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Online Casinos in general: legal problems with larger wins (Page 12)

Topic created on 12th Jun. 2018 | Page: 12 of 19 | Answers: 188 | Views: 62,304
Sindragosa
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unicorn wrote on 09/23/2020 at 7:52 pm
no thing

This means that the Online Casinos from other EU countries (Malta/Gibraltar) are not allowed to make their offer available in Germany, even if they have a license there (Malta/Gibraltar). The only exception is Schleswig-Holstein. Online casinos that have a SH license are allowed to offer their services there . In the rest of Germany, all online casinos are currently illegal.


Okay, thank you very much for your detailed explanation.


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Sindragosa
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unicorn wrote on 09/21/2020 at 12:53 pm: The case is not a big deal. Every halfway good lawyer clarifies the facts with a single letter to the public prosecutor. As some here have already communicated, the measures taken by the state or the state of BaWü violate higher-level EU law and are therefore illegal. If the case ends up in court, you don't need to worry about the outcome. However, I think that the case can be settled out of court and the public prosecutor's office will release your money even without a lawsuit.

However, this contradicts what you have written here

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Falko
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Sindragosa wrote on 09/23/2020 at 8:57 pm
But that contradicts with what you wrote here.

You've got from your lawyer meanwhile some information, as now in this matter is proceeding and you must also be able to say whether the win is yours ? He has been working for you for a few days now and after you got this indictment letter from the court, the time is ripe for him to give you a statement about this matter. That is not normal, that you stand with your mother still in the rain and do not know more than before.

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Sindragosa
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Falko wrote on 23.09.2020 at 21:09
You have but of your lawyer meanwhile some information received, as now in this matter is further proceeded and the must you but also say whether the win is entitled to you? He has been working for you for a few days now and after you have received this letter of indictment from the court, the time is ripe for him to give you a statement on this matter. That is not normal, that you stand with your mother still in the rain and do not know more than before.

That gives me evenly to think. I worry all the time that we have looked for the wrong lawyer.

He just said that as soon as he has access to the files, he will let us know immediately. In a further step he will contact the lawyers of the casino

In addition, we do not have a letter of indictment but only a seizure order from the public prosecutor's office.

And exactly therefore, because we still stand in the rain I have the Internet until further notice completely taken apart on this subject.

For me, the matter is clear.
The money is seized because online gambling is illegal.
What comes out in the end we will still see.

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u****n
Sindragosa wrote on 09/23/2020 at 8:57 pm
But that contradicts with what you wrote here.

No, I still think that a lawyer with the appropriate arguments can settle the case out of court and you can get your money. A ruling from 2017 does not necessarily have to be applied to today's and similar cases, especially since we are currently on the road to legalization. Also, the approach of the state that is only interested in the big fish is unjustified.

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Falko
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Sindragosa wrote on 09/23/2020 at 9:33 pm
That's just what makes me think. I worry all the time that we picked the wrong lawyer.

He just said that as soon as he has access to the file he will let us know. In a further step he will contact the lawyers of the casino

In addition, we do not have an indictment letter but only a seizure order from the public prosecutor's office.

And exactly therefore, because we still stand in the rain I have the Internet until further notice completely taken apart on this subject.

For me, the matter is clear.
The money is seized because online gambling is illegal.
What comes out in the end we will still see.

If it comes to the garnishment, then you really have the wrong lawyer. Would be the first time I hear that the state has retained the win of someone from an online casino. Is that normal, that the lawyer still has not received access to the file? Really bad this eternally long uncertainty.

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Sindragosa
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unicorn wrote on 09/23/2020 at 9:44 pm
No, I still think that a lawyer with the appropriate arguments can settle the case out of court and you can get your money. A 2017 ruling does not necessarily apply to today's and similar cases, especially since we are currently on the road to legalization. Also, the approach of the state that is only interested in the big fish is unjustified.

What should have changed in these 2 years already large at the legal situation ?

On the way of the legalization does not mean also for a long time that it could be of importance.
I am not negative. But I try to see it as realistically as possible.

What I find totally unrealistic are these contradictions on the Internet
On one side you read that the ban would violate existing EU law (freedom of services).
But then on another page of a law firm you read that Online Casinos do not fall under freedom of services.

Then you read about cases where online providers have won lawsuits.

This is all a huge pile of excrement. Sorry

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u****n
Falko wrote on 23.09.2020 at 21:48
Should it come to the garnishment, then you really have the wrong lawyer. Would be the first time I hear that the state has retained the win of someone from an online casino. Is that normal, that the lawyer still has not received access to the file? Really bad this eternally long uncertainty.

Since money receipts under 10,000 are not reported, which is why most pay out a large win also piecemeal or on the part of the casino the payment is made in several steps. But as soon as an amount of 500,000 is received, the same flies of course in several places

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Sindragosa
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unicorn wrote on 23.09.2020 at 21:57
Since money receipts under 10,000 are not reported, which is why most pay out a large win also piecemeal or on the part of the casino the payment is made in several steps. But as soon as an amount of 500,000 is received, the same flies of course in several places.

She said she could only pay out in 30,000 increments.
She blames herself that she has paid out everything at once

But what exactly do you want to say with the fact that it flies up in several places ?

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Sindragosa
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Falko wrote on 23.09.2020 at 21:48
Should it come to the garnishment, then you really have the wrong lawyer. Would be the first time I hear that the state has retained the win of someone from an online casino. Is that normal, that the lawyer still has not received access to the file? Really bad this eternally long uncertainty.

I can not tell you. As soon as I know something I write it in

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