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Online Casinos in general: Manipulation?! What do you think? (Page 10)

Topic created on 04th May. 2018 | Page: 10 of 33 | Answers: 324 | Views: 71,589
s****e

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 11:13 am CEST#91
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@ Random

You wrote that very well, and you are right of course.
It was first the incident of the thread creator, and then the thing with the multiplication of the win
with a user. These are, in my opinion, evidence to cheat with high probability.
As you write, this is of course subjective, and not verifiable.
Therefore, it remains for the time being undruchsichtig.

@Danielowitch
I can also understand this 100%.
Here was once the Vikings listed on the front places.
With the first Deposit and acceptance of a bonus, the maximum payout was limited to 1000€.
Of course, again own fault, because I have not read through it carefully
And logically, how can it be otherwise, I won there the first time 2,500€.
But have me then really annoyed that the Vikings Casino was listed here relatively high. Actually a
Unding with such bonus conditions. Or it would have to be explicitly pointed out.
Stand but only, bonus conditions not good, and I thought it was about the relatively high turnover requirements.



@Ibea01
You have also written that well. Because of the non-transparency nobody knows in principle how much win,
and how much lose. But that would be extremely important to be able to really control whether or not
Casinos everything runs according to the rules or not. And just because such statistics are missing, of course, can be wonderfully cheated.

@Zaroo

If I had a casino, everything would run to my satisfaction. Verification would be fast, and there would be winners
Winners. However, there would also be losers. And more, as the RTP indicates
So I would cheat.
Those who lose have just had bad luck
or I would refer to the RTP. I would often concede here in such a forum to give the impression,
that my casino is the best. It costs a little, but I can go about my "business" undisturbed.
Everyone would rave about me, but I rip off everyone!

Many here also do not want to understand. Fraudulent casino does not mean that there are only problems and negative
Reviews there. On the contrary, that would mean the end of my fraudulent activities.
I would be meticulous to get only positive headlines. The winners would be the losers in such
Forums here the losers in the rein hold, without which I would have to do as an operator what.
Then comes a bone, calculates you the RTP, and that everything is based only on luck and bad luck.
And I would laugh my ass off.

Remedy could create e.g. a kind of balance of the Casino.
In Germany you could rely on it, because from it the taxes are due, and they look already quite
exactly. Of course, cheating is possible, but the probability is much lower, and my gut feeling is that
quite a bit lower, and my gut feeling calms down a bit.

In my favorite casino, the money won is only paid out at tables that have a camera directly above them
Camera hangs directly above. When I asked why they don't pay out directly at the machines like they used to, they said it was
an order of the tax office, in order to be able to control and tax the tips exactly
No matter whether one finds that now correct or wrong, it gives one a good feeling that there completely exactly one looks.
Incidentally, when a call attendant is at a few machines, the machines are opened briefly to reset them.
You can take a quick look at the LCD display in the machine. There the deposits are
are always higher than the payouts, but they are relatively close together

And that is exactly what is missing at OC. Everything is so in the dark, no control. I never really know if it was bad luck,
or if I've been cheated. And in my opinion, that is intentional. Why don't casinos provide
more transparency? Not even the top casinos in the industry do this. Why?
Why does everything remain so in the dark. This is certainly not a coincidence.
Why is it so often that you win well with a bonus, and then shortly before the end of the turnover, you completely
completely crashes. Or when the real money is gone, it goes very briefly into the Bonus money, before
then you win, so that you are subject to the bonus conditions
This phenomenon can be observed in all forums. This is so often the case, and
this is not a coincidence, nor is it a subjective feeling

But of course you are right, you have to draw the consequences and stop gambling.

What annoys me when they come here with their RTP`s. That is complete nonsense, because
not comprehensible. And I stick to that. Are all own information of the casinos, or the
Game manufacturer
Or with the MGA, the holy grail here. Which is only with a cog of the entire system.
Or with the license from Malta. Although Europe, but a group of islands in the sea. Yes great! There is
the lawyer on the travel expenses at a court hearing
Whereby it is actually difficult to sue, because it is forbidden in Germany.
Next problem. You are simply at the mercy of the system. The system is perfect.


Well, the fact is that this thread has gotten a little out of hand. I was really angry when
Knochen, the people here as stupid, and Aka has agreed with him.
Knochen has a condescending arrogant way about him, and really gives to every topic his
Mustard to it. No matter if he has a clue or not. He is still young, has never done anything, has zero understanding of the subject, but puts
understood, but puts others through his arrogant manner as stupid. And also likes to talk
swollen and throws gladly with technical terms around itself, in order to denounce others.
Probably still lives at home, and gets the laundry done by mom.
Nevertheless, we all have to accept that, with few exceptions, no one can calculate the RTP
except Aka and of course bones!

But anyway, of course I shouldn't have reacted like that, that wasn't right either
Even if they have put me on the palm, because in reality they have not understood
what I mean, and what it is actually about, I should not have written some things
That was unobjective.






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Anonym

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 12:37 pm CEST#92
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This is really funnier than the muppet show xD

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blingbling
Rookie

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 01:29 pm CEST#93
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the casinos have trained prefabricated psychological brainwash methods as far as complaints are concerned which works pretty well example:

1.if you cry the full because you verleierst bait se with nem bonus or small wins what was the case with me

2.another variant what i did last night:sent an email and put a big text in it that your casino is not up to scratch (i listed a few points) came today from the support de emai >we have recognized that you might have a problem and need help and offer you a self-exclusion< ðŸ˜'ðŸ˜'
pretty slick
well that's how it works you can't in the least take action against these scammers

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Knochen
Elite

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 03:03 pm CEST#94
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blingbling wrote on 06/05/2018 at 13:29: the casinos have trained ready-made psychological brainwash methods as far as complaints are concerned which works pretty well example:

1.if you cry because you verleierst se bait you with nem bonus or small wins what was the case with me

2.another variant what i did last night:sent an email and put a big text in it that your casino is not up to scratch (i listed a few points) came today from the support de emai >we have recognized that you might have a problem and need help and offer you a self-exclusion< ðŸ˜'ðŸ˜'
pretty slick
well that's how it works you can't in the least take action against these scammers

To point 2: Kudos, good and serious reaction from the casino.

Seriously, if I would work in the support of a casino I would be after no later than 2 weeks either psychologically at the end or would be the same. I do not even want to know how many characters there daily with fraud accusations throw around to possibly dust off a few free spins or whatever. If I ever found an online casino, which of course I won't, then I would block all players who show even the slightest gambling-addicted behavior with information about therapy centers and possibilities forever and then go bankrupt very quickly. The whole industry sucks so much and the customers are the worst.

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Knochen
Elite

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 03:09 pm CEST#95
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@stkrie: These personal hostilities are really starting to go too far for me. You know nothing at all about me and my life? Yes I am indeed still relatively young at least probably measured by the average age here but I have certainly not achieved little or experienced and especially not for my age. I am also not arrogant at all. I stick to the facts. Maybe my young head is just not yet so worn down from years of excessive gambling or maybe I really am more intelligent. I don't want to presume to judge what's wrong with you but ask the serious question why you don't live out your hatred of everything and everyone that has anything to do with casinos in a Gambling addiction forum instead of one for gamblers. There are 1-2 out there.

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Anonym

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 03:12 pm CEST#96
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Bone wrote on 06/05/2018 at 15:03
The whole industry sucks so bad and the customers are the worst.

I can only agree with that.... it's really bad that some people are always crying in forums and insulting others just because it's not going so well....
I myself like to play even if I often get really on the sack. However, I do not cry others full or rushed against casinos that allegedly cheat but am angry at myself that I do not keep my limits as it would make sense for me...
Every player who does not live completely out of touch with reality knows that you usually lose...
So that high can be won must also be lost high... It's a matter of who wins or loses... that is in my eyes the RTP...

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redriver67
Expert

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 03:15 pm CEST#97
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Personally, I only notice that Online Casinos are getting worse every year.

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s****e

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 03:18 pm CEST#98
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What does that have to do with the topic here?

What does that have to do with agitation if you are critical?
Who howls around or who has lost????
First turn on little brain, then answer!

I told you before, Smitty, you can let yourself get
until you end up on the street, I don't care
i do not care.

Make a game community with Knochen, then you can both calculate the RTP
the RTP.

This is now really better than the Muppet Show

Smart guys among themselves!

@Redriver

Definitely!
But only the older ones know that.
Our smallest here rather not.

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Knochen
Elite

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 03:19 pm CEST#99
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redriver67 wrote on 06.05.2018 at 15:15: I personally notice only that it runs from year to year worse in Online Casinos

But that can also have reasons that have nothing to do with the casinos. When I started to play in the past in gaming arcades, it went reasonably well. I went in with 20-50€ and was happy like a little schoolboy when I had 100€ on a machine. With that I usually left the Spielo. Later I would have paid out 100€ but just at other machines directly used again. Even later, I have such amounts not even paid out.

I do not want to deny that online casinos are now perhaps really worse than before, I can not really judge. But I'm also sure that some players simply change the gaming behavior and so the impression arises.

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Anonym

Manipulation?! What do you think?

6th May. 2018, at 03:21 pm CEST#100
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This troll thread is still alive? Then keep feeding it!

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