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Online Casinos in general: Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions (Page 3)

Topic created on 15th Dec. 2023 | Page: 3 of 3 | Answers: 43 | Views: 3,977
Daniel1988
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 10:54 am CET#31
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Play the Novomatic slots in German casinos, especially AdmiralBet!
The game processes seem very suspicious to me, especially if you continue playing after the 5 minute break.
Waiting for server response, after pressing the start button it takes at least 4 seconds for the spin to start at all.
All this despite the best internet connection, the calculator seems to have a lot of work to do during the spins 😂

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gamble1
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 03:51 pm CET#32
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 19.12.2023 at 08:52: Of course, well-known casinos like Platin, Chipstars and co. are now offering fake slots to scam people. As soon as it is confirmed that this is really fake, no one will play there anymore and they can close their store.

As some people here immediately shout, fake, fake, funny, haha 😂

Look at the real things in the source code and then compare this version with others from Novo - who wouldn't call it fake?


Thirdly, even the StarGames manager says it's fake and as far as I know StarGames is 100% Novomatic

Why should someone who already gambles in some Curacao casinos suddenly draw the line because a game is fake? The others are real

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Das_Phantom
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 04:17 pm CET#33
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But it would be very unlikely that all "Curacao casinos" now offer fake slots and sometimes even advertise them in a big way...

As I understand it from my "contact", Novomatic has set up some kind of off-shore company on some island (N2) and then churned out the licenses to all kinds of countries.

And somewhere I could also understand that Novomatic also wants to serve other markets apart from those with an MGA license.
But whether it's all true... who knows. But I still can't believe that it's all fake. I think the marketing campaign is too big for that.

Let's see if StarGames_Official has any more information for us.

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gamble1
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 06:39 pm CET#34
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Das_Phantom wrote on 19.12.2023 at 16:17: But that would be very unlikely that all "Curacao casinos" now offer fake slots and sometimes even advertise them in a big way...

As I understand it from my "contact", Novomatic has founded some kind of off-shore company on some island (N2) and then chased out the licenses to all possible countries.

And somewhere I could also understand that Novomatic also wants to serve other markets apart from those with an MGA license.
But whether it's all true... who knows. But I still can't believe that it's all fake. I think the marketing campaign is too big for that.

Let's see if StarGames_Official has any more information for us.

But a company as big as Novomatic would offer better than something like this, which actually sucks compared to the performance of an old Magic Games machine

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Falko
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 06:44 pm CET#35
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gamble1 wrote on 19.12.2023 at 18:39:
But a company as big as Novomatic would offer better than that, it's even shit compared to the performance of an old Magic Games machine

I had a Magic Games machine in my house several years ago. But there was no Book of Ra on my Magic Games machine. I can still remember that these machines were three times as expensive back then when Book of Ra was included.

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gamble1
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 08:10 pm CET#36
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Falko wrote on 19.12.2023 at 18:44:

I once had a Magic Games machine in my house several years ago. But there was no Book of Ra on my Magic Games machine. I can still remember well that these machines were 3x as expensive back then when Book of Ra was included.

I think Book of Ra was on the MG2 machines, but I could be wrong, I still have a few old machines lying around here and they should still have it

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gambler67
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 09:25 pm CET#37
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Please don't forget that they now only have a Curacao license - I don't trust them - with the original game you can choose the number of lines. Everyone can still decide for themselves whether to play it or not. I would also be interested to know why Platin switched from the MGA to the other license in the first place. I can't get an answer to this question from VIP Support

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T0uchTheSky
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 09:38 pm CET#38
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gamble1 wrote on 19.12.2023 at 15:51:

Look at the real things in the source code and secondly compare this version with others from Novo who wouldn't call it fake


Thirdly, even the StarGames manager says it's fake and StarGames is 100% Novomatic as far as I know

Why should someone who already gambles in some Curacao casinos suddenly draw the line because a game is fake? The others are real

Just because the title "Manager" is above the avatar doesn't mean that someone is really the manager of the casino, it could also be an intern or a normal employee

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btssultan
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 10:22 pm CET#39
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StarGames_Official wrote on 18.12.2023 at 20:40:
As we are not experts in fake slots, we honestly don't know what the deals look like with their distribution.

But since they are not the originals, you can never be sure if

1. they are certified in any way, i.e. whether they and their Random Number Generator are mathematically correctly programmed;

2. the RTP figures are correct at all, or whether they claim 92% but are actually 80% or even lower;

3. they work in the same way as the original versions. Although they look the same, it may be that win lines throw different multipliers, or that e.g. 3 books do not bring any free spins at all.

We would advise against playing these games. Thank you for your understanding.

If I remember, the games at Platincasino run via softswiss (iGaming Provider for gambling software), which has also concluded a content agreement with you Greentube or the Novomatic Group, which also includes Greentube (subsidiary) and providers such as StarGames etc., since around 2019.

I therefore do not assume that this is a "fake", but merely a legal market expansion, as Novomatic would probably call it.

Apart from that, it would be questionable why games from Pragmatic and co. also run on the official servers of the game providers and only not on yours? Would be a bit pointless ... I mean, if I make something illegal, then I do it completely, but certainly not just partially.

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Das_Phantom
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 11:14 pm CET#40
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gamble1 wrote on 19.12.2023 at 18:39:
But a company as big as Novomatic would offer better than that, it's even shit compared to the performance of an old Magic Games machine

Who knows what exactly was sold with the license (if it was). Possibly just the rights for graphics, sounds, game modes etc. What a game developer who has bought the license then does with it is perhaps up to them - as long as the actual product is still recognizable.

Similar to franchise movies

Would at least explain why the slots act slightly differently under N2.

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gamble1
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 11:22 pm CET#41
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 12/19/2023 21:38:
Just because the title "Manager" is above the avatar doesn't mean that someone is really the manager of the casino, it could be an intern or a regular employee

I realize that I'm not completely stupid either


@The_Phantom

It's possible, but as a rule you pay a little attention to quality assurance

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Falko
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 11:23 pm CET#42
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gambler67 wrote on 19.12.2023 at 21:25: Please don't forget that they now only have a Curacao license - I don't trust them - with the original game you can choose the number of lines. Everyone can still decide for themselves whether to buy it or not. I would also be interested to know why Platin switched from the MGA to the other license in the first place. I can't get an answer to this question from VIP Support


It's easy to answer why Platin Casino switched from the MGA license to the Curacao license. In Germany, there are many lawsuits where people are allowed to claim back their lost money from Online Casinos with an MGA license and this is permitted by law. As a result, online casinos in Malta are faced with high claims for damages. These casinos can only escape this if they no longer have an MGA license. This is the reason why Platin now has a Curacao license and many other casinos have also switched from the MGA license to a Canadian license. Then they are also out of the strict European area, because Malta is also a member of the EU.

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garfield68
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Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 11:51 pm CET#43
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Falko wrote on 19.12.2023 at 23:23:

That's easy to answer why Platin Casino switched from the MGA license to the Curacao license. In Germany there are a lot of lawsuits where people are allowed to sue back their lost money from Online Casinos with MGA license and this is allowed by law. As a result, online casinos in Malta are faced with high claims for damages. These casinos can only escape this if they no longer have an MGA license. This is the reason why Platin now has a Curacao license and many other casinos have also switched from the MGA license to a Canadian license. Then they are also out of the strict European area, because Malta is also a member of the EU.

@falko I hadn't thought of it that way before, but I think you might be right.

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StarGames_Official
Experienced

Novomatic playable on Depositwin without restrictions

19th Dec. 2023, at 11:54 pm CET#44
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This is the last time we will comment on this topic. The slots there are fake. If you still want to think they're not, that's up to you.

We are trying to clarify a few of your points, as these do not prove anything or are even wrong.

If I remember, the games at Platincasino run via softswiss (iGaming Provider for gaming software), which has also concluded a content agreement with you Greentube or the Novomatic Group, to which Greentube (subsidiary) and providers such as StarGames etc. also belong, since around .2019.

Yes, that may be. But that doesn't confirm anything. Each game provider can decide for itself in which market it wants to see its games again. In such a deal, the game provider can therefore specify: "I will have my games played via Softswiss in country XY, but only there and in no other country". This is also an option.

The Greentube games have NOT been playable in non-regulated markets (i.e. markets that can be reached with a Curacao license) for years.

Apart from that, it is questionable why games from Pragmatic and co. also run on the official servers of the game providers and only not on yours?

Perhaps Pragmatic doesn't attach so much importance to whether they also supply non-regulated markets. This would at least explain why you can also play their Live Casino games on some sites, even though this would not be legal from Germany.

Who knows what exactly was sold with the license (if it was). Possibly just the rights for graphics, sounds, game modes etc. What a game developer who has bought the license then does with it is perhaps up to them - as long as the actual product is still recognizable.

Believe us: not a single game developer, not even the smallest ones, would license parts (graphics, sound, math) of their top games to some small company (which nobody has ever heard of) and say: "Hey, do whatever you want with it, no matter what it looks like. You can also use it on illegal sites."

It would be as if someone could take partial rights from Disney and George Lucas over the Star Wars story (a few short cuts, well-known statements, music), and then put them together in a game and redistribute them on illegal sites. No matter what it looks like.

That does more harm to the content than good. Although we are talking about slots, we are talking about IP (Intellectual Property) rights, as you generally know from the film or sports production industry.

Just because the title "Manager" is above the avatar does not mean that someone is really the manager of the casino, it could also be an intern or a normal employee

We have already made it clear in other threads that our account is monitored by our customer service team as well as the marketing/operations team. We can therefore also make statements regarding game providers, contracts with game manufacturers, advertising and German gambling regulation. Because we have been working with these topics for years - not as interns.

As I said, that was our last statement on the subject, as we want to focus on our own brand and on the original games.

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