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Online Casinos in general: Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix (Page 2)

Topic created on 06th Dec. 2024 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 23 | Views: 3,046
Svenr
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

11th Dec. 2024, at 09:04 am CET#16
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It's a topsy-turvy world, if you win everything is fine, if you lose (which is usually the case) I sue for the losses, you make the world as you like it is safe to play, at least in theory.
It's like in gambling if you put in a twenty and nothing comes of it, then you go to the therapist and demand the twenty euros back.
Everyone knows that you have more losses than wins

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Lionking
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

11th Dec. 2024, at 04:00 pm CET#17
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Svenr wrote on 11.12.2024 at 09:04: Inverted world, with wins everything is good if you lose (which is mostly) I sue for the losses, because you make the world as you like it is safe to play theoretically at least.
It's like in gambling if you put in a twenty and nothing comes of it, then you go to the therapist and demand the twenty euros back.
Everyone knows that you have more losses than wins

Fortunately, we have you to stand up for the oh-so-poor casinos.

Seriously, most casinos are certainly not starving and those who offer their games illegally must also expect customers to reclaim their "unjustly" lost money, at least according to current case law. Many would certainly be happy to do without all the effort if they were only in the black, but that's hardly the case for anyone, which is logical.
Everyone has to decide for themselves whether they want to try to get something back, but pity is not appropriate.

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Falke
Expert

Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

14th Dec. 2024, at 06:00 am CET#18
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 09.12.2024 at 13:52:

Awesome how different the offers are! I had also sued for my losses at LeoVegas some time ago and got an immediate compensation of just 5%...bad!

But you didn't really accept that? I got 100% from them very early on. Enforced by a lawyer.

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XXLEONIDASXX
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

15th Dec. 2024, at 11:45 pm CET#19
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Falke wrote on 14.12.2024 at 06:00:

But you didn't really assume that? I got 100% from them very early on. Enforced by a lawyer.

But I accepted it because the money had been gambled away anyway and at the time I didn't want to spend a year or so trying to get it back. I could make good use of the few thousand euros at the time, so I did it and had the money in my account after 2 days. But in hindsight, it was really stupid... It was just under €70,000 in total and I got around 4k 🙈🤣

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Falke
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

18th Dec. 2024, at 06:43 am CET#20
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on December 15, 2024 at 11:45 pm:

Yes, I had accepted because the money was gambled away anyway and at the time I didn't feel like struggling with the reclaim for 1 year or so. I could use the few thousand euros at the time, so I did it and had the money in my account after 2 days. But in hindsight, it was really stupid... It was just under €70,000 in total and I got around 4k 🙈🤣

Sorry, that's really stupid. LeoVegas offered settlement payments at the time and usually 100%. In other words, it would have taken the lawyer about 2-3 months to get the money back.


The immediate compensation of 5% is pure fraud because the providers only accept casinos that they know will enter into out-of-court settlements. So they transfer 5% to you and get the full amount paid out 2-3 months later at the latest.

I know the list of casinos for which these instant payments are offered and these are exactly the casinos that pay immediately.
LeoVegas has since changed its strategy and they no longer pay immediately, but that was still the case back then. I waited 2 months for my 100% back then. So you simply gave €64,000 to a dubious provider.

If you think that's not true, then let me ask you something. Have you ever been to a court hearing? If not, then you know for sure that the casino paid without going to court because, instant payment or not, you will have to appear in court in person if the casino does not pay out of court.

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moralischverwerflich
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

18th Dec. 2024, at 01:59 pm CET#21
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Falke wrote on 18.12.2024 at 06:43:

If you think that's not true, here's a question. Have you ever been to a court hearing? If no, then you know for sure that the casino paid without going to court because, instant payment or not, you have to appear in court in person if the casino doesn't pay out of court.

The statement is false.

I still have one case pending where there was a trial. It was not necessary for me to appear in person. Only my lawyer had to appear.

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gamble1
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

18th Dec. 2024, at 08:28 pm CET#22
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morallyreprehensible wrote on December 18, 2024 at 1:59 pm:

The statement is false.

I still have one case pending where there was a trial. No personal appearance was necessary on my part. Only my lawyer had to appear.

I think this is because your lawyer has a mandate from you and can speak on your behalf or present your point of view.

With these instant money offers, the terms and conditions often state: "An appearance in court is usually not necessary, but you still agree to appear in the event of a lawsuit." They only buy your claim. If the court wants to know your position, no one can speak for you - you have to appear yourself.


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XXLEONIDASXX
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

18th Dec. 2024, at 11:42 pm CET#23
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Yes, I am aware that this 5% is a pure rip-off...I also thought about it for a long time...since I heard that the whole thing can easily take 1 year until the process is won, which doesn't mean that the casino pays, I decided on the immediate offer, even if it was sejr little money compared to what they now get in my name from the casinos...but f**k it! I was gambling anyway.

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Anonymus
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Letter received Settlement negotiations with Gammix

18th Dec. 2024, at 11:50 pm CET#24
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 18.12.2024 at 23:42: Yes, I am aware that this 5% is a pure rip-off...I also thought about it for a really long time...since I heard that the whole thing can easily take 1 year until the process is won, which doesn't mean that the casino pays, I decided on the immediate offer, even if it was sejr little money compared to what they are now getting from the casinos in my name...but f**k it! I was gambling anyway.

You're right again, in the end it was gone anyway! How much did you get out of it and was it simply transferred to your bank account? Not that you're going to have problems with the bank because of that?

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