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Online Casinos in general: No more German licenses for online casinos

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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 08:07 am CET#1
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eierlothar
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 08:31 am CET#2
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Shut down the stores so that this also becomes illegal

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Christoph
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 08:34 am CET#3
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Interesting, but what about an administrative act solution as applied to online sports betting operators? A press release in May 2018 stated on the subject of sports betting:

In the interest of the continued existence of such a regulated sports betting market, the Ministry of the Interior, Rural Areas and Integration, as the supreme gambling supervisory authority, has decided to offer any interested Provider based in a member state of the European un ion or a state party to the Agreement on the European Economic Area the option of a formal transitional arrangement based on Section 9 (1) sentences 2 and 3 GlüStV for

  1. the organization and brokerage of sports betting by remote sales to players residing in Schleswig-Holstein and

  2. the organization and brokerage of sports betting in stationary sales via betting sales outlets in Schleswig-Holstein


until a license or permit under German law has been granted or refused.


The link to the press release: https://www.schleswig-holstein.de/DE/Fachinhalte/G/gluecksspiel/uebergangsregelung.html

Unfortunately, I can't find any corresponding regulation for online casinos. Maybe it does not exist. But maybe it was just not mentioned in the form of a press release. But it would be strange if you have such a solution for sports betting and not for Online Casinos

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Tolga
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 08:53 am CET#4
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i also feel that the machines on the internet german pieler only rip the accounts

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Stromberg
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 09:12 am CET#5
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https://www.sponsors.de/news/magazin/die-rechtslage-der-gluecksspielbranche-deutschland

The last paragraph says something about such a solution as mentioned by Christoph. Whether the page is right, I do not know

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Strolch
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 09:44 am CET#6
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A proper regulation is overdue, best with Player protection: a player card per person for all licensed casinos, with which you can Deposit as a player in DE.
With this, one also determines in advance how much money can be gambled, which is then valid for at least one month, or even longer. No changes possible.
A personalized player card would also simplify the tiresome Verification issue.

The casinos that offer other deposit options may not be used and all financial service providers are required by law to block deposits and withdrawals.
There will always be some loopholes, e.g. via cryptocurrencies and the like, but whoever gets carried away......

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Ichbins2018
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 11:54 am CET#7
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Strolch wrote on 05.02.2019 at 09:44: A clever regulation is overdue, best with Player protection: a player card per person for all licensed casinos, with which one may Deposit as a player in DE.
One also specifies with this in advance how much money can be gambled, which is then valid for at least one month, or even longer. No changes possible.
A personalized player card would also simplify the tiresome Verification issue.

The casinos that offer other deposit options may not be used and all financial service providers are required by law to block deposits and withdrawals.
There will always be some loopholes, e.g. via cryptocurrencies and the like, but whoever gets carried away......


In principle, you are right @Strolch, but there is a catch,

Player protection has never worked offline and will never work online.
If it would work, then you could close the halls and shut down the servers online

It is just targeted at a very specific species - however, these are not necessarily those who can play responsibly
(They would drive every store into ruin)
It's the others - and exactly these allow e.g. Gauselmann and allies a life of luxury.

So as you may realize, player protection exists and existed only on paper - and will always remain so - and as far as that is concerned, one should not give oneself false hope

Conclusion: whether legal or illegal...does not matter at all

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Knochen
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 11:58 am CET#8
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 02/05/2019 at 11:54 AM
In principle you are right @Strolch, however there is a catch,

Player protection has never worked offline and likewise will never work online.
If it would work, then you could close the halls and shut down the servers online

It is just targeted at a very specific species - however, these are not necessarily those who can play responsibly
(They would drive every store into ruin)
It's the others - and exactly these allow e.g. Gauselmann and allies a life of luxury.

So as you may realize, Player protection exists and existed only on paper - and will always remain so - and as far as that is concerned, one should not give oneself false hope.

You have to give Mr. Gauselmann credit for the fact that he is active as an operator of Slot machines in almost every city in Germany and that his brand is very well known and successful

Clearly gambling halls and casinos live from gambling addicts. Only casual and fun players make up, depending on the location, perhaps 2% of the turnover of an arcade. The operators know that, and so do the staff, but I think the politicians see things a bit differently. There is no central lock for arcades and machines in the gastronomy, really feasible would be only if each player had its own player card, which the machine must read to unlock. Online, the whole thing is already "somewhat" easier. A central blocking file for European casinos and a block of all other casinos would be an option

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Ichbins2018
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No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 01:03 pm CET#9
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You are of course right...

However, Player protection e.g. "self-blocking" and everything else that is technically possible is not wanted

Quite clearly also in the policy to recognize, as an example of the minimum distance of gambling halls, here really have the very few communities interested in the even seriously implement.
Do it of course also not - and with us also still nothing did.
No hall was closed because of minimum distance and also what concerns the concessions (one should only be allowed in a certain radius) also here nothing has changed.
(Where four were are still 4 (so 48 machines) ...where three were still three etc.

What does this tell us? Player protection VS amusement tax ... the win is certain, the budget revenue, i.e. amusement tax, is a firmly planned budget - and this will not be taken away so quickly

Offline as said...here probably possibilities are sounded out at present around the whole in such a way to arrange as offline
Finally and fact is, our state go there billions by the rags...illegally etc. has not really fructified.

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Knochen
Elite

No more German licenses for online casinos

5th Feb. 2019, at 01:08 pm CET#10
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The problem is that it doesn't really pay off in terms of tax revenue. The amount of taxpayers' money that has to be spent on therapy, bankruptcies, court cases and even prison sentences is not exactly low either. The government has to constantly weigh the pros and cons

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