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Online Casinos in general: June is a money whore ! (Page 2)

Topic created on 23rd Jun. 2017 | Page: 2 of 4 | Answers: 31 | Views: 8,703
redriver67
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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 04:27 pm CEST#11
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Had at the slot 300 Shields yesterday in 1 hour 9 x the free spins with stakes between 25 cents - 1.25 euros. Whole 4 x I managed each of the highest level should mean that I got 12 shields or he pays x300. I did not even get a small win in the x300 free spins !!!! As I said, I made it 4 x high. That's bullshit !!!

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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 05:07 pm CEST#12
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Boah how I despise German politicians for the German players think so. Because they are responsible by the whole arcade shit for the fact that people now also think with normal gambling as if there were any general "summer holes" or general loss phases where everyone only loses and blah and blub.

People but please finally understand that a game of chance always has a negative expected value and it is therefore normal that you lose! Only because of the Variance, some win in the meantime. The Provider earns at an AQ of 95% always 5% of the stake of each spin. Even if one wins just 10k€ with a spin, then others just lose more than this calculated 5%, which is also normal because if you lose often 100% per spin. The manufacturer of the games does not care who loses how much. He always comes in the long run on the house advantage.

It simply makes no sense for a company like NetEnt to say, so now it's over, now no one wins here anymore! Now the switch is flipped! THIS THOUGHT IS SIMPLY /)$(&) §/ §/)"&$&(. It would be so incredibly stupid to do something like this.

With Novomatic and Gauselmann, I could still imagine that, because it runs evenly in play halls for decades in such a way or so similarly. Novomatic also has several platforms for the games and has partly only used them in their own OCs and that for many years without any indication of an RTP in the game rules.

In Germany's arcades, of course, can be manipulated like stupid and it is even still legal, as long as only the players are excluded and nothing is changed in the software regarding the tax levies (This is then always big in the press, as Manipulation on slot machines). The whole politicians in the Bundestag belong for what due to the gesetzes situation there everything was so perpetrated in the last decades, just locked away!

It is also a thing that the play hall company Novomatic and Gauselmann with 40% shares each can also be operators of the German play bank with the highest turnover, the Spielbank Berlin. Who is supposed to see through what is manipulated where, when and why and what not?...

So in conclusion, June is just as much of a whore as January, February (a little less so, since there are fewer days), March, April, May, July, August, September, October, November and December. But the metaphor of the whore is a good example. I've never been to one, but if I did I'd go there to have fun and not hope to get 200€ back for the 100€ I give her. People either you have fun gambling and accept that the coal in the long run is less and less. Or you should leave it.

WUSA


Edit: Had removed the text in the meantime. But since I do not think that all are like Locke2kk. Will one or the other can read the text correctly. By the way, should not be a criticism of players themselves, because I can understand that you think so because of the circumstances!


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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 05:12 pm CEST#13
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Oh ha... Tom Wegas... nice... how much money kriegste so of casinos in ass geballert? ICh my you're the only one here so talks xD... but always you claim yes nee am no Afflilate or employee... hahah....

just ridiculous what you give so of you ...

MfG

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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 05:18 pm CEST#14
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locke2kk wrote on 28.06.2017 at 17:12: Oh ha... Tom Wegas... nice... how much geld kriegste so of casinos in ass geballert? ICh my you are the only one here so talks xD.. but always you claim yes nee am no Afflilate or employee... hahah....

just ridiculous what you give so of you ...

MfG

What are you talking for a shit, in relation to what I allegedly claimed?! Do not seem to be the brightest or?

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Daniel
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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 05:35 pm CEST#15
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Well, I have to agree with TomWegas. The odds are always the same and players lose significantly more than they realize. In the minds of players, "Payout rate = 95%, so the casino must earn only 5% of all deposited funds at the end of the year". But they earn 5% per spin. And if 100 high rollers lose 10K and then never come back, it doesn't mean that then the other small players will win back the amount - 5%.

If you gamble on average with 1€ / spin, then with average luck and an AQ of 95% you will lose about 60€ in one hour. I mean 60€ per hour of play is not little. If 1,000 players in an online casino play a game and spin 1€ / spin. Then the operator at the end of the month to almost 100% probability 60,000 € in profit have earned. Among them are many players who have lost significantly more than 60€ in the hour and then a few who have won 5K with a full screen explorer.

After all, the intermediate winnings also count towards the payout percentage. AQ of 95% means that if you play an hour with 1€ and instead of 60€ you only lost 30€, you are a winner and play above the AQ even though you lost.

The bottom line is that the odds are the same in any casino at any time. Of course, there is also the personal luck factor. In the long run, everything happens. Phases where many players lose, but also phases in which more are won. But this is a natural random distribution. If you toss a coin 10,000 times in the air, it will land 5,000 times on heads and 5,000 times on tails. During these 10,000 tosses, there are also times when it lands 20 times on tails and vice versa.

But it's hard to communicate that to players. I have talked to many players (in real casinos, in gambling houses and through GambleJoe). I have also talked to Maltese players of course. But when I explain to them that it doesn't matter where I gamble, the next day they come and tell me to play this machine (it's hot) because yesterday a High Roller gambled away €5,000.

This thinking is international and for once has nothing to do with German politics. I myself sometimes even think that it must be manipulated when it goes really bad - although I know better. In gambling, there are simply many emotions (both positive and negative) and rational thinking switches off from time to time, even in the most rationally minded person.

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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 05:37 pm CEST#16
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I always find it interesting that you attack everything and everyone here and I think no one has made himself so quickly as unpopular in this forum as you.I think I speak here for so many others also, but just go back to where you came from.

haha

Oh and Daniel we really need an Ignore function..or you make a separate forum for intellectual Dünnschiss on

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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 05:57 pm CEST#17
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locke2kk wrote on 28.06.2017 at 17:37: I always find it interesting that you attack everything and everyone here and I think no one has made himself so quickly as unpopular in this forum as you.I think I speak here for many others also, but just go back to where you came from.

haha

Oh and Daniel we really need an Ignore function..or you make your own forum for intellectual Dünnschiss on

I really feel sorry for you, you have a vivid imagination, but you can't or won't read properly. And who has attacked who first, and false claims in the room puts that ask yourself maybe times! You still do not stop with it. But I do not really care what you think about me.

Only fairy tales you should not tell.

Turn on the ignore function in your head and just do not answer!

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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 06:04 pm CEST#18
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Daniel wrote on 06/28/2017 at 5:35 PM

But it's hard to get that across to players. I've talked to many players (in real casinos, in gambling houses and through GambleJoe). I've also talked to Maltese players of course. But when I explain to them that it doesn't matter where I gamble, the next day they come and tell me to play this machine (it's hot) because yesterday a High Roller gambled away €5,000.

This thinking is international and for once has nothing to do with German politics. I myself sometimes even think that it must be manipulated when it goes really bad - although I know better. In gambling, there are simply many emotions (both positive and negative) and rational thinking switches off from time to time, even in the most rationally minded person.

At real automats one can understand the part of the thinking also still. Think it was also in the past so, because there had to be money in the machine to give it out again. But here it's about Online Casinos and that's what I was referring to.

It is just very unfortunate that the separation never comes across so clearly. But that is a general problem.

What you think while playing and what you think when you look at it soberly will differ for almost everyone who gives serious thought to the subject.

I think I have also not so well brought across what I actually mean at least obviously not everything came across as it was meant

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June is a money whore !

28th Jun. 2017, at 08:52 pm CEST#19
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Tom I like you - keep writing so ... are honest statements With brain and mind! ðŸ'ðŸ"

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June is a money whore !

29th Jun. 2017, at 02:20 am CEST#20
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TomWegas wrote on 28.06.2017 at 17:07: Boah how I despise German politicians for the German players think so. Because they are responsible by the whole arcade shit for the fact that people now also think with normal gambling as if there were any general "summer holes" or general loss phases where everyone only loses and blah and blub.

People but please finally understand that a game of chance always has a negative expected value and it is therefore normal that you lose! Only because of the Variance, some win in the meantime. The Provider earns at an AQ of 95% always 5% of the stake of each spin. Even if one wins just 10k€ with a spin, then others just lose more than this calculated 5%, which is also normal because if you lose often 100% per spin. The manufacturer of the games does not care who loses how much. He always comes in the long run on the house advantage.


tomWegas that's not true because you have misunderstood something and Daniel too - That is half-knowledge from you!

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