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Online Casinos in general: Lottoland double payout. What now?

Topic created on 29th Mar. 2024 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 19 | Views: 2,404
schmiiiddy
Hello,

Briefly about me: I'm Lukas, 23 years old and new to the online casino business.

I recently registered with the Provider " www.lottoland.com " and deposited €40-50 and played slots there. I won a total of €450.05 and paid this out. The money arrived the next day and I was delighted. Another day later, I received the amount of €450.05 again, i.e. double .

Since the whole thing seemed a bit "strange" to me, I informed myself once and asked anonymously at the gambling authority of the federal states whether Lottoland was legal. It was made clear to me that Lottoland is "unauthorized gambling on the Internet".

A few days later, I received an e-mail from Lottoland asking me to transfer back the amount that was paid out twice. The reason for the double payout was a technical error.
( A deadline or possible consequence was NOT mentioned in the e-mail )

It's not about the money. But now that I know that Lottoland is illegal in Germany, I don't want to conclude any more transactions with them. Now, of course, I'm worried that something could happen to me.

I have read through Lottoland's terms and conditions. However, I can't quite make heads or tails of it.

I'm definitely not going to play there anymore.

Does anyone have any advice or tips on what I should do now?

The email from Lottoland was sent 3 days ago and I have "ignored" it for now

I would be grateful for any advice.

Have a nice Easter and stay healthy!

Your schmiiiddy.

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Hidaruma
Top Member
If you don't want to play there anyway, you can look forward to an extra 450 eur.
If they are actually offering their service illegally in Germany, they are unlikely to take legal action, especially not for 450 eur.

Let's just hope that your bank doesn't make a fuss.

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schmiiiddy

Hidaruma wrote on 29.03.2024 at 13:48: If you don't want to play there anyway, you can look forward to an additional 450 eur.


I'm just worried about the legal situation, whether something can happen to me if I don't pay the money back to Lottoland.

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Hidaruma
Top Member

schmiiiddy wrote on March 29th, 2024 at 1:52 pm:

I'm just worried about how it looks legally, whether something can happen to me if I don't pay the money back to Lottoland.

I have edited my post. However, it should be treated with caution, as no one can tell you 100% what can and will happen.

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Anonymus
Rookie

schmiiiddy wrote on March 29th, 2024 at 1:52 pm:

I'm just worried about how it looks legally, whether something can happen to me if I don't pay the money back to Lottoland.

You played with an unlicensed provider. That was already "illegal". This Provider has now paid you too much. I wouldn't worry about that at all and would be happy with the money.

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WithoutWings
Expert
Keep and delete account there 😄🥳👍

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roccoammo11
Expert
I've been in Debt there for 4 years and nothing has ever happened...I can even still log in But unfortunately I no longer get bonuses...

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schmiiiddy

roccoammo11 wrote on 29.03.2024 at 17:01: I've been in Debt there for 4 years and nothing has ever happened...I can even still log in But unfortunately I don't get Bonuses anymore.

If I may ask what was the cause back then?

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Frankey
Experienced
Keep the money. You are not obliged to give it back and they cannot claim it back through the bank.

And if they get on your nerves, tell them that you had to give it to the authorities. To avoid being charged with illegal gambling at Lottoland.

You'll probably get letters from some law firm that read like they're straight out of a John Grisham courtroom thriller, but that's about it.

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flaschenposter
Experienced

schmiiiddy wrote on 29.03.2024 at 13:35: Hello,



It's not about the money. But now that I know that Lottoland is illegal in Germany, I don't want to conclude any more transactions with them. Now, of course, I'm worried that something could happen to me.

I have read through Lottoland's terms and conditions. However, I can't quite make heads or tails of it.

Your schmiiiddy.

Ha ha, strong character!


First "illegally dabbling", then collecting twice, then getting cold feet & a guilty "conscience", but still collecting twice/enriching yourself "illegally".
Are you serious?

Your desire not to conclude any "further transactions" with them is absolutely unfounded. That wouldn't be another illegal gambling "transaction", but merely a reversal of the transaction. The transaction only becomes illegal if you do not carry it out.

And that you can just keep it? Why don't you try it? I wouldn't count on it. Debt instruments can easily be enforced within the EU. And only the first payment is probably not enforceable in Germany - because of the illegal basis of the transaction. The second is probably not...
And if, for whatever reason, enforcement is not possible without further ado, I would simply turn the tables on them. And report you for illegal online gambling. After all, they have your address and other data

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d****a
don't react at all. don't write an email either. in case of doubt, you didn't even notice the whole number, didn't get their email. don't play anymore (not anyway, see my posts) done.

they will not take any action whatsoever regarding 405 euros, they have enough to do with other legal problems.

treat yourself to something nice.

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d****a

flaschenposter wrote on 30.03.2024 00:48:

Ha ha, strong character...!


First "illegally daddling", then cashing in twice, then getting cold feet & a bad "conscience", but still cashing in twice/enriching yourself "illegally".
Are you serious?

Your desire not to conclude any "further transactions" with them is absolutely unfounded. That wouldn't be another illegal gambling "transaction", but merely a reversal of the transaction. The transaction only becomes illegal if you do not carry it out.

And that you can just keep it? Why don't you try it? I wouldn't count on it. Debt instruments can easily be enforced within the EU. And only the first payment is probably not enforceable in Germany - because of the illegal basis of the transaction. The second is probably not...
And if, for whatever reason, enforcement is not possible without further ado, I would simply turn the tables on them. And report you for illegal online gambling. After all, they have your address and other data

don't take the moral high ground, club. when it comes to strength of character, no gambler needs to put himself above another. especially not in a case like this. really not.

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Frankey
Experienced
I can give you one piece of vital advice.
Should Joe Pesci ring your doorbell one day, or suddenly stand in front of you with a pen in his hand, run away immediately, trust me on this 😉

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d****a

Frankey wrote on 30.03.2024 at 11:40 am: I can give you one piece of advice that is vital for survival.
Should it happen that Joe Pesci rings your doorbell one day, or suddenly stands in front of you with a pen in his hand, run away immediately, trust me on this 😉

it only gets really dangerous when there's a poodle at the door. you can read about it in Faust.


if he then takes the pen...

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chriss1808
Experienced

roccoammo11 wrote on 29.03.2024 at 17:01: I've been in Debt there for 4 years and nothing has ever happened...I can even log in But unfortunately I don't get Bonuses anymore....

jap have the same with lottohelden have debts there too but only since the end of last year they had given me a deadline until mid february now we have april and nothing came...i can even still play bonuses so i have already gone from -275 euro at the beginning to -261

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