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Online Casinos in general: Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos (Page 4)

Topic created on 17th Feb. 2022 | Page: 4 of 10 | Answers: 94 | Views: 17,772
Katharina2
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Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 01:58 pm CET#31
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Cona87 wrote on 17.02.2022 at 10:09 am
It's in the link above. But for you again:

"Concerns about taxing wins from crimes, the Ministry of Finance does not. There is no reason to favor criminals and leave illegal income tax-free, the ministry argues, referring to the tax code. Under the tax code, it is irrelevant for taxation purposes whether the taxpayer obtained the income or revenue by violating a law or morality."

If MGA casinos collect taxes, which was the initial statement, of course pay them to the German state. The casinos are illegal in Germany, but subject to tax. Therefore, the collection of the tax is perfectly ok.

And because you always mention it: there are no legal casinos in DE (except SH) that are licensed in Germany.

I didn't write it that way and of course in DE, already on the bank side, there is a distinction between legal and illegal. In addition to SH casinos, we have: the casinos that are considered to be provisionally, legal with the prospect of a German license (applications are available) and the completely illegal casinos. SH may not be so significant, but the group of legal and illegal is already relatively large and payment providers have their instructions on this.

It can also be inferred from the Internet that the casinos considered legal by tax number pay the tax of 5.3% from 15.8.2021.

 I already find that your link irritates.

Edit by Caro: superfluous paragraphs removed

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Katharina2
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Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 02:14 pm CET#32
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@Caro
Thanks, didn't even notice......

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Anonym

Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 02:21 pm CET#33
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Katharina2 wrote on 17.02.2022 at 13:58
I didn't write it that way and of course in DE, already on the banking side, a distinction is made between legal and illegal. In addition to SH casinos, we have: the casinos considered preliminary, legal with a prospect of a German license (applications are available) and the completely illegal casinos. SH may not be so significant, but the group of legal and illegal is already relatively large and payment providers have their instructions on this.

It can also be inferred from the Internet that the casinos considered legal by tax number pay the tax of 5.3% from 15.8.2021.

 I already find that your link irritates.

Edit by Caro: removed superfluous paragraphs

Do you have a reputable source for this as well? According to the GLL white list there are no official Online Casinos at all
https://www.gluecksspiel-behoerde.de/uebersicht-gluecksspielanbieter/whitelist

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t****o

Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 02:58 pm CET#34
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Katharina2 wrote on 17.02.2022 at 13:58
I didn't write it that way and of course in DE, already on the banking side, a distinction is made between legal and illegal. In addition to SH casinos, we have: the casinos considered preliminary, legal with a prospect of a German license (applications are available) and the completely illegal casinos. SH may not be so significant, but the group of legal and illegal is already relatively large and payment providers have their instructions on this.

It can also be inferred from the Internet that the casinos considered legal by tax number pay the tax of 5.3% from 15.8.2021.

 I already find that your link irritates.

Edit by Caro: removed superfluous paragraphs

Once again completely wrong. There are no legal casinos in Germany yet. The ones that are aimed at the future German

Rules will be tolerated. But there is a world of difference between legality and toleration.
Please do not always write such crap!

As a result, all OCs are illegal for banks, since there is no whitelist for banks to follow
could orientate themselves. And do you think that the banks inform themselves, which casino adheres to the specifications
and which not? According to the terms and conditions, any bank can kick you if you are associated with gambling,
whether legal or illegal, does not matter anyway! You are for the Risk customer, they do not have to tolerate!

It's really cruel how you misinform people here!

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Sebi123
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Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 07:46 pm CET#35
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How do you mean that you would be a risky customer for a bank if you play in an online casino?

I think as long as you do not get into the minus on your checking account you are not a Risk customer for a bank.

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WhatAboutTism
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Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 07:50 pm CET#36
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tequiero wrote on 02/17/2022 at 2:58 pm

Again, completely wrong. There are no legal casinos in Germany yet. The ones that are aimed at the future German

Rules will be tolerated. But there is a world of difference between legality and toleration.
Please do not always write such crap!

As a result, all OCs are illegal for banks, since there is no whitelist for banks to follow
could orientate themselves. And do you think that the banks inform themselves, which casino adheres to the specifications
and which not? According to the terms and conditions, any bank can kick you if you are associated with gambling,
whether legal or illegal, does not matter anyway! You are for the Risk customer, they do not have to tolerate!

It's really cruel how you misinform people here!

Finally one who gets it and also one of the few worth reading contributions on this subject here

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t****o

Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 08:11 pm CET#37
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Sebi123 wrote on 17.02.2022 at 19:46: How do you mean that one would be for a bank a Risk customer when playing in the online casino?

I think as long as you do not come into the minus on your checking account you are not a risk customer for a bank.


As far as I am informed, not everyone was in the minus who got his account canceled.

Banks think ahead. What if you are an addict or developing an addiction?
They can't ask you or ask you to fill out a health questionnaire.
They only see your account history.
And depending on the person in charge, it can come to cancellations.

So you get your account canceled, and the bank does not take any risk.
Dispo utilization, credit, private insolvency, the hickhack with chargebacks etc......
That's why most no longer play through the account.

Others, however, it has never bothered anyone until now.

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DieWunderharke5000
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Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 08:23 pm CET#38
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The reason why banks now cancel accounts or at least stop gambling is simply because, according to the new gambling treaty, they are the ones who have to pay the fat penalties if they enable payments to illegal providers


The gambler who is knee-deep in overdraft is actually the perfect customer for any bank. They pay often excessive interest and as long as their monthly salary comes in and the interest is paid, everything is tutti

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t****o

Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 08:43 pm CET#39
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DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 02/17/2022 at 8:23 PM: The reason why banks now cancel accounts or at least stop gambling is simply because according to the new gambling treaty, they are the ones who have to pay the fat fines if they enable payments to illegal providers


The gambler who is knee-deep in overdraft is actually the perfect customer for any bank. They pay often excessive interest and as long as their monthly salary comes in and the interest is paid, everything is tutti.

A gambler, who is in the Dispo, is for the bank with security no good customer, since he proved already that he is a good customer

he with its money inclusive the zocken not clear comes/handles can. Even if the minus reason is a completely different one. The
Risk goes but no bank in the long run

That may be true for non-gambling customers.

But you have the evidence here with the account cancellations.
If you believe the people, they weren't even in the red.

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Sebi123
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Legal basis for 5% tax at MGA casinos

17th Feb. 2022, at 09:52 pm CET#40
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DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 02/17/2022 at 8:23 PM: The reason why banks now cancel accounts or at least stop gambling is simply because according to the new gambling treaty, they are the ones who have to pay the fat fines if they enable payments to illegal providers


The gambler who is knee-deep in overdraft is actually the perfect customer for any bank. They pay often excessive interest and as long as their monthly salary comes in and the interest is paid, everything is tutti.

But if they enable payments means but to my knowledge if you Deposit through the bank in a casino? But I would never do but a pay only via Paysafecard Neteller Skrill but just pay out to the bank account

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