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7th Oct. 2017, at 06:27 am CEST#11
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@Stealth
I don't mean to offend you but I find your posts in this thread inappropriate and hypocritical.
Why?
You write that you are addicted to gambling, play high stakes "without sight", have 12,500 EUR plus and unfortunately your credit card is still valid for one month so you keep playing. I find your statements simply negligent.
Before you go off like a rocket, I begrudge you every cent of win, that's not the point.
It's about the following two points.
1) The argument that you are gambling because your CC has one month left is a joke. If you seriously want to stop gambling, block the card, cancel it prematurely and demand a proportional refund of the fees. Is there a corresponding judgment on the subject, that is, the bank MUST comply with your request.
I have cancelled all my CC with immediate effect, i.e. blocked and sent by registered mail with notice to the banks. Point from end.
2) Here in the forum are many small / entertainment players who read your posts and possibly think, "Hey, I want to win so much so I play high"...and then one thing leads to another. Hopefully you realize how dangerous that can be. Don't tempt people to high roll, that's not recommended to anyone! There are masses of people who have never snatched four figures or higher, don't make them keen on it. Irresponsible without end.
I've been playing for 20 years, I've been through all the ups and downs and if I could turn back time I'd keep my hands off the shit because it's a waste of time and money. Unfortunately it's in my personality, will probably never stop. I'm on a losing streak this year. I am today, as of 7.10.17 in the period from January 17 with 64,500 € in the red, another sixty-four thousand five hundred. What I have gambled away in my life is seven figures. That's the shit that comes out of high rolling. So people don't. Play Playstation, go to the gym, please your wives, anything, but gambling won't get you anywhere. If you lose, you want to do it again, if you win, you want to play again, so it's all useless, no matter how you turn it around. And the big win, by which one is provided for, that doesn't exist, maybe if one hits a lottery Jackpot, but who happens that and even then many have sunk the money again.
Topic hypocrisy.
You write here long and wide about the unfortunately still active credit card, which represents a temptation for you. You know what, I'm just like you, have always left open back doors to gamble. So I blocked Sofort, ergo Giropay. I blocked online banking, then Ewallets, then credit cards, then PSC. None of this is any good. If you want to gamble, there is a way and believe me, with your win in the cross, it will gnaw at you. In a pinch, you buy PSC, go to the Spielo or even the casino.... Either you recognize the problem and leave it or you belong to the cat.
Again, I do not make the moral one here, I speak from experience. And I have nothing against you as a person Stealth but you are at a crossroads here, if your posts are true, and believe me the abyss with Gambling addiction is deep (also here...own experience). Gambling is a hunger that can never be satisfied...
You write you have all your gambling loss back in, that pleases me....but leads me to believe you haven't been gambling that long, because the potential losses are beyond your imagination. It's all you have and ever will have and beyond. That's the nature of the game.
If you're smart, you'll say to yourself, "I got off lightly, that's it."
There are people who can gamble away X amount per month and see it as fun and never exceed that amount, sort of like going to the movies....but most of us are active or latent gambling addicts...our trips to the movies cost 1000 EUR upwards...
Sorry Stealth, I had to get that off my chest. As I said, it's not a personal attack. Wish you all here in the forum the necessary reason and insight and do not overdo it when gambling, because as you all know, the hobby is not harmless.
Please do not forget that mathematics cannot be defeated. Is like a law of nature, sum X of the stake always remain with the operator. Every strand, up or down, balances out, in the end there is a guaranteed loss per game. You can only win in the long run if you play a game where skill prevails and where you play against other players (e.g. poker), if you cheat (e.g. you have good friends in the Eastern European football league and know in advance how the game will turn out) or if you become a gambling operator yourself. In all other cases your money is not gone, but definitely somewhere else.
Ok, I thought I was in a casino forum and not in a Gambling addiction forum where you are not allowed to talk about wins.
Everything I wrote is true and I just shared my experience.
Here is a short statement:
1.) Credit card
Yes it is stupid, I agree. But imagine you win back all your losses and then try to quit. The bank told me the contract ends 10/31/2017 and that triggered the impulse. Was a month free of play before that. But again YES a stupid excuse to keep playing. On this point I agree with you completely.
2.) Tempting to high stakes
- Often meant ironically AND I have actually written in every post that you should NOT play like that.
- I often warn against gambling addiction
- I talk about my win, but try to explain directly that it is not a win, but only compensates the losses
- I am not new, I have been playing since 2008
- I am of the opinion that there are hardly any "small/entertainment players". This is usually only the first stage in the gambling addiction
YES, I am addicted to gambling and trying to get it under control. It is hard to stop after a streak. Because of prolonged illness and depression I slipped the gambling addiction. I have now managed that and have a psychologist with whom I am now also working on the gambling thing.
If my posts came across wrong, I apologize. Was not my intention.
Ok, I thought I was in a casino forum and not in a Gambling addiction forum where you are not allowed to talk about winnings.
Everything I wrote is true and I just shared my experience.
So are you and your opinions and experiences are welcome, all good! There are of course lucky streaks and you can also be ahead for a certain time. You have also written that you would not recommend anyone to play the sledgehammer method but some here have somehow not read the part or faded out, which I also found somehow frightening and irritating. Therefore, thanks to you chim77 for this stirring contribution.
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7th Oct. 2017, at 04:00 pm CEST#16
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deposited 10 euros, Jack and the Beanstalk on 40 cents - over 9000 coins - just under 200 euros. Why not played on 4 euros
Video is filmed with cell phone, does that make sense to upload something like that?
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7th Oct. 2017, at 11:01 pm CEST#17
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Congratulations Avantgarde, just under 200 euros with ner 10 euro Deposit are super
On 4 euros you could not even make 3 spins (no wins provided)
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7th Oct. 2017, at 11:12 pm CEST#18
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tby333 wrote on 07.10.2017 at 23:01: Congratulations Avantgarde, just under 200 euros with a 10 euro Deposit are super
On 4 euros you could not even make 3 spins (no winnings provided)
Right again
Have me slowly played up and then came the FS.
Afterwards just always the same "Why not on higher stakes."
But I'm satisfied, a bit gambled and 150 cashed out
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8th Oct. 2017, at 11:34 pm CEST#19
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Stealth wrote on 07/10/2017 at 12:36 PM: Ok, I thought I was in a casino forum here and not a Gambling addiction forum where you are not allowed to talk about winning.
Everything I wrote is true and just shared my experience.
Here is a short statement:
1.) Credit card
Yes it is stupid, I agree. But imagine winning back all your losses and then trying to quit. The bank told me the contract ends 10/31/2017 and that triggered the impulse. Was a month free of play before that. But again YES a stupid excuse to keep playing. On this point I agree with you completely.
2.) Tempting to high stakes
- Often meant ironically AND I have actually written in every post that you should NOT play like that.
- I often warn against gambling addiction
- I talk about my profit, but try to explain directly that it is not a profit, but only compensates the losses
- I am not new, I have been playing since 2008
- I am of the opinion that there are hardly any "small/entertainment players". This is usually only the first stage in the gambling addiction
YES, I am addicted to gambling and trying to get it under control. It is hard to stop after a streak. Because of prolonged illness and depression I slipped the gambling addiction. I have now managed that and have a psychologist with whom I am now also working on the gambling thing.
If my posts came across wrong, I apologize. Was not my intention.
It's OK, Stealth. Again, I'm not attacking you humanly. You can get rid of what you want here, it's definitely a gamers forum.
Unfortunately, gambling and gaming addiction are just like grandma and grandpa, belong together.
What triggered the impulse for the post for me is because you mentioned your gambling addiction and in the same breath told about the credit card and your game/playing behavior.
Reminded me of myself a long time ago. Once in a night at the casino, the story is epic, someday I'll tell it but am too tired now to write a long post, got back everything I had ever lost at that point. Very high five figures. It just went highstakes Roulette, I played higher and higher, ending up with 200 EUR chips on numbers. Had several 7,200 EUR hits. That day I vowed never to play again, to be done with it.
Unfortunately I didn't, was gambling the very next day with a bunch of 500s and to this day I still play, sometimes more sometimes less as I have time and money, it varies. Has steered my life in a certain direction. In retrospect, I would choose differently. Because everything in life has a price, that is unfortunately so.
I guess you are young, max 30...but can be wrong, in that case, sorry. You have a lot of life ahead of you. Don't make the mistake I made. I have told many people not to make my mistakes, a few have taken it to heart, most have not.
If you have a real exit point now, with no financial damage, then make the decision that is right for you. Look at it this way, millions of gamblers in this world dream of recouping their losses and then never gambling again.... Maybe you belong to this small select circle, to whom fate grants this luck. If that is not a Jackpot of a lifetime...
@chmi77 you wrote that you had also once regained everything you had lost. You resolved to quit, but then you still didn't do it. You also wrote that millions of players dream of recovering their losses.
You didn't stop at that point. Stealth hasn't stopped at that point either. And I was also once at this point that I was even 5,000€ ahead at least with online gambling. I also resolved to stop at that point. But the opposite happened and everything got worse. The dream became a nightmare.
Unfortunately, it is not that easy and Gambling addiction cannot be solved even with money. Even if a gambling addict would win 20 million euros, he would not stop. He would only increase his bets sooner or later to 1.000€ / spin (in state casinos or in some online casinos).
Unfortunately, it's not that simple - even if some players (including me in the past) are convinced that they themselves would not be so "stupid" and continue playing after a giga-win. It's simply not about the money but about the thrill and there are usually other problems. With me it was the heavy depression. It was alleviated by gambling at that time. The depression is relatively well under control but the addiction unfortunately remained.
Stealth should try therapy. Blocking credit cards and other measures are only the first step. In Germany, unfortunately, you can never completely exclude yourself from gambling, because everywhere are Slot machines without access control (pubs, snack bars, gas stations & Co.). And even at such machines it is possible to spend 10.000€ - 30.000€ per month without any problems. But at such machines you never have the chance to really win but the same Risk to lose your fortune if you are not one of the top 1% of the top earners in this country.
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I don't mean to offend you but I find your posts in this thread inappropriate and hypocritical.
Why?
You write that you are addicted to gambling, play high stakes "without sight", have 12,500 EUR plus and unfortunately your credit card is still valid for one month so you keep playing. I find your statements simply negligent.
Before you go off like a rocket, I begrudge you every cent of win, that's not the point.
It's about the following two points.
1) The argument that you are gambling because your CC has one month left is a joke. If you seriously want to stop gambling, block the card, cancel it prematurely and demand a proportional refund of the fees. Is there a corresponding judgment on the subject, that is, the bank MUST comply with your request.
I have cancelled all my CC with immediate effect, i.e. blocked and sent by registered mail with notice to the banks. Point from end.
2) Here in the forum are many small / entertainment players who read your posts and possibly think, "Hey, I want to win so much so I play high"...and then one thing leads to another. Hopefully you realize how dangerous that can be. Don't tempt people to high roll, that's not recommended to anyone! There are masses of people who have never snatched four figures or higher, don't make them keen on it. Irresponsible without end.
I've been playing for 20 years, I've been through all the ups and downs and if I could turn back time I'd keep my hands off the shit because it's a waste of time and money. Unfortunately it's in my personality, will probably never stop. I'm on a losing streak this year. I am today, as of 7.10.17 in the period from January 17 with 64,500 € in the red, another sixty-four thousand five hundred. What I have gambled away in my life is seven figures. That's the shit that comes out of high rolling. So people don't. Play Playstation, go to the gym, please your wives, anything, but gambling won't get you anywhere. If you lose, you want to do it again, if you win, you want to play again, so it's all useless, no matter how you turn it around. And the big win, by which one is provided for, that doesn't exist, maybe if one hits a lottery Jackpot, but who happens that and even then many have sunk the money again.
Topic hypocrisy.
You write here long and wide about the unfortunately still active credit card, which represents a temptation for you. You know what, I'm just like you, have always left open back doors to gamble. So I blocked Sofort, ergo Giropay. I blocked online banking, then Ewallets, then credit cards, then PSC. None of this is any good. If you want to gamble, there is a way and believe me, with your win in the cross, it will gnaw at you. In a pinch, you buy PSC, go to the Spielo or even the casino.... Either you recognize the problem and leave it or you belong to the cat.
Again, I do not make the moral one here, I speak from experience. And I have nothing against you as a person Stealth but you are at a crossroads here, if your posts are true, and believe me the abyss with Gambling addiction is deep (also here...own experience). Gambling is a hunger that can never be satisfied...
You write you have all your gambling loss back in, that pleases me....but leads me to believe you haven't been gambling that long, because the potential losses are beyond your imagination. It's all you have and ever will have and beyond. That's the nature of the game.
If you're smart, you'll say to yourself, "I got off lightly, that's it."
There are people who can gamble away X amount per month and see it as fun and never exceed that amount, sort of like going to the movies....but most of us are active or latent gambling addicts...our trips to the movies cost 1000 EUR upwards...
Sorry Stealth, I had to get that off my chest. As I said, it's not a personal attack. Wish you all here in the forum the necessary reason and insight and do not overdo it when gambling, because as you all know, the hobby is not harmless.
Please do not forget that mathematics cannot be defeated. Is like a law of nature, sum X of the stake always remain with the operator. Every strand, up or down, balances out, in the end there is a guaranteed loss per game. You can only win in the long run if you play a game where skill prevails and where you play against other players (e.g. poker), if you cheat (e.g. you have good friends in the Eastern European football league and know in advance how the game will turn out) or if you become a gambling operator yourself. In all other cases your money is not gone, but definitely somewhere else.
In this sense.
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And I too say "thank you for your words!"
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Everything I wrote is true and I just shared my experience.
Here is a short statement:
1.) Credit card
Yes it is stupid, I agree. But imagine you win back all your losses and then try to quit. The bank told me the contract ends 10/31/2017 and that triggered the impulse. Was a month free of play before that. But again YES a stupid excuse to keep playing. On this point I agree with you completely.
2.) Tempting to high stakes
- Often meant ironically AND I have actually written in every post that you should NOT play like that.
- I often warn against gambling addiction
- I talk about my win, but try to explain directly that it is not a win, but only compensates the losses
- I am not new, I have been playing since 2008
- I am of the opinion that there are hardly any "small/entertainment players". This is usually only the first stage in the gambling addiction
YES, I am addicted to gambling and trying to get it under control. It is hard to stop after a streak. Because of prolonged illness and depression I slipped the gambling addiction. I have now managed that and have a psychologist with whom I am now also working on the gambling thing.
If my posts came across wrong, I apologize. Was not my intention.
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So are you and your opinions and experiences are welcome, all good! There are of course lucky streaks and you can also be ahead for a certain time. You have also written that you would not recommend anyone to play the sledgehammer method but some here have somehow not read the part or faded out, which I also found somehow frightening and irritating. Therefore, thanks to you chim77 for this stirring contribution.
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Video is filmed with cell phone, does that make sense to upload something like that?
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On 4 euros you could not even make 3 spins (no wins provided)
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Right again
Have me slowly played up and then came the FS.
Afterwards just always the same "Why not on higher stakes."
But I'm satisfied, a bit gambled and 150 cashed out
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It's OK, Stealth. Again, I'm not attacking you humanly. You can get rid of what you want here, it's definitely a gamers forum.
Unfortunately, gambling and gaming addiction are just like grandma and grandpa, belong together.
What triggered the impulse for the post for me is because you mentioned your gambling addiction and in the same breath told about the credit card and your game/playing behavior.
Reminded me of myself a long time ago. Once in a night at the casino, the story is epic, someday I'll tell it but am too tired now to write a long post, got back everything I had ever lost at that point. Very high five figures. It just went highstakes Roulette, I played higher and higher, ending up with 200 EUR chips on numbers. Had several 7,200 EUR hits. That day I vowed never to play again, to be done with it.
Unfortunately I didn't, was gambling the very next day with a bunch of 500s and to this day I still play, sometimes more sometimes less as I have time and money, it varies. Has steered my life in a certain direction. In retrospect, I would choose differently. Because everything in life has a price, that is unfortunately so.
I guess you are young, max 30...but can be wrong, in that case, sorry. You have a lot of life ahead of you. Don't make the mistake I made. I have told many people not to make my mistakes, a few have taken it to heart, most have not.
If you have a real exit point now, with no financial damage, then make the decision that is right for you. Look at it this way, millions of gamblers in this world dream of recouping their losses and then never gambling again.... Maybe you belong to this small select circle, to whom fate grants this luck. If that is not a Jackpot of a lifetime...
In this sense.
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You didn't stop at that point. Stealth hasn't stopped at that point either. And I was also once at this point that I was even 5,000€ ahead at least with online gambling. I also resolved to stop at that point. But the opposite happened and everything got worse. The dream became a nightmare.
Unfortunately, it is not that easy and Gambling addiction cannot be solved even with money. Even if a gambling addict would win 20 million euros, he would not stop. He would only increase his bets sooner or later to 1.000€ / spin (in state casinos or in some online casinos).
Unfortunately, it's not that simple - even if some players (including me in the past) are convinced that they themselves would not be so "stupid" and continue playing after a giga-win. It's simply not about the money but about the thrill and there are usually other problems. With me it was the heavy depression. It was alleviated by gambling at that time. The depression is relatively well under control but the addiction unfortunately remained.
Stealth should try therapy. Blocking credit cards and other measures are only the first step. In Germany, unfortunately, you can never completely exclude yourself from gambling, because everywhere are Slot machines without access control (pubs, snack bars, gas stations & Co.). And even at such machines it is possible to spend 10.000€ - 30.000€ per month without any problems. But at such machines you never have the chance to really win but the same Risk to lose your fortune if you are not one of the top 1% of the top earners in this country.
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