Online Casinos in general: my story with a huge win of 450,000 euros and the misfortune that followed (Page 7)

mtorero wrote on 20.01.2024 at 19:51:

That's your opinion and that's ok. I was just commenting here on how I see it from my perspective, and recalling that old Southpark episode that was critical of the sudden hype around addictions.


I don't deny that there are people with addiction problems and some are better at dealing with it than others.
But for me, it's just not a disease you can get.

If someone destroys their life through addiction and drags family members into it, for example, they are weak in my eyes.

If someone runs amok into a school and shoots x number of children, I think he is weak and more... but not mentally ill.

If a pedophile abuses children, it's not his fault because he's a sex addict and sick and can't control himself?

You can't justify and excuse every mistake people make as an illness, but I repeat myself, this is just my opinion and I don't want to force it on anyone.

I love gaming because I enjoy it and I will never stop but I couldn't if my wife or child had to suffer. There were times when I was younger and weak and played too much, but I wasn't sick because of it.

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Peter8 wrote on 21.01.2024 at 11:55: It doesn't matter, you two don't have to convince anyone
Every opinion has its right to exist
So have a nice Sunday

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frapi07 wrote on January 21st, 2024 at 11:02 am:
I really thought long and hard about whether I should leave it uncommented. Some of the statements are really out of line. How can you not consider a spree killer to be mentally ill? How can you not see pedophiles as sick? Such people are in a state that does not correspond to normality. I can't tell you what it feels like, but look at how sick some people who run amok are. They no longer have any sense.

I think I know what you mean by mentally ill. I assume you mean people who have a mental disability, right?

Mental illness and mental disability are two completely different aspects that denote different medical conditions. "Mental illness" or mental disorder can be defined as a medical condition that temporarily restricts thinking, mood, emotions and many other things.
Mental disabilities refer to intellectual functions that are severely underdeveloped and therefore severely impair social adaptation.

A mental disorder is therefore about emotions (depression), among other things, but also about cognitive distortions (addiction, among other things). No matter what type of mental disorder, it affects your health, ergo it is an illness. But please don't ask me for more details, I didn't study psychology and didn't have it as a subject at school.

Now back to your examples: if a person has an emotional disorder, then they are also temporarily ill. Someone who has the desire to kill is sick! Having such an emotion is not normal and is not considered healthy. You are welcome to disagree. I've explained it to you as objectively and nicely as I can, and believe me, I found it really difficult to keep my composure in some sentences.

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mtorero wrote on 21.01.2024 at 12:52:
How does a mental disorder affect my health?

Does it cause physical discomfort?
A majority of people will have some sort of mental disorder, no one is perfect.
Not every person who develops a desire to kill goes out and murders, otherwise we would have tens of thousands of mass murders every day.
But there is a small proportion who then act on their desire to kill, and I think it's wrong to call this an illness and excuse it.

An example: the stabber in Würzburg who killed three women and injured others is now in a psychiatric ward and will never see the inside of a prison, unlike GEZ payment refusers.
Could you tell the relatives of those killed to their faces that the perpetrator is innocent because he is ill?

Homosexuality, for example, is also a mental disorder, so would you say that all gays/lesbians are sick?

If every little mental disorder means you are sick then we are all sick and the devil is rubbing his hands.

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mtorero wrote on 21.01.2024 at 12:52: Homosexuality, for example, is also a mental disorder, would you therefore say that all gays/lesbians are sick?

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Dutch78 wrote on January 21st, 2024 at 2:40 pm:

Since when is homosexuality a mental disorder? Is that just your opinion, or are there substantiated reports and research from reputable sources that you are referring to?

You're stigmatizing and discriminating against gays, that's the only thing that can lead to mental disorders in them.

The whole LGBTQ is completely compatible with a normal and, from your point of view, healthy life.

There is nothing abnormal here, but rather facets of human sexuality.

I completely understand if you say it's not for me, but who or what allows you to declare the sexuality of others as a mental disorder just because it deviates from your "normality"?

As long as everything is within the law, everyone should be allowed to do what they want, which includes loving whoever they want.

I think it's a shame that you feel this way, but you too can have a rethink about this.

I always think it's good when people think outside the box, inform themselves outside the mainstream in order to form an opinion, thinking "differently" has had a significant influence on humanity, but that's another topic.

I just want to understand the basis on which you came to the conclusion that homosexuality is a mental disorder.

If I had to guess, I would assume the 1960s as the basis for forming this opinion, as alcoholism was not yet considered an illness.

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frapi07 wrote on 21.01.2024 at 13:55:

It limits your sanity. If you're talking about Würzburg: the guy won't get out either. He's mentally ill, I'll stick to that. No sane person would do something like that. Just like this guy who comes from Herne and murdered a child + a man. They are psychopaths. Psychopaths are sick people.

No, homosexuality is not a mental disorder/disease. Even the WHO no longer recognizes it as an illness since 1990. It is a sexual orientation.

Not everything is a mental disorder, we clearly agree on that. But something like depression, which I have suffered from myself, or other "conditions" are dangerous to a person's health. Depression can lead to you neglecting or hurting yourself. Consequence: you can die from it. Gambling addiction can destroy you internally, and we're not talking about the financial aspect here. There are gamblers who relapse again and again. Do they do it on purpose? I don't know, but some probably don't. If you've had experience with alcoholics, you'll know how difficult withdrawal can be for some. If you take a beer away from me, I'll just drink water and not cause myself any problems. But if you take the beer away from the alcoholic, you're basically taking the air out of him.

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needle34 wrote on 21.01.2024 at 17:58: Some people are drifting completely off topic here. 😜

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Peter8 wrote on 21.01.2024 at 22:36:

Always the same ^^

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imsoql wrote on January 22nd, 2024 at 3:31 pm:

sry but whoever does not manage to become independent with half a million or does not see this as a life changer is either already very wealthy and has not yet had problems such as "how do i pay my rent" or is simply stupid

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