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Online Casinos in general: Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos? (Page 4)

Topic created on 01st Jun. 2018 | Page: 4 of 58 | Answers: 573 | Views: 155,829
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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 01:27 am CEST#31
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Kanalmalocher wrote on 06/01/2018 at 23:52: LABoy90 asked for proof. No one here has provided any evidence yet. Neither in this, nor in any of the other 10,000 threads on the subject. To all who feel so passionately cheated: Show me the airtight evidence! Documents, code, anything. Or introduce us to a credible insider/whistleblower who can give substance to your speculations. And please do not let the Aluhütler hang out by simply reversing the burden of proof. In our legal system, no one has to prove innocence. The accusers have to prove guilt. So, where is the evidence?


Harsh, pithy words, but they hit the nail on the head.


Most often, the suspicion of fraud is based on "a feeling".

No one demands codes of the casino, etc., but I would be happy if the "cheated" objectively express themselves, present statistics of the sessions and formulate the arguments objectively.

Example above: "Tell us morons times [...] why you never win twice in a row"

Such a thing is not a basis for discussion.


To Samira:
You speak of patterns, what patterns do you mean? Do you have statistics to support your suspicions?


I have to agree with Kanalmalocher once again, once again the sleight of hand is used to turn the burden of proof around.
Imagine you could imprison people without evidence like in the darkest times in Germany and to get free these people would have to prove their innocence.

What is striking is that people contradict each other with their approaches, initially you almost always win in a casino, you can take advantage if it were true, but no one does because there is nothing to it.

I am open to debate but you only need to look at the first page, insults and personal attacks, ridicule, these are stylistic devices that are taken to expand weak arguments.


Who has proof that European licensed Online Casinos cheat?


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Anonym

Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 01:46 am CEST#32
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Already wrong! LABoy90 - I never said that you do not win a 2nd time . I emailed why you can lose 5- 7 months , or longer , but never win over such a period . Why not, if everything is a coincidence . I myself have never experienced it, and I have never heard or read that others had the luck. And now you may explain to me with pleasure the term - coincidence -! Thank you

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 01:51 am CEST#33
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Sigura43 wrote on 02.06.2018 at 01:46: Already times wrong! LABoy90 - I never said you can't win a 2nd time . I emailed why you can lose 5- 7 months , or longer , but never win over such a period . Why not, if everything is a coincidence . I myself have never experienced it, and I have never heard or read that others had the luck. And now you may explain to me with pleasure the term - coincidence -! Thank you

Because the mathematical probability to lose 5-7 months at a time is much higher than to win as long as? Coincidence yes, but no 50:50 chance? Tell me how do you actually imagine gambling? Deposit 50€ and get out with 5.000€ at every second try and the casinos think "well now we have paid out 25.000.000€ to players again but the 150 employees and office space and server costs we pay somehow"? There is a whole industry behind it, which lives well from it. You will lose if you play. Just because you have the chance to win once in a while doesn't mean that gambling is somehow a fair level playing field. There is a house edge and, with the exception of the big Jackpot winners, that is reflected in every single player. If you don't get that then stop gambling because you're not doing yourself any favors, you're beating yourself up and that's all.

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 01:56 am CEST#34
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Sigura43 wrote on 01/06/2018 at 19:59: On the other hand, 'winning ' over more than 1- 2 days is not possible ( if at all ) .

That still sounded different here, Sigura.

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2nd Jun. 2018, at 02:12 am CEST#35
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Smooth 6 - bones! over which period you calculate the AQ of - let's say 95% . Over 25 years ? And then correctly not even for each player. What I have deposited in Online Casinos, you will probably never Deposit in your life . It is true that even if you deposit large sums, this does not guarantee a win. But if I have paid in over 3 - 4 years derbe, me sometime the 'luck' could be held. Or am I then of all things the unlucky one of the whole world ? Then I have real respect! And the logic I do not get. I have not heard of anyone that he was only a winner for months. And the probability is not there anyway. You say. Is it still possible? Then don't talk about coincidence, which basically doesn't exist

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 07:12 am CEST#36
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I have never won at the 1 to 3 deposit.I play for 7 years.I can imagine if there really would be fraud would have long since someone blabbed.See swiss bank.If someone cracks the Jackpot eg .5000000 euros must come from somewhere.I have often won amounts over 1000 euros, was then too greedy and it was all gone.If I play for a long time with very small stakes I win more.

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 08:53 am CEST#37
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However, the problem is often that small profits are not paid out. (Do not take myself out of it). If I e.g. 50 euros Deposit and have sometime 60 euros there, that's 20% win. You don't get that at any bank these days.

Of course, I have also had zero rounds. However, if I had always consistently paid out wins, I would be much less in the red.

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 08:59 am CEST#38
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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 10:41 am CEST#39
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Mombasa wrote on 02.06.2018 at 08:59:

This is a curacaocasino, Daniel warns strongly and repeatedly not to play at such sites, in Europe Curacao is also not relevant for this thread so.

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Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos?

2nd Jun. 2018, at 10:53 am CEST#40
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LABoy90 wrote on 02.06.2018 at 10:41
This is a curacaocasino, Daniel warns strongly and repeatedly not to play at such sites, in Europe is also not Curacao for this thread so not relevant.

This is now again somewhat double standards, it is finally about who the game is offered and not in which casino you play Also, not all Curacao casinos are cheats.

I know myself unfortunately with Blackjack not very well and do not know which Provider that was. Netent or Evolution probably not? I also do not want to watch an hour-long video of a guy playing blackjack so maybe someone can enlighten me how the fraud takes place?

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