme as in casinos.
The negative aspect of gambling, on the other hand, is not so visible in Online Casinos because you are elegantly playing cashless from your usual home, but the mechanics of gambling are always the same.
Again about the gambling hall. There are well-run, clean Spielos with good service, but there are just as many dives and gambling dens. I like to compare it with gastronomy, from noble bars to dive bars, and it is the same with gambling houses. It is best to avoid the city center and the station district, even the big chains like Admiral, Löwenplay or Merkur are not always optimal. You have to look, good Spielos are hard to find, but they exist. Is like with good restaurants, same principle.

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Anonym

Online gambling and illegality

22nd Jan. 2018, at 06:09 pm CET#12
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So if the ban should come - and I think it is as I said not so unlikely - then the gambling has done for me to the whole.On cryptocurrencies I stand just as little as on Curaçao licenses (there are by the way even worse).In addition, I get lately anyway desöfteren to ponder whether it is not time to make an end with this topic. Threads like "looking for housing / become homeless" make me extremely thoughtful. But what can you change? You can only draw personal consequences.

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TonioKroeger
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Online gambling and illegality

24th Jan. 2018, at 03:33 pm CET#13
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chmi77 wrote on 22.01.2018 at 17:57: I share Daniel's view that it will either come to a legalization or a complete ban, whereby I think the former is more likely. On the other hand, if the second case happens and payments are blocked, gambling will continue by means of non-controllable payment methods like crypto, cryptocasinos are already big, partly you can gamble anonymously there. And a crypto shop with a license from Curacao doesn't care about German jurisdiction.

@TonioKroeger, who wrote:
Unlike Chmi77, for example, I don't like going to Spielos or casinos, which usually seem to me like Dante's hell ("Let those of you who enter, abandon all hope!")
The quote is very good, it is true in many gambling houses, but I have to add to the statement. I have to do professionally with the profession, it is just as little noble as e.g. the financial sector, where behind the beautiful bank towers people are ripped off or seized. That is unfortunately a fact. My relationship to gaming is more of a love-hate relationship anyway, so I don't really like reading the word "like" in that context. Basically, gaming, in whatever form, is brutal, money moves from the player to the operator and big money is made with the addicts. There is nothing to shake about it. There is a reason why people in the USA always talk about gaming and not gambling. The same climate of hopelessness can also be found in casinos, although it is even more awesome in the Anglo-Saxon world. I could tell you stories that would bring tears to your eyes, but that's not the point. When I gamble privately, gambling in the Spielo is the least financially evil, because the possibilities of loss are not as extreme as in casinos.
The negative aspect of gambling, on the other hand, is not so visible in Online Casinos because you are elegantly playing cashless from your usual home, but the mechanics of gambling are always the same.
Again about the gambling hall. There are well-run, clean Spielos with good service, but there are just as many dives and gambling dens. I like to compare it with gastronomy, from noble bars to dive bars, and it's the same with gambling houses. It is best to avoid the city center and the station district, even the big chains like Admiral, Löwenplay or Merkur are not always optimal. You have to look, good Spielos are hard to find, but they exist. Is like with good restaurants, same principle.

True, the word "gladly" was not very clever or in the context you described probably skewed, sorry. But spontaneously I would say that I "like" to sit at the computer and have an OC open in the background, even when I'm not playing. Everybody has different experiences. What also bothers you about Spielos at high stakes: You played high for a long time, nothing happened. Then someone else comes along, throws 20 cents into the machine that you fed with 300 euros and gets a full screen or something. In fact, it is probably no different in OCs as far as money distribution is concerned, only you don't see it 😊 …I don't know if there are good and savvy lobbyists who can now lobby (and argue like they do) for OC in Berlin or wherever, just like other representatives do. Too bad we can't send any...…Greetings

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redriver67
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Online gambling and illegality

24th Jan. 2018, at 03:50 pm CET#14
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vivera365 wrote on 22.01.2018 at 18:09: So should the ban come - and I think it's not that unlikely as I said - then the gambling has finished for me completely.On cryptocurrencies I'm just as little as on Curaçao licenses (there are also worse, by the way).In addition, I get lately anyway desöfteren to ponder whether it is not time to make an end with this topic . Threads like "looking for housing / become homeless" make me extremely thoughtful. But what can you change? You can only draw personal consequences.

I would also not Deposit with cryptocurrency in Oc. Would then rather go back to the Spielo from time to time. Although I'm there more like rarely times.

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RiverSong
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Online gambling and illegality

24th Jan. 2018, at 07:16 pm CET#15
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redriver67 wrote on 24/01/2018 at 15:50: I would also not Deposit with cryptocurrency in Oc. Would then rather go back to the Spielo from time to time. Although I'm there more like rarely times.

a hindering reason would certainly be that the currency is not really stable

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Anonym

Online gambling and illegality

24th Jan. 2018, at 07:36 pm CET#16
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They will ban Bitcoins in this country sooner or later. Nobody has control over it from the state side. And that is not possible at all!

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Anonym

Online gambling and illegality

24th Jan. 2018, at 08:06 pm CET#17
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So if there really should be a ban (which I do not believe), then Spielos for the time being would also not be an issue.
Am there anyway blocked at almost all in the area and in a pub I would ned gehn^^

The next casino would be Bad Wiessee and there I would have to drive for a while, what me because of my laziness
my laziness would certainly also partly restrict.

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Anonym

Online gambling and illegality

28th Jan. 2018, at 10:21 am CET#18
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Spielo or similar would not be an option for me either, so that would be the end for me as well.

Let's hope that it will be officially allowed. That would be great.

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Anonym

Online gambling and illegality

28th Jan. 2018, at 10:44 am CET#19
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So far, I would have said that we would have a decision by the end of 2018 - but since we still don't have a decision-making government by Easter, I don't think an agreement will be reached until 2019. Schleswig-Holstein will Tip the scales here - the only federal state that has so far awarded regular online licenses. However, SH has also completed a change of government.

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RiverSong
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Online gambling and illegality

28th Jan. 2018, at 03:10 pm CET#20
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my crystal ball, and it is nothing else, says that everything will stay as it is until it is legalized

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