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Online Casinos in general: Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman (Page 4)

Topic created on 28th Jul. 2021 | Page: 4 of 4 | Answers: 34 | Views: 8,470
evopower140
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

30th Jul. 2021, at 01:21 am CEST#31
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Antiheld1335 wrote on 29.07.2021 at 23:49
I claim that a fraud report of a Maltese online casino at a German prosecutor's office would first of all cause extensive laughter and then go directly into the circular file.

This is exactly how the Maltese authorities will react to those who spoil their kohler and then think ah I'll get them again. If this goes so the whole EU is questioned am times curious one hears only from judgments however there is still no confirmation that ever someone also really got his money

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Falke
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

30th Jul. 2021, at 02:15 am CEST#32
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evopower140 wrote on 30.07.2021 at 01:21
Exactly so will the Malesischen authorities on the Reagieren their kohler spoiled and then think ah I get me again. If this goes so the whole EU is questioned am times curious one hears only from judgments however there is still no confirmation that ever someone also really got his money.

The Maltese authorities have NOTHING, zero, purely nothing to do with it.
It concerns with such processes pure civilian processes. You hire a lawyer and he sends the casino via a court, so to speak, an invoice for the sum XY with a payment deadline until date XY.

Now the casino can either pay the sum or they simply do not respond to the letter, which is tantamount to a concession.

Within one month the casino can raise an objection. If this is done then a hearing will be held in Germany/Austria and the judge will check whether the money claim is justified or not.

If the judge gives the plaintiff (player) (R)right then the plaintiff has obtained an enforcement title. This can be enforced EU wide (even beyond, but then it gets more complicated)


No Maltese authority has anything to do with it. And if the enforcement order ends up with a Maltese bailiff, then he just does his job and collects the money. He does not check whether this title is unjustified in his opinion or not. He does not have the authority to do so. The title obtained in Germany is valid without exception and is of course also accepted by Maltese authorities

And on the subject of the EU. In Austria you can get your losses back because the European Court of Justice has repeatedly decided and confirmed, through all instances, that the gambling legislation is a matter of individual countries and the EU has nothing to say. Or why do you think Germany is just making its own law/license?

Please, if you do not know something, then simply ask or inquire. But do not constantly put things out of the belly in the room that are not correct in the back and front

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Almoehi
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

30th Jul. 2021, at 02:35 am CEST#33
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The lady deposited the money and the casino has to pay it back, it can handle that. The money has not disappeared into thin air.

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Klaeger

Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

31st Jul. 2021, at 07:38 pm CEST#34
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Enforcement is not a problem. With the titling of the court judgment, the debtor's (casino) German accounts can be seized with an attachment order. If this should not be fruitful, the forced administration of the Internet domain is usually requested. This must be granted in accordance with the titling. This is where the casinos pay.

German courts are responsible according to Art. 17 and 18 EUGVVO. As a consumer, you can file a lawsuit at the court of your place of residence
I also think it is right that Online Casinos are punished and have to refund the losses of the players. Because the State Treaty on Gambling is characterized by the understanding that Player protection, gambling and betting addiction to counteract, are in priority. Accordingly, a player is to be protected from illegal gambling providers and their illegal gambling offers. After all, they do not have a German license and thus have not gone through a licensing procedure, which means that the gambling offer cannot be checked. There are increasingly rulings in favor of the players. The courts also argue that the freedom to provide services is compatible with national laws, especially protective laws in the gambling sector

That the player is punished, according to 285 StGB is very unlikely, because this requires an act of intent. Furthermore, the casino is to be taken here in the duty and not the player

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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

1st Aug. 2021, at 11:59 pm CEST#35
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Tonka bean wrote on 28.07.2021 at 15:37: I would be very interested to know which casino this was ?

https://www.radiohochstift.de/nachrichten/paderborn-hoexter/detailansicht/online-casino-muss-paderbornerin-132000-euro-zurueckzahlen.html

But that was not an online casino but a casino as I have noticed. (it was about an internerjackpot had an error and has given to 7 machines at the same time. That the whole thing for the security questions has looked like fraud and the not very polite with the woman are dealt with is also understandable

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