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Online Casinos in general: Leovegas payout duration experience (Page 2)

Topic created on 18th Nov. 2019 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 24 | Views: 7,699
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Leovegas payout duration experience

18th Nov. 2019, at 06:01 pm CET#11
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is normal. that's why i would never use sofortüberweisung but trustly

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Josefine

Leovegas payout duration experience

25th Apr. 2020, at 08:06 pm CEST#12
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Let themselves with the payout extremely long time, do not accept documents, picture blurred, really ridiculous with the hope that the win is gambled away again, fingers away from Leo Vegas!!!

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Anonym

Leovegas payout duration experience

25th Apr. 2020, at 08:51 pm CEST#13
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Josefine wrote on 25.04.2020 at 20:06: Let themselves with the payout extremely long time, do not accept documents, picture blurred, really ridiculous with the hope that the win is gambled away again, fingers away from Leo Vegas!!!

Leo Vegas is a top casino, even if their bonus offer is a bit special. Just scan your papers again and make sure that all corners are visible. Usually the documents are checked by a software.

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Niroht
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Leovegas payout duration experience

26th Apr. 2020, at 08:39 am CEST#14
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Royal777 wrote on 04/25/2020 at 20:51
Leo Vegas is a top casino, even if their bonus offer is a bit special. Just scan your papers again and make sure all corners are VISIBLE. Usually the documents are checked by software.

I can only agree with that
And yes, the bonus is special because it is different. But I have to admit that I find it really good by now. It has for me the immense advantage over the other bonus offers. I can pay out on a win as I want. In other casinos, it has happened to me unfortunately just too often, from a larger win nothing or significantly less of it to get a payout. How often has it happened to still have to convert sum X😣. 🤔🙄

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Anonym

Leovegas payout duration experience

31st Dec. 2020, at 02:19 am CET#15
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Angelo
No thanks.
The thing with immediate is that the transfer takes a couple of days. The money will be debited from your account immediately and we will credit you directly, but it will come out of our pocket for the time being. Until the money is actually received by us, it takes a few days and before this has not happened we can of course not pay out any money
We ask for your understanding.



This is already the biggest bullshit ever. The guy was previously as a supporter in other casinos and was there also not brightest light. If that were so, they would make themselves punishable, because they would then grant a loan until the money finally arrives at them

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Takkata
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Leovegas payout duration experience

31st Dec. 2020, at 05:16 am CET#16
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wwedraft wrote on 12/31/2020 at 02:19 PM
This is already the biggest bullshit ever. The guy used to be a supporter in other casinos and was not the brightest light there either. If that were so, they would make themselves punishable, because they would then grant a loan until the money finally arrives at them. G


Law and medicine have one thing in common: In both areas, "well-founded half-knowledge" is at best useless and at worst dangerous...!

With the Deposit over SOFORT happens essentially the following


  1. the customer gives his bank data incl. login-pin via the input mask to Sofort GmbH / Klarna

  2. SOFORT "logs in" to the customer's bank account and checks (besides data not directly required for the payment) the available credit and transfer limit

  3. SOFORT initiates the transfer in the customer's online banking to the respective online store (in our case Leovegas)

  4. The customer confirms the transfer to his bank with his chosen TAN method and the money is sent to Leovegas

  5. SOFORT confirms LeoVegas that the customer has executed the transfer from his (covered) account

  6. Leovegas will then credit the customer's account with the transferred amount




Why is the amount credited before the money actually arrives in their bank account?

Because both the customer and Leovegas are interested in the reels spinning as soon as possible...!

The Risk of default lies in the case until the actual value on the LeoVegas account at the casino... Is but with a completed online transfer vanishingly small (who has ever tried to stop a transfer or call back, can warble a song about it)

It is exciting at most - as in the case of the TE - if the customer wants to pay out his win before the deposit is received on the LeoVegas account... payouts are usually significantly higher than the previous deposit, which of course changes the risk assessment...

So has with "credit" so about nothing at all to do...

Btw. you do not have the problem with deposits via Trustly, because in this case the deposit goes to Trustly and Trustly is in advance to the casino (and thus assumes the default risk)

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Anonym

Leovegas payout duration experience

31st Dec. 2020, at 08:58 am CET#17
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Takkata wrote on 12/31/2020 at 05:16 PM


One thing law & medicine have in common: in both fields "sound half-knowledge" is useless at best and dangerous at worst...!

When depositing via SOFORT, essentially what happens is this


  1. the customer gives his bank data incl. login-pin via the input mask to Sofort GmbH / Klarna

  2. SOFORT "logs in" to the customer's bank account and checks (besides data not directly required for the payment) the available credit and transfer limit

  3. SOFORT initiates the transfer in the customer's online banking to the respective online store (in our case Leovegas)

  4. The customer confirms the transfer to his bank with his chosen TAN method and the money is sent to Leovegas

  5. SOFORT confirms LeoVegas that the customer has executed the transfer from his (covered) account

  6. Leovegas will then credit the customer's account with the transferred amount




Why is the amount credited before the money actually arrives in their bank account?

Because both the customer and Leovegas are interested in the reels spinning as soon as possible...!

The Risk of default lies in the case until the actual value on the LeoVegas account at the casino... Is but with a completed online transfer vanishingly small (who has ever tried to stop a transfer or call back, can warble a song about it)

It is exciting at most - as in the case of the TE - if the customer wants to pay out his win before the Deposit is received on the LeoVegas account... payouts are usually significantly higher than the previous deposit, which of course changes the risk assessment...

So has with "credit" so about nothing at all to do...

Btw. you do not have the problem with deposits via Trustly, because in this case the deposit goes to Trustly and Trustly is in advance to the casino (and thus assumes the default risk)

There you are unfortunately on the wrong track. Meanwhile, the customer plays on "credit" and that should not be according to the terms and conditions of the casinos. Therefore, the support tells complete nonsense.

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Takkata
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Leovegas payout duration experience

31st Dec. 2020, at 10:02 am CET#18
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wwedraft wrote on 12/31/2020 at 08:58 AM
You're barking up the wrong tree there, unfortunately. Meanwhile, the customer plays on "credit" and that should not be according to the terms and conditions of the casinos. Therefore, the support tells complete nonsense.

Then I would be grateful if you would lead me from my wrong track...

What has a payment already made (which is only between the banks - see also TARGET2 - not yet final value) to do with a credit?

A credit is the provision of money at a point in time with an agreement on repayment in the future... If the SOFORT transfer would lead to a credit, this would also apply to ALL other payments in the national and international banking system...

Or also for your purchases with the EC-card as well as also withdrawals at the cash dispenser (which are also not immediately put to value)...

Incidentally, also for Trustly transfers... 1. SEPA real-time transfers are also only value-dated at the end of the banking day.... 2. If you transfer the money to Trustly and not to the casino (which according to your opinion would make Trustly the lender)

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Anonym

Leovegas payout duration experience

31st Dec. 2020, at 11:39 am CET#19
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No! The casino itself says we have to empty our own pockets for it. So it is a "credit" that you supposedly grant that you get money

If a casino can't manage real-time payments, it has already lost the competition.

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Takkata
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Leovegas payout duration experience

31st Dec. 2020, at 01:19 pm CET#20
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Of course the statement from the support is bullshit...But you really don't understand how money transfers work...

And via SOFORT you do not perform a real-time transfer, but a "normal" transfer to the casino... Sofort has NOTHING to do with the money - they only confirm to the casino that the customer has initiated the transfer in his online banking....

Everything else are banktechnische Buchunsdetails and among other things also dependent on various national national holiday...... (today is one in Germany - but nowhere else in Europe)


With Trustly, the casino does not make a fuss, because you transfer directly to Trustly (in real time, otherwise the money is not directly available in the casino) and Trustly takes over the Risk of default - for a nice surcharge compared to Sofort...

The same applies to the service "online transfer" from FINTEC....


Btw. even real-time transfers are still up to 10 days recallable (with much effort):

The payment order by real-time transfer is not revocable in Germany according to § 675p Abs. 1 BGB . However, since the SCT[sup]Inst[/sup] provides for a recall possibility within ten banking days and the SCT[sup]Inst[/sup] is a Lex specialis in relation to the BGB, a recall is possible.

And now please tell me which casino gets it right with which BANK TRANSFER METHOD as you think the competition requires?!

"If a casino can't get it right with real-time payments, they've already lost the competition anyway."

P.S.: Facts instead of phrases or opinions would be helpful....


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