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Online Casinos in general: Is there evidence of fraud in online casinos? (Page 30)

Topic created on 01st Jun. 2018 | Page: 30 of 58 | Answers: 573 | Views: 152,377
Begbie
Elite
Sure, anything is possible.
But you can't really compare the automotive industry with the gambling industry.
While the former is the darling of the government(s), the latter is the nasty wart on the ass that nobody likes.
That is to say, there is hardly any industry where the government authorities look so closely and deny approvals even at the slightest misconduct. The PTB is really very strict and precise with gambling providers, who would immediately recognize dubious or illegal code.
There is no cheating in the individual slots, if there is cheating or influence, then globally via the player accounts.

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upola
Legend
Ajajme wrote on 29.07.2020 at 12:22 pm: May I tell you my personal opinion on this subject, they can do there on Malta what they want, it itches absolutely no one, and you also notice zb. As a High Roller that you get after 5000 Deposit without free spins sometime something, but this is not nearly as much as you have deposited, there are exceptions where you suddenly get out of nowhere fat sums, but in my opinion, the whole online casino thing which takes place in such small offices in Malta is just lug and fraud, I think there just wash many criminals their money as owners of so-called online casinos. You see here constantly also high winning pictures but if you do not get out in time, your life is f**ked.
Leave the fingers of all the shit then you're better off.

Peace

At 5000 euros no free spins, sorry but I do not believe it.

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Anonym
upola wrote on 29.07.2020 at 16:36
At 5000 euros no free spins,sorry but I do not believe that.

If he spins on 50 euros, that would not be a problem. At 5 euros per spin - depending on the game - already more difficult, but also not impossible

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upola
Legend
Yes, you're right, it occurred to me after sending.
However, there are not so many who use 50 euros per spin.

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v****2

blackmamba wrote on 07/29/2020 at 2:22 pm

So in VW's case, the car's software detected whether it was in a testing situation and
then followed the American emission limits accordingly. You have to imagine this
Cleverness and also criminal energy on the course melt let.
During the journey it looked completely different. It came out rather by chance, because it was checked during the drive, which is
Which is absolutely uncommon. Therefore, the software also did not recognize the test situation.

So if a car manufacturer manages to do this, and it only comes to light by chance, then it will be a provider/casino,
which in principle only work virtually or with software, will be able to do it easily.

So a certification is everything, but not safe. I don't think there is 100% security anywhere anymore, otherwise
you would have to stand next to it day and night. And even then they would still manage to cheat.

Katharina is not so wrong. Why don't the providers run a casino or several directly?
I believe that the more people and institutions are involved, the more difficult it is to prove possible fraud
Fraud, because everyone shifts the blame to others, and so a completely opaque network comes to light
comes to light. And of course, no one wants to have known anything about it. The casinos say that they get the data from the
Providers, and have nothing else to do with it. The providers say that everything is clean as far as we are concerned. If, the casino makes
does some bad things. Then the documents are gone, and some poor b*****d has to take the fall.
Who doesn't know this from fraud cases?

I remember darkly that the TÜV, knows only no more which federal state, a bridge in believe Brazil
has accepted and released, which collapsed shortly thereafter. May simply not happen. And if it happens, are presumably funds
flowed......

oh thank you blackmamba an excellent example of a successful company

which already earns a lot of money but still pulls off such a century long scam for the simple reason
for the simple reason that it is too greedy for money and wants to skim even more.

to the question why the providers do not offer their products exclusively in their own casinos
but simply rents them out.
the answer is obvious...first of all the providers pass on the Risk of bankruptcy to the online casino operators
online casino operators. the second reason is surely that with a distribution of the games to thousands of
online casinos a volume can be achieved to which the providers alone would never be able.
in other words, profit maximization without major risks.

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A****e
upola wrote on 29.07.2020 at 16:36
At 5000 euros no free spins,sorry but I do not believe that.

But there was that at spins with 5 euro, 8 euro and in the end on 20 euro 🤷

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Anonym
mowolum wrote on 07/28/2020 at 03:06 PM

How do you know all this, did you read this somewhere, or from where.

Can it be that you have lost, perhaps not a little, and now your frustration here?
The luck can not be manipulated,
it is called perhaps by chance gambling?

No, I have no debts by playing. Only I am 8 years casual players in Online Casinos and I have noticed things in all these years. And since I have good PC and program knowledge and can count 1 times 1 together I have dadrauf come. I have once won at a casino 1200€ at Rise of Merlin and afterwards no matter at which casino I have logged in nothing more came. I tried it out of suspicion. Because I noticed certain things. If I have won at Play'n go were afterwards All Slots of play'n go no matter where I played closed. There were only scam free spins or even nothing more, not even free spins for deposits. And that's why my suspicion has hardened that the IP addresses and win and loss of the respective Provider is stored by the system to decimate the win payout. And I could even swear that it goes like this. Of course there can be other reasons. But for me personally it is glass clear.

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Begbie
Elite
vomvom12 wrote on 07/29/2020 at 17:25

oh thank you blackmamba an excellent example of a successful company

which already earns a lot of money but still pulls off such a century long scam for the simple reason
for the simple reason that it is too greedy for money and wants to skim even more.

to the question why the providers do not offer their products exclusively in their own casinos
but simply rents them out.
the answer is obvious...first of all the providers pass on the Risk of bankruptcy to the online casino operators
online casino operators. the second reason is surely that with a distribution of the games to thousands of
online casinos a volume can be achieved to which the providers alone would never be able.
in other words, profit maximization without major risks.


The German manufacturers also offer their products themselves. Offline, for example, Gauselmann in the gaming arcade. Even online, Gauselmann or a subsidiary operates a site, merkur24.de, although still with play money, but when the market is regulated, it may well be that a real money casino is offered
The rest is done through licenses, which probably generates more money on the bottom line.

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killabees
Rookie
Arab201 wrote on 29.07.2020 at 22:18
And that's why suspicion has hardened with me that the IP addresses and win and loss from the respective Provider is stored by the system to decimate the win distribution.

You always hold on to IP storage.
My strong suspicion is rather a complete profile storage. Everyone has an ID number
In this profile all data is stored, from personal data, IP, betting levels to playing behavior etc. All of this is done automatically.

Why many are winning when they register at a new casino? They have not yet been assigned to their ID. Run thus NOCH neutral and therefore on a higher RTP.


Why I still play despite this assumption? Because I'm not quite right tick and finally want to have something back from my losses. The typical addict
I rarely find the payout button.
I also think that the ID profile doesn't care if I pay out or not. It only cares about the RTP.

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Anonym
killabees wrote on 07/29/2020 at 23:07
You guys always hold on to IP storage like this.
My strong guess is more like complete profile storage. Everyone has an ID number
In this profile all data is stored, from personal data, IP, bet levels to gameplay etc. All of this is done automatically.

Why many are winning when they register at a new casino? They have not yet been assigned to their ID. Run thus NOCH neutral and therefore on a higher RTP.


Why I still play despite this assumption? Because I'm not quite right tick and finally want to have something back from my losses. The typical addict
I rarely find the payout button.
I also think that the ID profile doesn't care if I pay out or not. It only cares about the RTP.

Very good theory and I totally subscribe to it too! That's how it will work and if it does I don't even think it's a bad thing

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