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Online Casinos in general: Maybe casinos do have an influence on the games offered ? (Page 6)

Topic created on 16th Jul. 2018 | Page: 6 of 6 | Answers: 58 | Views: 13,582
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Maybe casinos do have an influence on the games offered ?

20th Jul. 2018, at 01:12 pm CEST#51
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tby333 wrote on 07/19/2018 at 21:58
The point I find quite interesting, if I only times from me:
In Online Casinos I have so far 6 times come to a balance of > 2,000, - and this is strangely always only in the casinos where I was not verified
For a year I am verified everywhere and come there actually no longer even over 1,000, -....

That may be coincidence with you, I can not confirm so. I have a few days ago 70 euros deposited at DreamVegasCasino and verified me immediately. Am then up to 800 €, 700 € withdrawal requested and could play me up to 4000 € with the remaining money still available. Then unfortunately back down to 1600 € which I have withdrawn.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the Verification if you win or not, that's just coincidence......
And also not if you have requested a withdrawal or canceled. This may seem so to some, but it is clear that it can not always go up and after playing for a long time can then come back down to the total loss.

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Maybe casinos do have an influence on the games offered ?

20th Jul. 2018, at 02:53 pm CEST#52
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So seriously, even with a floor machine in the arcade you can set different modes, why should not an online casino can do the same.
I seem to remember that you can choose between four modes for the Merkur machines when they are delivered, and that will be very similar for the other providers.

So because of that:

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I don't know exactly anymore, I think that the casinos have a little leeway. And we are still talking about uncontrolled computer systems that somehow depend on Malta, so I think that this thing can certainly do more than just generate coincidences.

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Maybe casinos do have an influence on the games offered ?

20th Jul. 2018, at 02:59 pm CEST#53
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dizyen wrote on 20.07.2018 at 14:53: Seriously, even with a stand-alone device in the arcade, you can set different modes, why should an online casino can not do the same.
I seem to remember that you can choose between four modes for the Merkur devices, which will be similar with the other providers.

So because of that:

Playful
Cash-orent
Balanced

I don't know exactly anymore, I think that the casinos have a little leeway. And we are still talking about uncontrolled computer systems that somehow depend on Malta, so I think that this thing can certainly do more than just generate coincidences.

Source for this? And if that's the case: Always keep in mind that arcade machines are legally not gambling. They can set up whatever they want. It is only a gambling machine with the possibility of winning. It is estimated that the AQ in arcades is around 70-75%, but who really knows?

I can say from my own experience that the AQ of about 93-98% in OCs is about right. Partially even on relatively few spins already frighteningly accurate. I tested this for quite a while on Netent slots, after 1000 spins you are always very close to the stated RTP, maybe a few percent below or above.

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Maybe casinos do have an influence on the games offered ?

20th Jul. 2018, at 04:43 pm CEST#54
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dizyen wrote on 20.07.2018 at 14:53: Seriously, even with a stand-alone device in the arcade you can set different modes, why should an online casino can not do the same.
I seem to remember that you can choose between four modes for the Merkur devices, which will be similar with the other providers.

So because of that:

Playful
Cash-orent
Balanced

I don't know exactly anymore, I think that the casinos have a little leeway. And we are still talking about uncontrolled computer systems that somehow depend on Malta, so I think that this thing can certainly do more than just generate coincidences.

So I have to agree with you who says that this is all fair. Especially in Malta why runs the shit all over the. Funny that is already 🤨

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Maybe casinos do have an influence on the games offered ?

21st Jul. 2018, at 07:12 pm CEST#55
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dizyen wrote on 20.07.2018 at 14:53: Seriously, even with a stand-alone device in the arcade, you can set different modes, why should an online casino can not do the same.
I seem to remember that you can choose between four modes for the Merkur devices, which will be similar with the other providers.

So because of that:

Playful
Cash-orent
Balanced

I don't know exactly anymore, I think that the casinos have a little leeway. And we are still talking about uncontrolled computer systems that somehow depend on Malta, so I think that this thing can certainly do more than just generate coincidences.

Your statement is absolutely not correct! That was possible in the past, but today it's old news. If you order a device from a manufacturer, you can be lucky and get a money box or a device that throws permanently. All the game modes such as A, B, C, D, etc., you no longer have any influence on almost any device and can no longer influence it. With older devices this is still possible. But what is true is that there are good and bad odds. All the M-Box machines in the special edition like Soccer, Egypt, Fruits etc. are more cash oriented, while the normal M-Box machines are more designed for many, "small" wins.

By the way, the source for this is myself, because I am a setter

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21st Jul. 2018, at 07:13 pm CEST#56
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Chris1503 wrote on 20/07/2018 at 16:43
So I have to agree with you who says that this is all fair. Vorallem in Malta why runs the shit everything about the. Funny is that already 🤨

Who does not have the slightest idea of why it all runs through Malta, which should better not play in online casinos.

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21st Jul. 2018, at 07:16 pm CEST#57
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Bones wrote on 07/20/2018 at 2:59 PM
They can put up what they want there. It's just a gambling machine with the possibility to win.


Again, someone with dangerous half-knowledge. Do you have even a rudimentary idea of the conditions to which we are subject? How often we are inspected? Which requirements do we have to fulfill in order to be allowed to put a PTB-approved device into operation at all? Don't spread such nonsense here! Conjecture and reality are two different things.

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21st Jul. 2018, at 07:27 pm CEST#58
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Harmony wrote on 07/21/2018 at 7:16 pm
Again, someone with dangerous half-knowledge. Do you have even a rudimentary idea of the constraints we are under? How frequently we are audited? What requirements we have to meet to even be allowed to put a PTB approved device into service? Don't spread such nonsense here! Conjecture and reality are two different things.

This is not nonsense. Of course, gambling halls are subject to regulations and the machines themselves are subject to physical-technical testing (if that's what you mean by PTB). Nevertheless, the whole thing is a double standard from the state. On the one hand, it is not gambling, on the other hand, the staff must be trained in Player protection, there must be information material on Gambling addiction and so on.

I like to believe that arcade operators have a lot of paperwork to do to get the necessary licenses and rights, yet a machine in an arcade has no legal payout ratio and that was all I wanted to say with my comment. If Merkur is up for it, they can set up a machine that has an AQ of 70% (which is absolutely ridiculous).

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21st Jul. 2018, at 07:46 pm CEST#59
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Bones wrote on 07/21/2018 at 7:27 pm
This is not nonsense. Of course amusement arcades are subject to regulations and the machines themselves are subject to the Physikalisch-technischen-Prüfstelle (if that's what you mean by PTB). Still, the whole thing is a double standard from the state. On the one hand, it is not gambling, on the other hand, the staff must be trained in Player protection, there must be information material on Gambling addiction and so on.

I like to believe that arcade operators have a lot of paperwork to do to get the necessary licenses and rights, yet a machine in an arcade has no legal payout ratio and that was all I wanted to say with my comment. If Merkur is up for it, they can set up a machine that has an AQ of 70% (which is absolutely ridiculous).

And in a way it is nonsense. It is true that there is no legal payout ratio on paper anymore. Nevertheless, the machines are checked to see if the cash and RTP are right after a certain time factor. And of course, 100 spins are not enough for that. Thus, not a single device would get an approval from the PTB, if the RTP would be at e.g. 10%. If this were so easy and arbitrarily realizable, then a manual Manipulation of the quota would not represent a criminal offense and all operators would manipulate their devices at whim, which would lead to 99% to the immediate withdrawal of the license.

And with the introduction of TR 5.0, there will be another decisive cut precisely at this point.

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