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16th Aug. 2020, at 11:20 am CEST#1
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I would like to compare the two things, since they advertise about identical payout ratios (90 to 97%). My now over 3 years of experience with slots in Online Casinos are not good. With many slot providers, I can not even begin to understand the alleged Auszahlunsgquoten. With many games, you almost don't get into free spins or feature games at all, or only after insane spin numbers, and if you do, the wins are still measly. In addition, the large number of dead spins p**ses me off. Slots from Red Tiger, Red Rake, No Limit City and Microgaming were particularly negative. Especially with the latter, you can talk about fraud with a clear conscience, when even on high stakes (1.8 Eur and more) only joke wins in free spins like Terminator 2 come with announcement. There can simply be something wrong
At the casino, on the other hand, I can very well understand the payout ratio after about 6 visits. In addition, you play with renowned providers such as Merkur, Aristocrat or Novomatic. Going there is simply fun and it's almost hard to suffer a total loss with a reasonably disciplined style of play and reasonable stakes.
Conclusion: the visit of a casino beats the online casino by far. That is at least my experience. Theater show around payouts, Verification spinning etc....all this falls away anyway
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16th Aug. 2020, at 11:28 am CEST#2
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moosgruber wrote on 08/16/2020 at 11:20 AM
Conclusion: visiting a casino beats the online casino by far. At least that is my experience. Theater show around payouts, Verification spinning etc....all that falls away anyway.
On the subject of "verification spinning" I can only tell you that it all has a reason, which is anchored in law so. There must be an account, which must also be verified with documents/bank account
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16th Aug. 2020, at 11:34 am CEST#3
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So, so. And that's why I get wins without Verification at numerous online casinos. So the laws don't apply to them? And when depositing diligently, none of this matters. Tamtam goes off only reliably when you want ne payout.
My highlight Provider this year was b-bets. 5 payouts under 200 Eur went through without any problems. When I then 700 win achieved and wanted, went a grueling Ver.process with all chicanes. I quit at the end, gambled away the 700 and closed down there
moosgruber wrote on 16.08.2020 at 11:34: So, so. And that's why I get wins at numerous Online Casinos first without verification. So the laws don't apply to them then? And with the diligent depositing, it all doesn't matter either. Tamtam goes off only reliably when you want ne payout.
My highlight Provider this year was b-bets. 5 payouts under 200 Eur went through without any problems. When I then 700 win achieved and wanted, went a grueling Ver.process with all chicanes. I quit at the end, gambled away the 700 and closed down there.
I have to agree that if the payouts are not high they pay out quickly, if the payout amount increases they always re-verify or you have to upload your documents again in the latest version
When depositing you are never asked for you could Deposit 10000000 of Euros and lose and no one asks you for documents.
Therefore, I do not understand such a thing is already stupid.
Should you Deposit in a casino in a month 10000 euros or more, you must automatically show documents, including Source of Wealth!
Have a nice Sunday!
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16th Aug. 2020, at 12:00 pm CEST#6
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The Verification is carried out due to money laundering. Here is an excerpt from the Money Laundering Act, especially for offering Games of chance on the Internet
"Notwithstanding Section 11 , the obligated party may carry out preliminary identification of a player for whom it sets up a player account. 2 The preliminary identification may be made on the basis of a copy of a document pursuant to Section 12 (1) sentence 1 number 1 sent electronically or by post. 3 Full identification shall be carried out without delay. 4 Both preliminary and full identification may also be carried out on the basis of the identification and authentication requirements under gaming law."
moosgruber wrote on 16.08.2020 at 11:34: So, so. And that's why I get wins at numerous Online Casinos first without verification. So the laws don't apply to them then? And with the diligent depositing, it all doesn't matter either. Tamtam goes off only reliably when you want ne payout.
My highlight Provider this year was b-bets. 5 payouts under 200 Eur went through without any problems. When I then 700 win achieved and wanted, went a grueling Ver.process with all chicanes. I quit at the end, gambled away the 700 and closed down there.
i give 100% right - although I must say that I have always won worse offline than online...
i can only recommend: wildz+slotsmillion+twin (probably also Caxino - because they belong to Wildz +)
so with the casinos you can not do much wrong - and I think that you get your money everywhere - but Wildz are certainly the best with customer friendliness and kulanz - have seen so far no better - while Twin also had 0 problems with higher payouts
because yes at other casinos pull out the want proof of salary (ok at higher deposits) but not if one 50 € in the month deposits or a photo with the cell phone where you are on it is the ID + the casinos page gabs yes here already reports or marriage contracts so this is then in my eyes also arbitrary and has nothing more to do with the verification
so really only play at few but good casinos and do not be lured by other bonus offers - just like when someone says I won 30k in casino XY - what helps you then if you will never get your money
Jokerboy wrote on 16.08.2020 at 12:00: The Verification is carried out due to money laundering. Here is an excerpt from the Money Laundering Act, especially for offering Games of chance on the Internet
"Notwithstanding Section 11 , the obligated party may carry out a preliminary identification of a player for whom it sets up a player account. 2 The preliminary identification may be made by means of a copy of a document pursuant to Section 12 (1) sentence 1 number 1 sent electronically or by post. 3 Full identification shall be carried out without delay. 4 Both preliminary and full identification may also be carried out on the basis of the identification and authentication requirements under gaming law."
boy around that gehts not it goes around that and what @mossgruber addressed the arbitrary, - documents require - like marriage certificates wage statements ect.pp. (that with deposits never what is required and if one is already verified with small payouts also nothing needs - but woe a win over 10,000 - require the again everything.1 to win time maybe you lose again everything - or find a tiny little mistake so that you do not get a cent)
it's not about the law, it's about the fact that many casinos take advantage of this by asking for documents that may not be necessary and the casino hopes that if you don't gamble the money away first, they will find a tiny mistake because you misspelled a letter in your name and won't pay you your 50,000
well - but as already written by me above you just have to watch out in which casino you play
LOL: the TE has just opened: there you see again the complete arbitrariness you can tell me with no meaningful reason so that you need ID + own picture + website it on a photo as here TE describes what he had to do:
zocker0815 wrote on 16.08.2020 at 12:16 pm
i agree 100% - although I have to say that I have always won worse offline than online...
i can only recommend: wildz+slotsmillion+twin(probably also Caxino- because they belong to wildz+)
so with the casinos you can not do much wrong - and I think that you get your money everywhere - but Wildz are certainly the best with customer friendliness and kulanz - have seen so far no better - while Twin also had 0 problems with higher payouts
because yes at other casinos pull out the want proof of salary (ok at higher deposits) but not if one 50 € in the month deposits or a photo with the cell phone where you are on it is the ID + the casinos page gabs yes here already reports or marriage contracts so this is then in my eyes also arbitrary and has nothing more to do with the verification
so really only play at few but good casinos and do not be lured by other bonus offers - just like when someone says I won 30k in casino XY - what helps you then if you will never get your money
Look that's how it differs. I quit WILDZ after the 15th unsuccessful deposit. Did not get a green branch there. It was cruel. Not much different with slotmillions. A really nice casino that didn't want any Verification stuff was Winning Room. I regret closing my account there. So often free spins at Bonanza and nice wins I have experienced nowhere so far
Well, the Verification procedure is at many casinos, especially with higher wins, absolute arbitrariness and an attempt to stall for time to move the player to "gamble".
Example.
At Wildz 1x verified and all withdrawals went through until today without any problems!
In some other casinos, you have to verify after each major payout request again whereby here in my opinion only time wants to be won, in which the player gambles away his money again
Suddenly the verification takes forever, allegedly documents are missing or have never arrived, additional documents are required at the beginning of the verification request were not required...
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At the casino, on the other hand, I can very well understand the payout ratio after about 6 visits. In addition, you play with renowned providers such as Merkur, Aristocrat or Novomatic. Going there is simply fun and it's almost hard to suffer a total loss with a reasonably disciplined style of play and reasonable stakes.
Conclusion: the visit of a casino beats the online casino by far. That is at least my experience. Theater show around payouts, Verification spinning etc....all this falls away anyway
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On the subject of "verification spinning" I can only tell you that it all has a reason, which is anchored in law so. There must be an account, which must also be verified with documents/bank account
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My highlight Provider this year was b-bets. 5 payouts under 200 Eur went through without any problems. When I then 700 win achieved and wanted, went a grueling Ver.process with all chicanes. I quit at the end, gambled away the 700 and closed down there
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I have to agree that if the payouts are not high they pay out quickly, if the payout amount increases they always re-verify or you have to upload your documents again in the latest version
When depositing you are never asked for you could Deposit 10000000 of Euros and lose and no one asks you for documents.
Therefore, I do not understand such a thing is already stupid.
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Must correct you there!
Should you Deposit in a casino in a month 10000 euros or more, you must automatically show documents, including Source of Wealth!
Have a nice Sunday!
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"Notwithstanding Section 11 , the obligated party may carry out preliminary identification of a player for whom it sets up a player account. 2 The preliminary identification may be made on the basis of a copy of a document pursuant to Section 12 (1) sentence 1 number 1 sent electronically or by post. 3 Full identification shall be carried out without delay. 4 Both preliminary and full identification may also be carried out on the basis of the identification and authentication requirements under gaming law."
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i give 100% right - although I must say that I have always won worse offline than online...
i can only recommend: wildz+slotsmillion+twin (probably also Caxino - because they belong to Wildz +)
so with the casinos you can not do much wrong - and I think that you get your money everywhere - but Wildz are certainly the best with customer friendliness and kulanz - have seen so far no better - while Twin also had 0 problems with higher payouts
because yes at other casinos pull out the want proof of salary (ok at higher deposits) but not if one 50 € in the month deposits or a photo with the cell phone where you are on it is the ID + the casinos page gabs yes here already reports or marriage contracts so this is then in my eyes also arbitrary and has nothing more to do with the verification
so really only play at few but good casinos and do not be lured by other bonus offers - just like when someone says I won 30k in casino XY - what helps you then if you will never get your money
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boy around that gehts not it goes around that and what @mossgruber addressed the arbitrary, - documents require - like marriage certificates wage statements ect.pp. (that with deposits never what is required and if one is already verified with small payouts also nothing needs - but woe a win over 10,000 - require the again everything.1 to win time maybe you lose again everything - or find a tiny little mistake so that you do not get a cent)
it's not about the law, it's about the fact that many casinos take advantage of this by asking for documents that may not be necessary and the casino hopes that if you don't gamble the money away first, they will find a tiny mistake because you misspelled a letter in your name and won't pay you your 50,000
well - but as already written by me above you just have to watch out in which casino you play
LOL: the TE has just opened: there you see again the complete arbitrariness you can tell me with no meaningful reason so that you need ID + own picture + website it on a photo as here TE describes what he had to do:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/casinobeschwerden/voodoodreams/voodoodreams-storniert-auszahlungen-und-konto-gesperrt-seit-4-wochen-trotz-vorheriger-verifizierung--177477/
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Look that's how it differs. I quit WILDZ after the 15th unsuccessful deposit. Did not get a green branch there. It was cruel. Not much different with slotmillions. A really nice casino that didn't want any Verification stuff was Winning Room. I regret closing my account there. So often free spins at Bonanza and nice wins I have experienced nowhere so far
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Example.
At Wildz 1x verified and all withdrawals went through until today without any problems!
In some other casinos, you have to verify after each major payout request again whereby here in my opinion only time wants to be won, in which the player gambles away his money again
Suddenly the verification takes forever, allegedly documents are missing or have never arrived, additional documents are required at the beginning of the verification request were not required...
zeitschinderei ..everything already experienced ...
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