For me, fake music is a 100% sign of a fake. We can ask the Stargames_Official nicely to take a look at these things...? He'll be able to tell us what it's all about 🙂
Hello, thank you for reporting this, also via Communicator. The slots there are fake. We have already initiated the next possible steps.
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18th Dec. 2023, at 11:01 am CET#17
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StarGames_Official wrote on 18.12.2023 09:24:
Hello, thank you for reporting, also via Communicator. The slots there are fake. We have already initiated the possible next steps.
Thank you very much for looking into this.
I would be interested to know who gets the bets in such a fake slot. Do they go entirely to the casino or do they share the revenue with the programmer? It is striking that many casinos offered these fake slots at almost the same time and they all look the same, i.e. they all come from the same source. Someone must be offering them to the casinos... How exactly does this work?
Edit: Since I'm on vacation and therefore have time, I tested 2 games in the demo. Book of Ra classic and Lucky Lady. I played each for about 30 minutes on various bets and didn't get any free spins. Do they even exist or are the fake slots just meant to cash in?
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18th Dec. 2023, at 11:20 am CET#18
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Interesting. I recently found out from an Affiliate that the slots are probably not fake. I was also wondering about that. He was probably talking to a casino employee or manager... I don't know... who confirmed that the slots are from "Novomatic - N2" and not from "Greentube".
No idea what that means. Can't find anything about it either. Let's see what StarGames_Official finds out.
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18th Dec. 2023, at 05:25 pm CET#20
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hustlehoff wrote on 16.12.2023 at 09:20: I once heard that casinos offer something like this as "fake slots" but with a normal - very good RTP. Simply because the games are so popular.
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18th Dec. 2023, at 08:32 pm CET#21
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Das_Phantom wrote on 18.12.2023 at 11:20 am: Interesting. I recently found out from an Affiliate that the slots are probably not fake. I was also wondering. He was probably talking to a casino employee or manager... I don't know... who confirmed that the slots are from "Novomatic - N2" and not from "Greentube".
No idea what that means. Can't find anything about it either. Let's see what StarGames_Official finds out.
We can promise you that the Novomatic slots online are only developed and distributed by the Greentube Group. There is no other company that sells these slots online, unless the slots are fake.
If you can't find any results for a company with a simple Google search, that should already be a red flag.
Max_Bet wrote on December 18, 2023 at 11:01 am:
Thank you so much for looking at this.
I would be interested to know who gets the bets in such a fake slot. Do they go entirely to the casino or do they share the revenue with the programmer? It is striking that many casinos offered these fake slots at almost the same time and they all look the same, i.e. they all come from the same source. Someone must be offering them to the casinos... How exactly does this work?
Edit: Since I'm on vacation and therefore have time, I tested 2 games in the demo. Book of Ra classic and Lucky Lady. I played each for about 30 minutes on various bets and didn't get any free spins. Do they even exist or are the fake slots just meant to cash in?
As we are not experts in fake slots, we honestly don't know what the deals look like when they are distributed.
However, as they are not the originals, you can never be sure if
1. they are certified in any way, i.e. whether they and their Random Number Generator are mathematically correctly programmed;
2. the RTP figures are correct at all, or whether they claim 92% but are actually 80% or even lower;
3. they work in the same way as the original versions. Although they look the same, it may be that win lines throw different multipliers, or that e.g. 3 books do not bring any free spins at all.
We would advise against playing these games. Thank you for your understanding.
StarGames_Official wrote on 18.12.2023 at 20:40:
As we are not experts in fake slots, we honestly don't know what the deals look like with their distribution.
But since they are not the originals, you can never be sure if
1. they are certified in any way, i.e. whether they and their Random Number Generator are mathematically correctly programmed;
2. the RTP figures are correct at all, or whether they claim 92% but are actually 80% or even lower;
3. they work in the same way as the original versions. Although they look the same, it may be that win lines throw different multipliers, or that e.g. 3 books do not bring any free spins at all.
We would advise against playing these games. Thank you for your understanding.
Only scam casinos offer fake slots. All casinos in the Vesus Odds group offer the same Novomatic slots, even my favorite casino Chipstars, I don't think they are all scam casinos. In any case, the slots run better than the ones in the De Buden, haha.
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18th Dec. 2023, at 09:26 pm CET#24
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T0uchTheSky wrote on 18.12.2023 at 21:04:
Only scam casinos offer fake slots. All the casinos in the Vesus Odds group offer the same Novomatic slots, even my regular casino Chipstars, I don't think they are all scam casinos. In any case, the slots run better than the ones in the De Buden, haha.
Keyword Chipstars: you also play regularly with bonuses. Didn't we discuss their Bonus terms and conditions here a while ago, and we found out some weird things like "bonus amounts have to be cleared bit by bit with extremely tough wagering requirements" or something like that Did that turn out to be different in the close-up test after all, or why are you involved there now? Thanks in advance. Mr. Touch
Langhans wrote on 18.12.2023 at 21:26:
Keyword Chipstars: you also play regularly with bonuses. Didn't we discuss their bonus conditions here some time ago and found out weird things like "bonus amounts have to be cleared bit by bit with extremely hard wagering requirements" or something like that Has this turned out to be different in the close combat test or why are you involved there now? Thanks in advance. Mr. Touch
Yes, it's true that I often play with Bonuses or only with good bonuses. But I play Raw at Chipstars and of course I've taken the bonuses with me, because I often play the tournaments there too, and if you wager a lot, you'll get the bonuses converted at some point There's also 10% Cashback on your losses and 5% rackback every week. In addition, they pay out very quickly, yesterday at about 11 pm 550 euros requested, and 1 minute wa1 the money already there, I've never had it so fast, usually always at least a few hours.
But if you like to play with bonuses, Chipstar is not suitable.
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18th Dec. 2023, at 09:55 pm CET#26
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T0uchTheSky wrote on December 18, 2023 at 9:46 pm:
Yes, that's right that I often play with Bonuses or only with good bonuses. But at Chipstars I play Raw and of course I took the bonuses with me, because I often play the tournaments there, and if you wager a lot, you will get the bonuses at some point There is also 10% Cashback on your loss and 5% rackback every week. In addition, they pay out very quickly, yesterday at about 11 pm 550 euros requested, and 1 minute wa1 the money already there, I've never had it so fast, usually always at least a few hours.
But if you like playing with bonuses, Chipstar is not suitable.
ah ok, so that's why you joined...I see. So nothing has changed and the Bonushans still prefer to stay away
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18th Dec. 2023, at 10:37 pm CET#27
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Here is a quote from a well-known English-language forum (CM) from the manager and CEO of the L&L Casino Group on this topic:
just spoke to another veteran in the industry and the novo's that are appearing on curacao licensed casinos are indeed the real novo games. It's not a direct integration, it all goes through one aggregator that has been setup for this.
Whether that's true or not I can't say, but it's not just anyone who says that.
On the subject of fakes, by the way. Greentube also claims that it has nothing to do with the old StarGames. But then I find it strange that Ms. Christine Sommer put exactly the same signature under every advertising email before 2012 as she does today. Or does the games manager of StarGames not really exist and is just a fake?
I don't know if this already came but Platincasino also has them in today at least Book of Ra have even given 50 free spins to start and a 100% bonus
I'll take a closer look at the fun when I have some time later but the way the game was running it felt like a very very old version as it had almost 5 seconds rule in performance
So the manufacturer is N2Games you can find a n2.com page which is just being set up
So either a fake or a small studio that has received the license from Novomatic
But I would really hope it's fake otherwise it would be a laughing stock even the Novomatic logo doesn't load smoothly the animations are too fast in turbo mode even more unrealistic the win amounts look different and somehow everything seems strange for my taste the whole structure in the background from server redirection to the mere folder structure fits 0.0 to a big player like Book of Ra and Novomatic and even if they didn't make the fun themselves they certainly wouldn't have released such a "simple" version
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19th Dec. 2023, at 08:52 am CET#30
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Of course, well-known casinos such as Platin, Chipstars and co. are now offering fake slots to scam people. As soon as it's confirmed that it really is fake, no one will play there anymore and they can close up store.
As some people here immediately shout, fake, fake, funny, haha 😂
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Hello, thank you for reporting this, also via Communicator. The slots there are fake. We have already initiated the next possible steps.
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Thank you very much for looking into this.
I would be interested to know who gets the bets in such a fake slot. Do they go entirely to the casino or do they share the revenue with the programmer? It is striking that many casinos offered these fake slots at almost the same time and they all look the same, i.e. they all come from the same source. Someone must be offering them to the casinos... How exactly does this work?
Edit: Since I'm on vacation and therefore have time, I tested 2 games in the demo. Book of Ra classic and Lucky Lady. I played each for about 30 minutes on various bets and didn't get any free spins. Do they even exist or are the fake slots just meant to cash in?
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No idea what that means. Can't find anything about it either. Let's see what StarGames_Official finds out.
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Was right ^^
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We can promise you that the Novomatic slots online are only developed and distributed by the Greentube Group. There is no other company that sells these slots online, unless the slots are fake.
If you can't find any results for a company with a simple Google search, that should already be a red flag.
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As we are not experts in fake slots, we honestly don't know what the deals look like when they are distributed.
However, as they are not the originals, you can never be sure if
1. they are certified in any way, i.e. whether they and their Random Number Generator are mathematically correctly programmed;
2. the RTP figures are correct at all, or whether they claim 92% but are actually 80% or even lower;
3. they work in the same way as the original versions. Although they look the same, it may be that win lines throw different multipliers, or that e.g. 3 books do not bring any free spins at all.
We would advise against playing these games. Thank you for your understanding.
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Only scam casinos offer fake slots. All casinos in the Vesus Odds group offer the same Novomatic slots, even my favorite casino Chipstars, I don't think they are all scam casinos. In any case, the slots run better than the ones in the De Buden, haha.
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Keyword Chipstars: you also play regularly with bonuses. Didn't we discuss their Bonus terms and conditions here a while ago, and we found out some weird things like "bonus amounts have to be cleared bit by bit with extremely tough wagering requirements" or something like that Did that turn out to be different in the close-up test after all, or why are you involved there now? Thanks in advance. Mr. Touch
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Yes, it's true that I often play with Bonuses or only with good bonuses. But I play Raw at Chipstars and of course I've taken the bonuses with me, because I often play the tournaments there too, and if you wager a lot, you'll get the bonuses converted at some point There's also 10% Cashback on your losses and 5% rackback every week. In addition, they pay out very quickly, yesterday at about 11 pm 550 euros requested, and 1 minute wa1 the money already there, I've never had it so fast, usually always at least a few hours.
But if you like to play with bonuses, Chipstar is not suitable.
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ah ok, so that's why you joined...I see. So nothing has changed and the Bonushans still prefer to stay away
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just spoke to another veteran in the industry and the novo's that are appearing on curacao licensed casinos are indeed the real novo games. It's not a direct integration, it all goes through one aggregator that has been setup for this.
Whether that's true or not I can't say, but it's not just anyone who says that.
On the subject of fakes, by the way. Greentube also claims that it has nothing to do with the old StarGames. But then I find it strange that Ms. Christine Sommer put exactly the same signature under every advertising email before 2012 as she does today. Or does the games manager of StarGames not really exist and is just a fake?
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I'll take a closer look at the fun when I have some time later but the way the game was running it felt like a very very old version as it had almost 5 seconds rule in performance
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So either a fake or a small studio that has received the license from Novomatic
But I would really hope it's fake otherwise it would be a laughing stock even the Novomatic logo doesn't load smoothly the animations are too fast in turbo mode even more unrealistic the win amounts look different and somehow everything seems strange for my taste the whole structure in the background from server redirection to the mere folder structure fits 0.0 to a big player like Book of Ra and Novomatic and even if they didn't make the fun themselves they certainly wouldn't have released such a "simple" version
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As some people here immediately shout, fake, fake, funny, haha 😂
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