Privacy settings

We use a number of cookies on our website. Some are essential, while others help us improve our portal for you.

Privacy settings

Here is an overview of all the cookies we use. You can choose to accept whole categories or view more information and select only certain cookies.

Essential (6)

Essential cookies enable basic functions and are necessary for the website to function properly.

Statistics (3)

Statistics cookies collect information anonymously. This information helps us to understand how our visitors use our website.
If the statistics cookies are subsequently deselected, they will remain on the computer until the expiry date. However, they are neither updated nor evaluated.

Online Casinos in general: New programming Pracmatic slots (Page 2)

Topic created on 14th Feb. 2022 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 33 | Views: 8,324
Chiyo
Rookie

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 02:23 am CET#12
3 Likes
Even if it comes up again and again and you think the subjective impression would be weighted higher than the factual. The casinos and even more the manufacturers of the games have no need to adjust or "pretend" or change anything. Chance knows no memory. Even if you have 2 Scatters over and over again in 1000 spins and no 3rd comes, it does not mean that it then becomes more likely that you will then get a scatter. That slots "run" is also coincidence. Here probably rather the Monte Carlo effect strikes. To make a statistical statement, you would have to make millions of spins on a slot and even then you also tend to lose at RTP of 96%, 4%. The more you play, the more you win and the more you lose. What you see with the Youtube "heroes" are usually also compilations and even if it's live - the casino has no magic button for "manipulations" - they just don't need it and that the business is growing and flourishing can be seen by the fact that the sweepstakes industry is making more and more wins. Different RPT are created by different symbol image combinations - this is pure mathematics and not witchcraft

Who wants to see how someone else loses? This doesn't bring clicks, nor good promo - but a Streamer who streams and uploads videos several times a week won't win consistently either - that doesn't exist

You can program a simple slot yourself (for this you don't need pictures, which only stand for numbers/values anyway) and then run a few million runs. There are also reasonable videos and that is quickly programmed in Python or .NET (or whatever you like as a programmer).

If someone here would open an online casino and had the necessary capital - you would hardly make losses - it is probably always worthwhile for the casino - how else should the business model work? Why is there probably no casino / online casino, which had to close because of too many wins. Online Casinos and gambling houses choose from a portfolio of game manufacturers and possibly which RTP combination they want - this should be understood more like a preset

This post has been translated automatically

t****o

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 03:09 am CET#13
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far

Chiyo wrote on 15.02.2022 at 02:23: Even if it always comes up and you think the subjective impression would be weighted higher than the factual. The casinos and even more the manufacturers of the games have no need to adjust or "pretend" or change anything. Chance knows no memory. Even if you have 2 Scatters over and over again in 1000 spins and no 3rd comes, it does not mean that it then becomes more likely that you will then get a scatter. That slots "run" is also coincidence. Here probably rather the Monte Carlo effect strikes. To make a statistical statement, you would have to make millions of spins on a slot and even then you also tend to lose at RTP of 96%, 4%. The more you play, the more you win and the more you lose. What you see with the Youtube "heroes" are usually also compilations and even if it's live - the casino has no magic button for "manipulations" - they just don't need it and that the business is growing and flourishing can be seen by the fact that the sweepstakes industry is making more and more wins. Different RPT are created by different symbol image combinations - this is pure mathematics and not witchcraft

Who wants to see how someone else loses? This doesn't bring clicks, nor good promo - but a Streamer who streams and uploads videos several times a week won't win consistently either - that doesn't exist

You can program a simple slot yourself (for this you don't need pictures, which only stand for numbers/values anyway) and then run a few million runs. There are also reasonable videos and that is quickly programmed in Python or .NET (or whatever you like as a programmer).

If someone here would open an online casino and had the necessary capital - you would hardly make losses - it is probably always worthwhile for the casino - how else should the business model work? Why is there probably no casino / online casino, which had to close because of too many wins. Online Casinos and gambling houses choose from a portfolio of game manufacturers and possibly which RTP combination they want - this should be understood more like a preset.

No one has to change or screw anything. Only the packs are getting smaller for

the same price. Your thinking is already extremely naive. It makes a difference if I earn 500.000€,
or 5 million. And how easy it is to live eternally far away from Germany with a letter box company or an
Office that is never occupied

And of course statistics are collected. They know exactly how many spins I have made with which bet on which slot
Slot I have made. How much I have deposited, and from when I pay out. Whether I have delays
worthwhile, because I gamble away everything again etc etc. They know everything about me

According to your judgment, life experience should not exist in principle. Everything only imagination.
Don't talk garbage. 30 years gambling, but I imagine everything, or what?
2 years at gambling, 2 books read, and knows!

This post has been translated automatically

Anonym

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 10:41 am CET#15
2 Likes

Liked this post: Avatar von Chiyo Chiyo, Avatar von roccoammo11 roccoammo11
Min young, go to my winning pictures and you will see that I got 3x a 5000x wins at pragmatic. But shall I tell you something? This is nothing like what I lost before/am losing now. Playing slots will drain you 10000000% no matter how many max wins you get
Those max wins have cost me hundreds of free play purchases because I'm dumb as an eumel

This post has been translated automatically

Chiyo
Rookie

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 11:30 am CET#16
2 Likes

Liked this post: Avatar von DieWunderharke5000 DieWunderharke5000, Avatar von Jubla2014 Jubla2014
No one needs to change or screw over anything. Only the packages are getting smaller for the same price. Your thinking is already extremely naive. It makes a difference if I earn 500.000€ or 5 million. And how easy it is to be eternally far away from Germany with a letterbox company or an office that is never occupied.

The comparison with the package is very lame - what is that supposed to mean? That has no reference at all

And of course statistics are collected. They know exactly how many spins I have made with which bet on which slot. How much I have deposited, and from when I pay out. Whether delays are worthwhile with me, because I gamble away everything again etc etc.. They know everything about me

Haven't claimed anything else either - statistics are collected everywhere. But is it so hard to understand that the casinos simply do not need it? That's just bullshit, and yes life experience does not replace reality, even if you do not like it. Programming a SLOT is not difficult, do it yourself - and then look and tell me again. This is more than nonsense - do you have proof for it, except your life experience, which has no factual validity. As if we programmers would merge everything in the background and control everyone via a superhuman artificial intelligence. WHY?! That lacks nevertheless any logic. Most casinos (online) are construction kit websites where the games are clicked together - there is no magic behind it and why not? Because it is not worthwhile or necessary. Addicts are simply good enough to earn money


According to your judgment, life experience should not exist in principle. Everything only imagination.
Don't talk garbage. 30 years gambling, but I imagine everything, or what?
2 years of gaming, 2 books read, and I know!

Tell you but no garbage and if you 100 years zocken, your judgment is not more objective, if it is not based on objective standards. That you've been gambling for 30 years tells me only one thing, but I don't want to elaborate on that here. And judging how long you've been gaming based on Gamblejoe "affiliation" I also find pretty sad. Registration date != playing time

I didn't get personal before, why are you going to instead of responding to my arguments adequately for once

Edit by Caro: font color in the quotes adjusted

This post has been translated automatically

LittleFu
Amateur

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 12:59 pm CET#17
1 Like

Liked this post: t****o
So to calm down the topic a bit.
Quite conceivable that a Provider knows who you are.
And also quite conceivable that a provider stores your Win/Loss so RTP
stores, maybe not forever, but for a while.
If necessary, wins / losses are then given accordingly.

Many casinos have different RTP information for a slot, which would
would contradict a "World Server" for a slot.

Just look at NetEnt, what they can do everything:
https://www.netent.com/en/back-office/

The IP is also a thing.
If you keep going back to the same game on the same day,
even if it does not run well, it does not get better.
For others the slot is going great. I can understand certain thoughts
understand.


This post has been translated automatically

Anonym

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 01:19 pm CET#18
2 Likes

Liked this post: t****o, Avatar von TWiSTeD TWiSTeD
RTP or not. The system runs in a way we will never be able to understand.
I bought 44 gates of olympus free spins yesterday. 42 were always 10-30x
2 were 400x

44*20 euro per bonus buy = 880€
42 * average 20x( 4 euro ) = 168
2 * 400x = 160

Total minus 552€
On 20 cent bonus buys
RTP? What that even

At 2 euro that would be 5520€
So without crap, who plays in the long run on higher stakes...just loses so violently much

This post has been translated automatically

t****o

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 03:17 pm CET#19
2 Likes

Liked this post: Avatar von CashOut CashOut, Avatar von Useless4yu Useless4yu

Chiyo wrote on 02/15/2022 at 11:30 AM
Don't you talk garbage and if you've been gambling for 100 years, your judgement won't become more objective if it's not based on objective standards. That you've been gambling for 30 years tells me only one thing, but I won't elaborate here. And judging how long you've been gaming based on Gamblejoe "affiliation" I also find pretty sad. Registration date != playing time

I didn't get personal before, why are you going to instead of responding to my arguments adequately for once

Edit by Caro: font color in the quotes adjusted

How am I supposed to have a serious conversation with someone when, as always, the argument comes that casinos don't even exist?

need it at all. This stupid argument doesn't work with any company in the world. Look at all the scams of the biggest companies
Companies. Price fixing, Manipulation, fraud, presiabarrangements.... Certainly, because Mercedes, VW and Co. have it bitterly necessary.
So with such arguments it knocks me out of my shoes.

If I would go after registration, I would gamble just a few weeks. This objection is also strange.

And of course, as my life experience grows, I can judge how it used to be. It's not for nothing that you don't get
you don't get on the supervisory board

And you of all people will know what is programmed into machines and what is not
What people.

Program some more Googleplays.

This post has been translated automatically

CashOut
Experienced

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 03:58 pm CET#20
2 Likes

Liked this post: Avatar von Donnie Donnie, Avatar von Useless4yu Useless4yu
BenOssi123 wrote on 02/15/2022 at 01:59 PM
How this works exactly, no idea. Probably only the programmers know. I'm simply interested in the number of Scatter runs. Can not be that the 30th / 40th / sometimes 50th time the third scatter simply does not fall.

And our sponsored heroes on YouTube who meanwhile spin on 300-1000€ per spin, get free spins on such sums after 20 spins. There is something wrong.

Wake up but finally, these are test accounts to attract players. Who really believes the streamers would play me real money, who has really lost control of his life

This post has been translated automatically

BenOssi123
Rookie

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 07:29 pm CET#21
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
CashOut wrote on 15.02.2022 at 15:58
Wake up, these are test accounts to attract players. Who really believes the streamers would play me real money, he has really lost control over his life.

Well, of course it's fake. These gigantic stakes have not been around that long. Even a multimillionaire could not afford these spins in the long run. Next time I make the smiley behind.

This post has been translated automatically

BenOssi123
Rookie

New programming Pracmatic slots

15th Feb. 2022, at 07:35 pm CET#22
0 Likes

Nobody has liked this post so far
alpsko wrote on 02/15/2022 at 1:19 pm: RTP or not. The system runs in a way we will never be able to comprehend.
I bought 44 gates of olympus free spins yesterday. 42 were always 10-30x
2 were 400x

44*20 euro per bonus buy = 880€
42 * average 20x( 4 euro ) = 168
2 * 400x = 160

Total minus 552€
On 20 cent bonus buys
RTP? What that even

At 2 euro that would be 5520€
So without crap, who plays permanently on higher stakes...just loses so violently much


But it is so that each Provider saves all the spins of me. That means that after a BigHit, I will be pulled down again to get you 96%RtP or not? And it must come at least halfway with all players so, because would players only lose, they pay sometime no longer and lose interest. And that is not in the sense of the business model.

The question is whether providers act across casinos and my Pracmatic data from all casinos are stored at those and the slots then also give accordingly, or whether that is evaluated differently per casino.

That konnt me to date, no one can say exactly.

This post has been translated automatically

Hot Topics22nd Dec. 2024 at 06:10 pm CET

Gossip
0
Offline Casinos
0
Offline Casinos
0

GambleJoe Team

Profile picture of JulianJulian
Community-Manager / Complaint SpecialistProfile picture of CounterCounter
Software developerProfile picture of MatthiasMatthias
Project manager
Profile picture of DanielDaniel
Founder

Community Forum-Moderators

Members who assist the GJ team in moderating the forum.
Profile picture of AndreAndre
Profile picture of gamble1gamble1
Profile picture of Langhans_innenLanghans_innen
Profile picture of SaphiraSaphira
GambleJoe is aimed exclusively at user whose allowed to play legally with his current location in online casinos and does not violate the current law.
It is the responsibility of the user to inform himself about the current legal situation. Gambling is prohibited for children and adolescents under the age of 18.
GambleJoe is a registered trademark with the EUIPO of GJ International Ltd.
© 2012-2024 GambleJoe.com
✕

Forgotten your password?

Create a new password here

  • 1. Fill in the 3 fields carefully and click on the green button
  • 2. Check your email inbox for a message from GambleJoe
  • 3. Click on the confirmation link in the email and your new password will be active immediately