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Online Casinos in general: Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

Topic created on 28th Jul. 2021 | Page: 1 of 4 | Answers: 34 | Views: 8,310
Tonkabohne
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 03:37 pm CEST#1
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I would be very interested to know which casino this was ?

https://www.radiohochstift.de/nachrichten/paderborn-hoexter/detailansicht/online-casino-muss-paderbornerin-132000-euro-zurueckzahlen.html

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Anonym

Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 03:45 pm CEST#2
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It's so crazy...... they pay in and want their money but when they lose they scream like little kids.
Probably they will then soon verdonken 100k again.

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risolym
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 04:53 pm CEST#3
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I dare to doubt that this is final.
The regional court is the 2nd instance, should the casino appeal, a verdict could be pronounced (if in favor of the plaintiff), which completely changes such cases in the future.
In addition, I wonder which casino without a DE license, which is probably located in Malta, can be dragged before a German court at all.

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Anonym

Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 04:55 pm CEST#4
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risolym wrote on 28.07.2021 at 16:53: That this is final, I dare to doubt.
The district court is the 2nd instance, should the casino appeal, a verdict could be pronounced (if in favor of the plaintiff) that completely changes such cases in the future.
In addition, I wonder which casino without a DE license, which is presumably located in Malta, can be dragged before a German court at all.

Hope she then also has to pay the costs

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Falke
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 05:31 pm CEST#5
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risolym wrote on 28.07.2021 at 16:53: That this is final, I dare to doubt.
The district court is the 2nd instance, should the casino appeal, a ruling could be made (if in favor of the plaintiff) that completely changes such cases in the future.
In addition, I wonder which casino without a DE license, which is probably located in Malta, can be dragged before a German court at all.

Normally, higher courts only check if there is a procedural error, if some application was filed incorrectly and if the verdict was properly justified. In most cases, you can not bring '' new evidence'' in the higher instance. Mostly there is only controlled whether everything went by right.

So why should the verdict not hold?

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Olli_Eule
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 05:36 pm CEST#6
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playing illegally and then still claiming money back...

so if I do forbidden things, then I will be punished

at some point you buy heroin and sue the Dealer to refund the money... crazy

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DieWunderharke5000
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 05:48 pm CEST#7
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Let's say she always deposited 1,000€ and gambled it away. Then she made the decision to Deposit and lose over 100 times. And pressed Spin thousands of times


Zero compassion. I hope it's some Curacao joint that doesn't care at all what a German court judges

If she won a million, she wouldn't pay back a cent if she really only realized afterwards that it wasn't legal

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Gerichtsvollzieher
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 09:49 pm CEST#8
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The casino that lost the lawsuit is at the top of the ranking here

Basically every casino will fail in German court.

Even if most here probably do not want to read that and think to refer to the EU freedom of services.

The example with the heroin Dealer is a bit lame but according to German law, the addict would also have a right to damages and the recovery of the money

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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 10:29 pm CEST#9
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Horsemann wrote on 28.07.2021 at 21:49: The casino which lost the lawsuit is on top of the ranking here

Basically every casino will fail in German court.

Even if most here probably do not want to read that and mean to refer to the EU freedom of services.

The example with the heroin Dealer lags a bit but according to German law, the addict would also have a right to damages and the recovery of the money

And why do most people not want to read it ? Because it is always the same you play and win and say no sound but if you play and lose is all evil illegal and manipulated and you want your money back

As if they were not adults in a DE casino or arcade they would not get a cent back and who pays for the fun in the end? All others who gamble because a company certainly does not sit on it

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Falke
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Online casino must pay back 132,000 euros to Paderborn woman

28th Jul. 2021, at 11:12 pm CEST#10
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DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 07/28/2021 at 17:48: Let's say she always deposited 1,000€ and gambled it away. Then she made the decision to Deposit and lose over 100 times. And pressed spin thousands of times


Zero compassion. I hope it's some Curacao joint that doesn't care at all what a German court judges

If she won a million, she wouldn't pay back a cent if she really only realized afterwards that it wasn't legal.

I find it almost schizophrenic how you talk in other threads about how gambling addicts take their own lives and then at the same time in such threads consider it totally reprehensible if someone gets 100,000 euros back.

Who in their right mind would ever deposit that kind of money to get a few pictures spinning? That the woman has a massive gambling problem is obvious and the casino has done NOTHING about it.

That some casino manager gets himself a new Porsche and sips cocktails in Haiti at the expense of an addictive disease and to the sorrow of another person for the money seems to bother no one. It's just because it's voluntary - what kind of voluntariness is there in addiction?

I am also absolutely in favor of personal responsibility, etc. But a minimum of Player protection must be in place.
The casino didn't care if this woman lost her entire livelihood and did so consciously. As if a casino would not know with such high deposits that in most cases a person just financially destroys itself. The even speculate on it and then send every day very '' special'' offers to squeeze out the last.

I begrudge them the payback and I hope that many others will follow. Casinos are many things, but certainly not a moral place. Whoever enriches himself when a person just destroys himself, I certainly do not cry a tear after the fact that now the new Porsche must be financed by another addict.

If a casino acts normally and accepts more or less inconspicuous deposits, then there is nothing at all to object to. But over 100,000 in a single casino and the casino does not find that unusual, no, you support it even.

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