I feel more like a burden has been lifted. The casino would have requested safe documents at some point and with the support (I've emailed them three times and got a reply once) it would have been a lot of stress. Apart from the illegality of the whole thing.
I can well understand that some of you would have acted differently. But of course you can easily say that if you weren't in the situation.
For me, the main issue was that the time to pay out was simply too long and it's not even said that the casino would have paid out permanently. Without a license, they can simply block my account from one day to the next with a flimsy justification.
I have already contacted an addiction counseling center by e-mail and will make an appointment there soon as soon as I get an answer.
The way I see it: I didn't actually gamble away any of my property, but an amount that was there. Yes, the amount would have helped me to pay off my debts. But if I had paid the money into my account to pay my debts, the bank would have safely asked where it came from and then there would have been problems.
If I could have paid it out to my crypto wallet in one lump sum, I would have done it safely. Then the amount would have been on my wallet and I wouldn't have been able to do anything with it.
I wouldn't have been able to think about anything else, which would have ruined my life and I would have had to worry about money that I didn't (yet) have and possibly would never have gotten because the casino would have interfered somehow. They don't have such payout limits and no settings for turnover and betting limits for nothing.
The moral of the story:
I should never have started playing. And I wish you continued success if gambling is a big part of your life. Either when you hit it big or when you stop.
Next time (if there is one), just use a cryptowallet. It's available locally for your computer or cell phone without having to enter any data. And if you have 170,000 euros (!!!!!!!!), just give the account to your brother or something and have it paid out.
I'm not blaming you, you can see the whole issue from different perspectives.
Of course, the debts would be gone, etc., etc., but perhaps there would have been bad repercussions from the authorities' point of view.
The problem is Gambling addiction and dealing with money while gambling, most people are normal earners and such sums in one go in combination with a gambling addiction are in fact an excessive demand, which usually takes a lot of time to process.
So by the time you are "clear" about your high, you have basically already lost again.
But as I said, you also have to learn to deal with it.
Money is definitely not the most important thing in life and as an outsider you can now make a lot of accusations as to why and why not!
On the other hand, you can also say that if he had never played, it would never have come to such a sum, meaning it would have been a day like any other, perhaps without debts and with a few more euros in the account, but the process would have been identical.
In any case, I wish you all the best for the future and that the positives will overshadow the negatives.
You should have donated the money instead of burning it, how selfish can you be? Well, karma takes care of it. Dude they even offer tokens !!! 170k could have been paid out in tokens ROFL. I don't give a shit how long it takes xD Ohman there are really people with a total sock shot sorry but my opinion.
Zockerbernd wrote on 30.03.2025 at 07:14: You should have donated the money instead of burning it, how selfish can you be. Well, karma takes care of it. Dude they even offer Jeton !!! 170k could have been paid out in tokens ROFL. I don't give a shit how long it takes xD Ohman there are really people with a total sock shot sorry but my opinion.
A little more sensitivity would be appropriate here. You can always express your opinion, of course, but why do you have to be malicious? The very last thing this guy needs is malice.
eUR 500 per day is also a really lousy payout policy. As a gambler, imagine you have 170,000 euros on the clock, and you have to log in every day, are not allowed to touch the money, and every day you only get 500 euros...
That's 340 days until the money is there. And then for someone who is addicted to gambling and has the jitters.
Kuki134 wrote on 29.03.2025 at 20:35: Thank you for your opinions.
I feel more like a burden has been lifted. The casino would have safely requested documents at some point and with the support (I emailed them three times and got a reply once) it would have been a lot of stress. Apart from the illegality of the whole thing.
I can well understand that some of you would have acted differently. But of course you can easily say that if you weren't in the situation.
For me, the main issue was that the time to pay out was simply too long and it's not even said that the casino would have paid out permanently. Without a license, they can simply block my account from one day to the next with a flimsy justification.
I have already contacted an addiction counseling center by e-mail and will make an appointment there soon as soon as I get an answer.
The way I see it: I didn't actually gamble away any of my property, but an amount that was there. Yes, the amount would have helped me to pay off my debts. But if I had paid the money into my account to pay my debts, the bank would have safely asked where it came from and then there would have been problems.
If I could have paid it out to my crypto wallet in one lump sum, I would have done it safely. Then the amount would have been on my wallet and I wouldn't have been able to do anything with it.
I wouldn't have been able to think about anything else, which would have ruined my life and I would have had to worry about money that I didn't (yet) have and possibly would never have gotten because the casino would have interfered somehow. They don't have such payout limits and no settings for turnover and betting limits for nothing.
The moral of the story:
I should never have started playing. And I wish you continued success if gambling is a big part of your life. Either when you hit it big or when you stop.
yes where should i start, as a long-time gamer with a lot of experience, i have met many other gamblers who were extremely addicted to gaming or just gamblers who enjoy it.... so really many people including many stories from the forum read....
but in my opinion, what you've just said is the stupidest thing i've ever heard, boy, how f**ked up can you be with your life if you have debts, have the opportunity to pay everything off and still make a huge profit?
but no, because the casino only pays out 500 a day, and other payouts outside the bank are too complicated, just go and deliberately turn down 170k€, you have to let that melt in your mouth
so i don't necessarily assume that it was by accident (gambling addiction), but was fully intentional, you shouldn't just block yourself at the casinos, it's best to have your internet blocked right away
in the end I don't have the words here......
as many have already said there would have been many possibilities, Jeton, crypto ect....
and even if only 500 are transferred per day, and even if you might have played the rest on the 30th day, you would still have received 15k......
so with a summer like that, bank ect. wouldn't matter, i would make sure i get it on a wallet somehow, even if you get a fine in the end, i don't know how it is for you, but for me it would be a few years' salary....
How some people here act sensitive and empathetic, along the lines of: Oh you poor thing, money isn't everything, learn something from it, now you're free of the burden and one experience richer blah blah blah
You can only grab your head ...
170K was thrown into the trash just like that, but of course with *Money isn't everything* you can also shop in the supermarket and pay off your debts, try it and please tell us 🤑
Anyone who gives something like this away has absolutely no feeling for money. Of course, it's much cooler to live in debt. For many people in Germany, €500 is a lot of money and you don't have the patience to have it paid out?token account and go for it. Even if you had gambled all the money away again, you could have saved the money you deposited. What a story here again. So much ingenuity. I definitely need some therapy
SixtyNine69 wrote on 30.03.2025 at 12:07: How some people here are so sensitive and empathetic: Oh you poor thing, money isn't everything, learn something from it, now you're free of the burden and one experience richer blah blah blah
You can only grab your head ...
170K were thrown into the trash just like that, but of course with *Money isn't everything* you can also shop in the supermarket and pay off your debts, try it and please tell us 🤑
Try to stay cool when you have 50k+ in your player account and you can only withdraw 500€ a day and 7k a month. Mind you, this is to a casino that has already been reported to have withdrawal problems.
The payout at 7k/month would have taken over 2 years, and that with a smooth process. You can't be happy, regardless of whether you have €10,000 or €200,000 in your account. On the one hand, you see the money little by little and on the other hand, you have to go through the casino's harassment for 2 years. Among other things, the payout limit is lowered simply because you don't play. If you want to increase it to €7000/month again, you have to level up your VIP lvl by wagering (real money, of course). He has already explained to me that he is still not a VIP and that he has certainly wagered several hundred thousand euros.
He was a little arrogant, no question. With a little more patience, he could have gotten more, but he would never have gotten the full amount. That's why he didn't burn 170k.
Try to stay cool when you have 50k+ in your player account and you can only withdraw 500€ daily and 7k a month. Mind you, this is to a casino that has already been reported to have withdrawal problems.
The payout at 7k/month would have taken over 2 years, and that with a smooth process. You can't be happy, regardless of whether you have €10,000 or €200,000 in your account. On the one hand, you see the money little by little and on the other hand, you have to go through the casino's harassment for 2 years. Among other things, the payout limit is lowered simply because you don't play. If you want to increase it again to €7000/month, you have to level up your VIP lvl by wagering (real money, of course). He has already explained to me that he is still not a VIP and that he has certainly wagered several hundred thousand euros.
He was a little arrogant, no question. With a little more patience, he could have gotten more, but he would never have gotten the full amount. That's why he didn't burn 170k.
I'm cool, you better make sure you don't take everything personally and answer like a novel every time 😁
Fair enough, that's your opinion, but I'm sticking to my opinion anyway 😊
It's also funny that you want to have "peace and quiet" and are happy that everything is gone. But at the same time you have debts, can't take out a loan, can't go into the red and everything that comes into your account above the seizure limit is gone. That certainly gives you more "peace of mind" than paying out your credit every day or every week. The story here should be made into a movie
Try to stay cool when you have 50k+ in your player account and you can only withdraw 500€ daily and 7k a month. Mind you, this is to a casino that has already been reported to have withdrawal problems.
The payout at 7k/month would have taken over 2 years, and that with a smooth process. You can't be happy, regardless of whether you have €10,000 or €200,000 in your account. On the one hand, you see the money little by little and on the other hand, you have to go through the casino's harassment for 2 years. Among other things, the payout limit is lowered simply because you don't play. If you want to increase it again to €7000/month, you have to level up your VIP lvl by wagering (real money, of course). He has already explained to me that he is still not a VIP and that he has certainly wagered several hundred thousand euros.
He was a little arrogant, no question. With a little more patience he could have gotten more, but he would never have gotten the full amount. That's why he didn't burn 170k.
If you can't be happy about paying out 7k a month, you're out of your depth and at the same time extremely addicted
SixtyNine69 wrote on 03/30/2025 12:33 PM:
I'm cool, you better make sure you don't take everything personally and answer like a novel every time 😁
Fair enough, that's your opinion, but I'll stick to my opinion anyway 😊
Don't worry, I'm not taking it personally.
Your opinion - all good, I respect it, but please take into consideration that the casino is bad. We're not talking about Stake/BC Games or even Winz, where you can cash out such amounts with little headache. That changes the situation considerably. Try going along with the bullshit for 2 years (if things go well). Then see if you can remain as steadfast as you claim.
Donnie wrote on March 30th, 2025 at 12:43 pm:
Anyone who can't be happy about paying out 7k a month doesn't have it all and is extremely addicted at the same time
I don't deny that. You could have paid out to the further limit, but the guy barely had any rest the last few days. He was full of adrenaline and was also exhausted. That was certainly one of the reasons why he was so arrogant and at some point had no nerve left. There are supposed to be people who panic under pressure/anxiety.
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I feel more like a burden has been lifted. The casino would have requested safe documents at some point and with the support (I've emailed them three times and got a reply once) it would have been a lot of stress. Apart from the illegality of the whole thing.
I can well understand that some of you would have acted differently. But of course you can easily say that if you weren't in the situation.
For me, the main issue was that the time to pay out was simply too long and it's not even said that the casino would have paid out permanently. Without a license, they can simply block my account from one day to the next with a flimsy justification.
I have already contacted an addiction counseling center by e-mail and will make an appointment there soon as soon as I get an answer.
The way I see it: I didn't actually gamble away any of my property, but an amount that was there. Yes, the amount would have helped me to pay off my debts. But if I had paid the money into my account to pay my debts, the bank would have safely asked where it came from and then there would have been problems.
If I could have paid it out to my crypto wallet in one lump sum, I would have done it safely. Then the amount would have been on my wallet and I wouldn't have been able to do anything with it.
I wouldn't have been able to think about anything else, which would have ruined my life and I would have had to worry about money that I didn't (yet) have and possibly would never have gotten because the casino would have interfered somehow. They don't have such payout limits and no settings for turnover and betting limits for nothing.
The moral of the story:
I should never have started playing. And I wish you continued success if gambling is a big part of your life. Either when you hit it big or when you stop.
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Of course, the debts would be gone, etc., etc., but perhaps there would have been bad repercussions from the authorities' point of view.
The problem is Gambling addiction and dealing with money while gambling, most people are normal earners and such sums in one go in combination with a gambling addiction are in fact an excessive demand, which usually takes a lot of time to process.
So by the time you are "clear" about your high, you have basically already lost again.
But as I said, you also have to learn to deal with it.
Money is definitely not the most important thing in life and as an outsider you can now make a lot of accusations as to why and why not!
On the other hand, you can also say that if he had never played, it would never have come to such a sum, meaning it would have been a day like any other, perhaps without debts and with a few more euros in the account, but the process would have been identical.
In any case, I wish you all the best for the future and that the positives will overshadow the negatives.
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A little more sensitivity would be appropriate here. You can always express your opinion, of course, but why do you have to be malicious? The very last thing this guy needs is malice.
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That's 340 days until the money is there. And then for someone who is addicted to gambling and has the jitters.
I think I would go crazy.
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yes where should i start, as a long-time gamer with a lot of experience, i have met many other gamblers who were extremely addicted to gaming or just gamblers who enjoy it.... so really many people including many stories from the forum read....
but in my opinion, what you've just said is the stupidest thing i've ever heard, boy, how f**ked up can you be with your life if you have debts, have the opportunity to pay everything off and still make a huge profit?
but no, because the casino only pays out 500 a day, and other payouts outside the bank are too complicated, just go and deliberately turn down 170k€, you have to let that melt in your mouth
so i don't necessarily assume that it was by accident (gambling addiction), but was fully intentional, you shouldn't just block yourself at the casinos, it's best to have your internet blocked right away
in the end I don't have the words here......
as many have already said there would have been many possibilities, Jeton, crypto ect....
and even if only 500 are transferred per day, and even if you might have played the rest on the 30th day, you would still have received 15k......
so with a summer like that, bank ect. wouldn't matter, i would make sure i get it on a wallet somehow, even if you get a fine in the end, i don't know how it is for you, but for me it would be a few years' salary....
so it's crazy what you've just done
as a clever person once said:
" Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, but I'm not quite sure about the universe yet. "
- Albert Einstein
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You can only grab your head ...
170K was thrown into the trash just like that, but of course with *Money isn't everything* you can also shop in the supermarket and pay off your debts, try it and please tell us 🤑
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Try to stay cool when you have 50k+ in your player account and you can only withdraw 500€ a day and 7k a month. Mind you, this is to a casino that has already been reported to have withdrawal problems.
The payout at 7k/month would have taken over 2 years, and that with a smooth process. You can't be happy, regardless of whether you have €10,000 or €200,000 in your account. On the one hand, you see the money little by little and on the other hand, you have to go through the casino's harassment for 2 years. Among other things, the payout limit is lowered simply because you don't play. If you want to increase it to €7000/month again, you have to level up your VIP lvl by wagering (real money, of course). He has already explained to me that he is still not a VIP and that he has certainly wagered several hundred thousand euros.
He was a little arrogant, no question. With a little more patience, he could have gotten more, but he would never have gotten the full amount. That's why he didn't burn 170k.
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I'm cool, you better make sure you don't take everything personally and answer like a novel every time 😁
Fair enough, that's your opinion, but I'm sticking to my opinion anyway 😊
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If you can't be happy about paying out 7k a month, you're out of your depth and at the same time extremely addicted
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Don't worry, I'm not taking it personally.
Your opinion - all good, I respect it, but please take into consideration that the casino is bad. We're not talking about Stake/BC Games or even Winz, where you can cash out such amounts with little headache. That changes the situation considerably. Try going along with the bullshit for 2 years (if things go well). Then see if you can remain as steadfast as you claim.
I don't deny that. You could have paid out to the further limit, but the guy barely had any rest the last few days. He was full of adrenaline and was also exhausted. That was certainly one of the reasons why he was so arrogant and at some point had no nerve left. There are supposed to be people who panic under pressure/anxiety.
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