Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

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Anonym

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18th Feb. 2022, at 11:40 pm CET#81

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As thought, the 10,000 Euro limit counts for all sales in the respective country:

https://www.awb-international.de/mai-2018/digitalpaket-bringt-vereinfachungen-bei-der-umsatzsteuer-im-elektronischen-geschaeftsverkehr

Would also be funny if it would go per person

But just ask the casinos times. Are here in the forum yes also some managers on the road

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18th Feb. 2022, at 11:57 pm CET#82

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Cona87 wrote on 18.02.2022 at 23:22
You write per person, but there is nothing about that in the quoted text. What kind of sales are you talking about?

Do you have a link to the regulation?
Found it

Does the vending machine tax fall under sales tax?

" of the (private) service recipient" ist in fact relatively simple German, can also like to say "the private gambler" when it comes to casinos.
You really don't have to be a German professor.

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19th Feb. 2022, at 12:05 am CET#83

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19th Feb. 2022, at 12:07 am CET#84

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Cona87 wrote on 02/18/2022 at 23:40: As thought the 10,000 Euro limit counts for all sales in the corresponding country:

https://www.awb-international.de/mai-2018/digitalpaket-bringt-vereinfachungen-bei-der-umsatzsteuer-im-elektronischen-geschaeftsverkehr

Would also be funny if it went per person

But just ask the casinos times. Are here in the forum yes also some managers on the road.

That is outdated. Since 1 July 2021, the legal situation is different. Has nothing to do with the gambling law, but is called One-Stop-Shop.to simplify the tax system in the EU for small amounts up to 10k annually for private service recipients.

Applying this to all customers in Germany in the case of a casino is not even possible, as gambling is still a state matter
The buddy Schröder would go completely on the barricades if his gambling tax revenues went to the federal government

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19th Feb. 2022, at 12:09 am CET#85

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19th Feb. 2022, at 05:45 am CET#86

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Justin wrote on 02/18/2022 at 11:12 PM

Absolutely no nonsense

If you sell digital goods (software, download and online apps, etc) with a foreign company in the EU to private customers in DE and a private person does not invest more than 10,000 € per year, you also do not have to pay taxes in DE, but in the country where the company is located

Quote from regulation: As far as the sales from electronic services do not exceed the threshold of 10,000 € per year, the services are taxable at the place of business of the providing entrepreneur. As soon as the threshold of €10,000 is exceeded in a calendar year, the place of performance is again based on the domicile of the (private) service recipient

This is anchored in law. In the EU, the threshold for private individuals is 10k. Unfortunately, I do not know what the situation is with your Panama company,

So what is written here in ignorance, is already violent. And to sell everything as a fact, is even worse!

The paragraph, which you cite here, is intended for LEGAL services. At the moment everything is still illegal in Germany. So already times nonsense the Paragraf. Then it takes
5min research to find out that this paragraph is not applicable to gambling. There is a list to which services it applies.

It makes perfect sense, doesn't it? If your miracle paragraph existed, the whole gambling tax reform would be moot. The casinos would rub their hands together and start suing. Have you ever heard anything like that? No? Then it looks rather bad!

I do not know how you can unsettle the community with false statements and false paragraphs here so. It costs 5min research and one knows that it is not applicable here.
Here, for the time being, §40 AO applies in conjunction with the relevant tax law.

Incidentally, this new regulation was created to dry up illegal offers and services, for example

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19th Feb. 2022, at 08:10 am CET#87

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tequiero wrote on 02/19/2022 at 05:45 PM

I don't know how false statements and false paragraphs can be used here to upset the community so much. It costs 5min research and you know that it is not applicable here.
For now, §40 AO in conjunction with the relevant tax law applies here.

Incidentally, this new regulation was created to dry up illegal offers and services, for example.

Completely correct. In Germany, even the "nice professional drug dealers" next door have already received tax assessment notices after their release. You can read all about it and it's no secret

However, there are also people like Katharina & Co. who make themselves comfortable in their accumulated ignorance instead of accepting dry facts

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19th Feb. 2022, at 08:57 am CET#88

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Cona87 wrote on 18.02.2022 at 21:03
Then I just open a company in Panama, sell my goods in DE but don't have to pay taxes like VAT?

What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

okay, a casino not only has players from germany, but also from other countries. so they pay taxes to every country?

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19th Feb. 2022, at 09:05 am CET#89

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okay, a casino not only has players from germany, but also from other countries. so they pay taxes to each country

the respective players from the different countries pay taxes, if taxes are levied on oc in their country. and this is not paid by the casino, but by the player
and this is not paid by the casino, but by the player. either by lower winning possibilities,
or a deduction on each spin

the casino pays the taxes to the respective country, and in turn pays income tax in their country,
if that is levied in malta. (if it is a malta casino).

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19th Feb. 2022, at 09:13 am CET#90

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And into which slush funds do the tax revenues actually flow?
Higher salaries for civil servants? Subsidies for companies that are close to politicians?
Or for the next prestige project?

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