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28th Jan. 2021, at 03:34 pm CET#41
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Kanalmalocher wrote on 28/01/2021 at 13:41
Can be a good creative solution, but can also be used as a way to cancel wins. And unlike 5 euro bet limits and banning bonus buy, this is a rule no player is used to. I'll give you autoplay, but don't press it. It's gaga. Let's see how they interpret these rules in the future
On a personal note, do you play on Jetbull and will you continue to use the "banned" features in the future?
I currently play at "Jetbull" and will continue to play there and for one simple reason - I've never had any problems there
At the end of the day, if a casino doesn't want to pay out, it usually always finds reasons not to do so
For this reason, this addition to the "Terms & Conditions" changes nothing in principle - even before it was always a game with fire
Of course, if there are reports that "Jetbull" suddenly refuses to pay out and refers to the new addition for German players, I would immediately stop playing there
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28th Jan. 2021, at 03:46 pm CET#42
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TranceBabe wrote on 28/01/2021 at 15:00
Sure the casinos that want a license have to comply. But this is more about the thread creator, putting Jetbull as a bogeyman, when that is not the case at all. Jetbull has changed the terms and we as customers are obliged to read them. It does not matter what has been changed. Unfortunately I don't have the mail anymore.
Regarding the GlücksPeter:
Well, bad luck. If he doesn't read the updated terms, despite notification, it's his own fault.
If someone does not read the Bonus terms and bets more than €1 or €5 before the bonus has been converted, then the win is also gone. Ignorance does not protect from punishment.
That is exactly the point - currently there may be a gambling law in each state, but these do not include the points listed by "Kanalmalocher"
These are only listed in the transitional regulation to the (possibly upcoming) gambling treaty 2021 and thus lack any legal basis
In addition, the gambling laws of the individual countries are not in accordance with European law - which is also the reason that we are currently still moving in a "gray area".
Current thus of valid laws, straight regarding the current changes is rather nonsensical
How it goes on will be shown in March, so that the gambling contract 2021 in June namely submitted at all as a template and then as a law could be decided, must ratify this in March at least 13 states
This means that there are still a few steps to go until we have a valid law that contains the current changes
I am and remain curious, there are still so many bodies and resolutions that could overturn everything
Last month deposited over 1k and also autostart I use permanently.
They have always paid out.
No abnormalities.
My guess is that the terms and conditions change themselves do not take so seriously and that also have only in it, if anyone (vllt of the competition?!) wants to p**s on the leg.
So people, best to leave the church in the village.
Matthlign wrote on 28.01.2021 at 15:46
That is exactly the point - currently there may be a gambling law in every state, but these do not include the points listed by "Kanalmalocher"
These are only listed in the transitional regulation to the (possibly upcoming) gambling treaty 2021 and thus lack any legal basis
In addition, the gambling laws of the individual countries are not in accordance with European law - which is also the reason that we are currently still moving in a "gray area".
Current thus of valid laws, straight regarding the current changes is rather nonsensical
How it goes on will be shown in March, so that the gambling contract 2021 in June namely submitted at all as a template and then as a law could be decided, must ratify in March at least 13 states this
This means that there are still a few steps to go until we have a valid law that contains the current changes
I am and remain curious, there are still so many bodies and resolutions that could overturn everything
Word.
I am quite confident that the industry will intervene again clearly.
As it has done for decades
You always have to remember, the people writing the laws are outside the industry and have no idea. The manufacturers are always one step ahead of them and are very creative in how to interpret laws in their favor.
Am quite confident that the industry will intervene significantly again.
As it has been doing for decades
You must always remember, the people writing the laws are outside the industry and have no idea. The manufacturers are always one step ahead of them and are very creative in how to interpret laws in their favor.
But there is also a lobby that fights for strict laws. Gambling houses are against it and casinos are also afraid of online competition. They press the tear jerker and report meticulously about the online dangers.
Those who do not gamble see gambling as a waste of time, a danger to the family, and also that people gamble away their livelihoods. It is very negatively afflicted and accordingly it is also formed legally. Politicians don't actually want to legalize it, they just want to legalize it because it can't be stopped.
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29th Jan. 2021, at 02:06 am CET#49
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Begbie wrote on 29/01/2021 at 00:58
Word.
Am quite confident that the industry will intervene significantly again.
As it has been doing for decades
You always have to remember, the people writing the laws are outside the industry and have no idea. The manufacturers are always one step ahead of them and are very creative in how to interpret laws in their favor.
Personally, I'm not even convinced that the gaming deal will happen this year
Therefore, I am surprised how quickly some casinos have allowed themselves to be pushed into a corner instead of going down just such "creative" paths
Wait and see but I also think that even some of the "way" currently gone with, already working on alternative solutions
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29th Jan. 2021, at 02:27 am CET#50
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Kleinkariert wrote on 29.01.2021 at 01:28
But there is also a lobby that fights for strict laws. Gambling houses are against it and also casinos are afraid of the online competition. There is immediately pressed on the tear gland and reported about the online dangers meticulously.
Those who do not gamble see gambling as a waste of time, a danger to the family, and also that people gamble away their livelihoods. It is very negatively afflicted and accordingly it is also formed legally. Politicians don't actually want to legalize it, they just want to legalize it because it can't be stopped.
I must correct you there once and/or twice crucially - gaming houses are national "enterprises" and thus not part of the "lobby" - in the reason even rather the problem
After all, the whole thing that is currently sold to us under "player protection", but only to secure the state lottery, as well as the state casino monopoly.
Furthermore, one wants to avoid further trouble with the EU and of course secure its not inconsiderable income from lotteries and casinos, which is why a law must be passed quickly
Which is also the only reason that the states are trying, after all these years where you could never really agree, now suddenly find a common line
So the legalization is merely for self-protection
In the end, however, we are of course again the ladder agendas - Father State once again picks out the raisins and we can do nothing but look stupid out of the laundry
If it had really been about Player protection, a limit on deposits would have been enough and I would have accepted that without complaining and grumbling.
All other measures only serve to destroy the market
Of course, you're right about the gambling houses and machine manufacturers - they like to add fuel to the fire at every opportunity
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I currently play at "Jetbull" and will continue to play there and for one simple reason - I've never had any problems there
At the end of the day, if a casino doesn't want to pay out, it usually always finds reasons not to do so
For this reason, this addition to the "Terms & Conditions" changes nothing in principle - even before it was always a game with fire
Of course, if there are reports that "Jetbull" suddenly refuses to pay out and refers to the new addition for German players, I would immediately stop playing there
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That is exactly the point - currently there may be a gambling law in each state, but these do not include the points listed by "Kanalmalocher"
These are only listed in the transitional regulation to the (possibly upcoming) gambling treaty 2021 and thus lack any legal basis
In addition, the gambling laws of the individual countries are not in accordance with European law - which is also the reason that we are currently still moving in a "gray area".
Current thus of valid laws, straight regarding the current changes is rather nonsensical
How it goes on will be shown in March, so that the gambling contract 2021 in June namely submitted at all as a template and then as a law could be decided, must ratify this in March at least 13 states
This means that there are still a few steps to go until we have a valid law that contains the current changes
I am and remain curious, there are still so many bodies and resolutions that could overturn everything
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See above. Exactly the same with me.
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They have always paid out.
No abnormalities.
My guess is that the terms and conditions change themselves do not take so seriously and that also have only in it, if anyone (vllt of the competition?!) wants to p**s on the leg.
So people, best to leave the church in the village.
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Word.
I am quite confident that the industry will intervene again clearly.
As it has done for decades
You always have to remember, the people writing the laws are outside the industry and have no idea. The manufacturers are always one step ahead of them and are very creative in how to interpret laws in their favor.
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But there is also a lobby that fights for strict laws. Gambling houses are against it and casinos are also afraid of online competition. They press the tear jerker and report meticulously about the online dangers.
Those who do not gamble see gambling as a waste of time, a danger to the family, and also that people gamble away their livelihoods. It is very negatively afflicted and accordingly it is also formed legally. Politicians don't actually want to legalize it, they just want to legalize it because it can't be stopped.
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Personally, I'm not even convinced that the gaming deal will happen this year
Therefore, I am surprised how quickly some casinos have allowed themselves to be pushed into a corner instead of going down just such "creative" paths
Wait and see but I also think that even some of the "way" currently gone with, already working on alternative solutions
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I must correct you there once and/or twice crucially - gaming houses are national "enterprises" and thus not part of the "lobby" - in the reason even rather the problem
After all, the whole thing that is currently sold to us under "player protection", but only to secure the state lottery, as well as the state casino monopoly.
Furthermore, one wants to avoid further trouble with the EU and of course secure its not inconsiderable income from lotteries and casinos, which is why a law must be passed quickly
Which is also the only reason that the states are trying, after all these years where you could never really agree, now suddenly find a common line
So the legalization is merely for self-protection
In the end, however, we are of course again the ladder agendas - Father State once again picks out the raisins and we can do nothing but look stupid out of the laundry
If it had really been about Player protection, a limit on deposits would have been enough and I would have accepted that without complaining and grumbling.
All other measures only serve to destroy the market
Of course, you're right about the gambling houses and machine manufacturers - they like to add fuel to the fire at every opportunity
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