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Online Casinos in general: my story with a huge win of 450,000 euros and the misfortune that followed (Page 4)

Topic created on 17th Jan. 2024 | Page: 4 of 10 | Answers: 137 | Views: 12,364
Dutch78
Expert

Stromberg wrote on 19.01.2024 at 09:28:

But maybe Rainmann is already a proud 95 years old and has taken the 50% rule as a basis... 🤷😄

I've heard that Rainmann and Superman have never been seen in the same room together.

Coincidence?
Could be, but it got me thinking.

Maybe Rainmann doesn't need to worry about his pension at all.

But now it gets mysterious, because he gives the hidden clue himself.
There is a band called Reamonn. Now notice the resemblance. Reamonn-Rainmann.
The pronunciation is just as similar, by the way, the more you try it, the more similar it sounds.

The group's most famous song was ?
Supergirl, of course.
Being modest, he naturally didn't want to refer to himself directly, but what could be more obvious than Supergirl?

And with this theory I wish you, dear Stromberg, a nice weekend

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Stromberg
Legend

Dutch78 wrote on 19.01.2024 at 12:00:

It has come to my attention that Rainmann and Superman have never been seen in the same room together.

Coincidence?
Could be, but it got me thinking.

Maybe Rainmann doesn't need to worry about his pension at all.

But now it gets mysterious, because he gives the hidden clue himself.
There is a band called Reamonn. Now notice the resemblance. Reamonn-Rainmann.
The pronunciation is just as similar, by the way, the more you try it, the more similar it sounds.

The group's most famous song was ?
Supergirl, of course.
Being modest, he naturally didn't want to refer to himself directly, but what could be more obvious than Supergirl?

And with this theory I wish you, dear Stromberg, a nice weekend


The longer I say Reamonn to myself, the more I think you're right... 😅


Have a great weekend too.
Oh come on, what's with the stinginess, y'all. 😄🍻

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Stromberg
Legend

frapi07 wrote on January 19, 2024 at 10:59 am:

You do realize that your proposal is much more strenuous than a 9 to 5 job, right? Even if you're not in gastronomy, you won't have it any easier than a normal job. Anyone who has been self-employed knows what I'm talking about. You also have higher costs as a self-employed person. Health Insurance, taxes... In Germany, self-employment is not worthwhile at all unless you can build up an SME where you make several million in sales every year. It takes time and nowadays €450,000 is not enough anyway. Look at how many start-ups fail and how many can establish themselves.

Half a million was good money 40 years ago. Nowadays it's not even enough to buy a house.

Where does this 9 to 5 actually come from?

What kind of lazy b*****d starts work at 9? I always thought that was reserved for lawyers and other snobs... 😉
And then only 8 hours, minus a break that's only 7.25 hours a day and a 36.25 hour week... That's how others would like to go on vacation....
I find the term somehow inappropriate... 😄

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Dutch78
Expert
Stromberg wrote on 19.01.2024 at 12:06: The longer I say Reamonn to myself, the more I think you're right... 😅

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way

Well, that's enough OT now.

P.S. 9 to 5 originally comes from the USA and actually only refers to office jobs there, where the working hours were/are set at 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. in almost every company.

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mtorero
Amateur

Stromberg wrote on 18.01.2024 at 08:59:
I would agree that in gambling the transition between pathological addiction and indiscipline/greed etc. is rather fluid and that addiction is called out too often.

To deny that alcoholism, drug addiction etc. are pathological is, to put it mildly, very silly.
Despite all the justified social criticism in South Park, I don't think it should be seen as a medical educational film.

That's just my opinion. For me, these are not illnesses but simply human weaknesses. Of course, these "diseases" are a trillion-dollar business for the medical industry, among others, and therefore out of the question.

But I don't believe in man-made climate change either, so you don't need to take me seriously 😉

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Lionking
Top Member

mtorero wrote on 19.01.2024 at 13:59:

That's just my opinion. For me, these are not diseases but simply human weaknesses. Of course, these "diseases" are a trillion-dollar business for the medical industry, among others, and therefore indisputable.

But I don't believe in man-made climate change either, so you don't need to take me seriously 😉

No one does either, so "take you seriously"

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Stromberg
Legend

Dutch78 wrote on January 19, 2024 at 12:23 pm:
I'm glad that I'm not alone in this

Well, that's enough OT now.

P.S. 9 to 5 originally comes from the USA and actually only refers to office jobs there, the working hours there were/are set at 9.00 am to 5.00 pm in almost every company.

Thanks for the explanation...

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imsoql
Rookie
thank you first of all for not saying that I made it up.
Somewhere someone has written how I paid it out and where.

i applied for a payout of 9500 euros every 3-5 days and it went into my bank account without any problems.
Neither the bank nor any other authority ever asked where the money came from. but the casino also offered sports betting at the time and that would have been my excuse if anyone had asked stupid questions ;D.
I just remembered that the bank never approved an overdraft of more than 500 euros for me before and I got an overdraft of 10,000 euros with the app after all the payouts, so they definitely noticed that. But after the money went towards 0, it was automatically set back to 500 euros. (fortunately)

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frapi07
Elite

Peter8 wrote on January 19, 2024 at 11:39 am:

Gastro is difficult with 450k just the employees alone, you need at least 6 and you have to manage them, nobody means that
You want little effort and little work
With gastro you do exactly the opposite 😂
And you can easily get a house for half a mile
You don't have to exaggerate now 😂😂
There are not only Slot machines where you can put your money in, there are snake and drink machines with all kinds of things, set up 20 of them and get 1 employee to maintain and fill it and you good to go

There are many such things you can do to collect money with little effort
In YT you can see what it can earn

With 450k Gastro safe is not difficult. You don't have to buy a property. You can also rent a property. You don't have to start with a restaurant either. Many restaurateurs I've met have started from scratch. But they are gentlemen who are now 60-85 years old. I even know someone who has worked his way up to become a multi-millionaire. He worked in the restaurant business all his life, invested his money in real estate and was still working in his mid-80s. The guy owns several buildings with several apartments in them.

The costs you mentioned (labor costs) are also variable and should be covered by revenue, not equity. I've seen a few times how some restaurateurs wanted to pass on their business. The price never exceeded the €70,000 mark (as the property was not owned). Depending on the size and age, you can buy a fully equipped restaurant for between €50,000 and €80,000. But I never took it because I would do anything except work in gastronomy.

Anyone who thinks that you already have bad conditions as an employee doesn't know the employer's side of things. Because my grandparents were part-owners of a restaurant, I know a bit about this side and what it's like in some cases. I prefer to work in the office from 9-17. When it's closing time, it's closing time.

I've even seen these snack vending machines or something. I watched videos from the USA years ago. You might watch a few YT videos and think it's easy. Not at all. Apart from the work, no one there will openly and honestly tell you how stressful it all is. You can do it part-time, but then you have to expect less turnover. But if you really want to make money with it, you have to do this work full-time. You can now call up stock live via an app, try out new products (trends, etc.), try to change locations, etc. You don't get the most lucrative spots (at train stations + subway/train stations), universities, etc. anyway, as these are already taken. So if you're new, you have to establish yourself and accept everything you're offered. From bad locations to the fees. Vandalism is also a problem. Depending on the location, it can happen more often. I don't live in the ghetto or anything like that. It's actually been a pensioners' area. There's been an organic egg vending machine for a few years now. Even here it was easily damaged 2-3 times.

All head f***ing. Going abroad is a good idea, but I'm not feeling Thailand or anything like that.


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Falke
Expert
frapi07 wrote on 20.01.2024 01:35:

With 450k Gastro safe is not difficult. You don't have to buy a property. You can also rent a property. You don't have to start with a restaurant either. Many restaurateurs I've met have started from scratch. But they are gentlemen who are now 60-85 years old. I even know someone who has worked his way up to become a multi-millionaire. He worked in the restaurant business all his life, invested his money in real estate and was still working in his mid-80s. The guy owns several buildings with several apartments in them.

The costs you mentioned (labor costs) are also variable and should be covered by revenue, not equity. I've seen a few times how some restaurateurs wanted to pass on their business. The price never exceeded the €70,000 mark (as the property was not owned). Depending on the size and age, you can buy a fully equipped restaurant for between €50,000 and €80,000. But I never took it because I would do anything except work in gastronomy.

Anyone who thinks that you already have bad conditions as an employee doesn't know the employer's side of things. Because my grandparents were part-owners of a restaurant, I know a bit about this side and what it's like in some cases. I prefer to work in the office from 9-17. When it's closing time, it's closing time.

I've even seen these snack vending machines or something. I watched videos from the USA years ago. You might watch a few YT videos and think it's easy. Not at all. Apart from the work, no one there will openly and honestly tell you how stressful it all is. You can do it part-time, but then you have to expect less turnover. But if you really want to make money with it, you have to do this work full-time. You can now call up stock live via an app, try out new products (trends, etc.), try to change locations, etc. You don't get the most lucrative spots (at train stations + subway/train stations), universities, etc. anyway, as these are already taken. So if you're new, you have to establish yourself and accept everything you're offered. From bad locations to the fees. Vandalism is also a problem. Depending on the location, it can happen more often. I don't live in the ghetto or anything like that. It's actually been a pensioners' area. There's been an organic egg vending machine for a few years now. Even here it was easily damaged 2-3 times.

All head f***ing. Going abroad is a good idea, but I'm not feeling Thailand or anything like that.



Right. But I also have another idea. You can simply gamble the money away again within a day, then you don't have to worry about that anymore.

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frapi07
Elite
Falke wrote on 20.01.2024 at 01:57:
Right. But I also have an idea. You can simply gamble the money away again within a day, then you don't have to worry about that anymore.

Yes, but 99.9% would never get into a situation like that anyway. Imagine the following: You bet €1 and win €1000. It's a lot of money, but it doesn't particularly excite you. That's why many people have no problem continuing to play. At €10,000 it's more awesome, but even there some would continue to play. I mean, you know this typical gambler thinking. "If I lose it, then I haven't lost anything because I haven't deposited anything". With €100,000, I think most people would be so flashed that they would cash it out first. Most people wouldn't get to 450k or play like the TE did.

But to get to the point: you shouldn't get angry about the past. Whether gambled away, squandered... whatever. It's over. Would the TE have become much richer with the extra 350k? No. Would his life have changed dramatically? No. I also don't understand why the TE thinks that he would have completely changed his life with 350k. I mean, yes, half a million is not little, but a "life changer"? It would have been a life changer if you had bought 5000 Bitcoins for 1€ and sold them for 60k ^^ Or if you won 25-30 million upwards in the lottery, but not half a million To the TE, I can only recommend the documentaries about the Bubberts. You can see how quickly you can get rid of money.

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Rainmann
Elite

Dutch78 wrote on January 18, 2024 at 10:40 am:

Unfortunately I have to disagree with you, dear Rainmann.


If you don't have any other large reserves, you won't have enough to stop working.
Real estate is not necessarily part of your passive income, as you have to look after it yourself all the time.
I can give you an example of what it would look like if you were thinking about not going back to work.
If you need 2500 euros a month, that would amount to 30,000 euros a year.

There is a so-called 4% rule that you can use as a guide, but it now feels like it is approaching 3%.
These 30,000 euros then correspond exactly to this 4%, i.e. you would have to have a share capital of 750,000 euros.
If you take the 3% as a basis, that would be around one million euros.

Even if this works with a certain number of properties and without friction (without unplanned investments, renovations and repairs) over the year, it also requires a certain amount of discipline, if you can then claim that you tend to lose impulse control and sometimes like to lose complete self-control, then it becomes damn difficult if you run the Risk of carrying the entire income into the game at the beginning of the month.

As you are very attached to soccer, you will no doubt be familiar with the following quote:
"I spent a lot of my money on alcohol, women and fast cars. I squandered the rest"

With this in mind








OK, you've convinced me 😉 but we agree that it would have been a start.

George Best said it back then. 😃👍

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bruffl
Expert
In my neighborhood there is a secondary school and a comprehensive school with about 800 kids.
The owner has set up a well-secured snack vending machine opposite.
he fills it up three times a day and goes to the supermarket... once a month.
He says he has a monthly turnover of over €12,000.
Presumably a net profit of €4000.

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frapi07
Elite
bruffl wrote on 20.01.2024 at 09:17: In my neighborhood there is a secondary school and a comprehensive school with about 800 kids.
Across the street, the owner has set up a snack vending machine, well secured.
he fills it up three times a day and goes to the supermarket... once a month.
He says he has a monthly turnover of over €12,000.
Probably a net profit of €4000.

Schools/businesses are good in themselves, but now you can find a vending machine at almost every school. If I remember my secondary school and technical college, both had several vending machines. They were only filled with drinks (probably because they sold them during the breaks), but it was a great time-saver during the breaks. Well, there was a Lidl next to the secondary school, but officially only the graduating classes were allowed to go to Lidl during the breaks, but it felt like almost everyone did At my technical secondary school at the time, however, it was a blessing and a huge time saver, as the nearest bakery was a good 5 minutes away. You can also expect less vandalism in the schools. As I said, these gold mines are rare.

I would expect less. Turnover 12,000 - half goes to the tax authorities. Then he will pay a lot to the school or the city, Insurance and then energy costs (which, as you know, have risen). Depending on the machine, you can then buy or rent it. Also costs money. Maintenance/vandalism are not due every month, so I'll leave them out. If you were to make a win of €4,000 with a single vending machine, you wouldn't set up anything other than vending machines in Germany ^^ I think the guy will earn around €1,000 from it. I don't mind €1,200, but never €4,000

ps: if he only goes to the wholesaler once a month, then you can roughly estimate how much he sells. He doesn't go there with a truck ^^ It will probably be a Sprinter. It certainly won't fit drinks with a value of €9-10,000.

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Stromberg
Legend
I love snack vending machines. As a consumer, that is. Unfortunately I don't have one of my own. And if I had one, it would be right outside my door and I would be the best customer.

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