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cbz490

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27th Jul. 2020, at 02:26 pm CEST#274

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blackmamba wrote on 07/27/2020 at 12:58 PM

Thanks, for the compliment. I can only return it, though. I think you can definitely be factual with 2 different

Argue with two different opinions. I don't like it when you always just scream evidence, or take everything as the casinos
say that.
Had this written before: I do not want to stop anyone from gambling. I have myself long enough. But since my mistrust
became bigger and bigger, you have to be consistent and stop. Otherwise it is really hirnrissig.

I would just like to make you think. All the information we have comes from the casinos themselves or from players with experience
with experience. Alone the fact that casinos so in the dark wursteln, should give one to think. Likewise, that the casinos
themselves say that everything is fair and secure, but can not or will not prove anything.

And there must be a protection, or it can not depend only on luck.
A casino must protect itself. Otherwise I open a new one, 100 Highroller come and play with their 50-100€, everyone wins
80.000€, because everything depends on luck, and the casino is broke.
Believe, each entrepreneur would protect itself against such a thing! Would it really only depend on luck, would have to actually much
more casinos go broke. And the big ones in the industry, there seems to be even more wrong. How else can you get so big in a
luck-based game become so large?

But enough of that, we are repeating ourselves and going around in circles. Let everyone gamble or not gamble, as he likes!

Well, they have secured in which you limit the payouts to eg 5000 € the week, until then, the 80 k are also back in it just so

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Toomy5000

Forum posts: 1 Member since: 31.07.2019

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27th Jul. 2020, at 03:08 pm CEST#275

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Hello,
I am quite new. Play since ca2017 on the Internet and have so my favorites already discovered. I have also already won the one or other time. A few hundred euros I would have paid out quite uncomplicated. But what struck me now so in this time, is the fact that if I had Zb. Ca300 euros on the account, I thought there is still what. A day times waited and again weitergespiel. Unfortunately a total loss. But it has system. I always win an amount of about 300 or 400 euros. Start the one attempt to make more of it, but it always comes out to the same result. Total loss. How can this be? As if they flip a switch and nothing works more. That can not be it. Always the same. Nothing more comes. No matter which machine I try. Nothing more comes. Who has had the same experience? This really has a system with them and playing is no fun anymore. Yesterday I still had 200euro plus on my account. Now it is only 70euro and no matter what I do, it only goes down.... Write me your experiences
Greetings tom

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Anonym

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27th Jul. 2020, at 03:24 pm CEST#276

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blackmamba wrote on 07/27/2020 at 12:58 PM

And there has to be a safeguard, or it can't just depend on luck.
A casino has to protect itself. Otherwise I reopen, 100 highrollers come and play with their 50-100€, each wins
80.000€, because everything depends on luck, and the casino is broke.
Believe, each entrepreneur would protect itself against such a thing!

Unfortunately, you still have not understood. From the 100 Highrollern wins at most one acceptable sum. The rest unfortunately comes away empty-handed. But this is still not due to the casino or the Provider, but to the software of the respective game

Apart from that, you can only open a casino as a private person with the necessary capital. Thus, you could also pay out a good win to, for example, 50 high rollers

And still yes: It is not dependent on luck for the casino, but exclusively for you as a player

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zocker0815

Forum posts: 911 Member since: 21.10.2019

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27th Jul. 2020, at 03:45 pm CEST#277

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Toomy5000 wrote on 07/27/2020 at 15:08: Hello,
I am quite new. Playing since ca2017 on the internet and so have already discovered my favorites. I have also already won the one or other time. A few hundred euros I would have paid out quite uncomplicated. But what struck me now so in this time, is the fact that if I had Zb. Ca300 euros on the account, I thought there is still what. A day times waited and again weitergespiel. Unfortunately a total loss. But it has system. I always win an amount of about 300 or 400 euros. Start the one attempt to make more of it, but it always comes out to the same result. Total loss. How can this be? As if they flip a switch and nothing works more. That can not be it. Always the same. Nothing more comes. No matter which machine I try. Nothing more comes. Who has had the same experience? This really has a system with them and playing is no fun anymore. Yesterday I still had 200euro plus on my account. Now it is only 70euro and no matter what I do, it only goes down.... Write me your experiences
Greetings tom

sounds stupid to me was just like you have always deposited around 100 and the highest I had managed since the winter were 600 otherwise with 100 as with you 200-400 then everything down or paid out

only I have now broken in July have played a lot with bonus and could pay out about 3000 see my pictures

try to play with bonus in my opinion run (if you're lucky the slots better) but watch out for the rules and the casino you want to Deposit in

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b****a

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27th Jul. 2020, at 04:12 pm CEST#278

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Jokerboy wrote on 27.07.2020 at 15:24
Unfortunately you still don't get it. Out of the 100 highrollers, at most one wins a decent amount. The rest, unfortunately, go away empty handed. But that is still not due to the casino or the Provider, but to the software of the respective game

Apart from that, you can only open a casino as a private person with the necessary capital. Thus, you could also pay out a good win to, for example, 50 high rollers

And still yes: It is not dependent on luck for the casino, but exclusively for you as a player.

If it's the software of the slot, then it's probably the provider who programs the things, right?

In that sense, you yourself admit that casinos protect themselves so that this never happens, and larger sums have to be paid out
have to be paid out, which puts the casino in extreme distress.
From the theory all Highroller could have luck at once, and then?
Exactly, it doesn't happen, because it has been programmed that way. And therefore it has zero to do with luck.
If casinos go bankrupt, the providers lose their customers, and also the MGA, which collects a lot from the licenses
the licenses. So it's not in anyone's interest for something like this to happen. They are all attached to the cow.

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. It's programmed luck. Once you're selected,
win, and don't ever play again

But correctly said: For the casino, this has nothing to do with luck!

@cbz

can still come out quite a large sum, if that are several!

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upola

Forum posts: 4.278 Member since: 17.05.2018

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27th Jul. 2020, at 04:59 pm CEST#279

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Toomy5000 wrote on 07/27/2020 at 15:08: Hello,
I am quite new. Playing since ca2017 on the internet and so have already discovered my favorites. I have also already won the one or other time. A few hundred euros I would have paid out quite uncomplicated. But what struck me now so in this time, is the fact that if I had Zb. Ca300 euros on the account, I thought there is still what. A day times waited and again weitergespiel. Unfortunately a total loss. But it has system. I always win an amount of about 300 or 400 euros. Start the one attempt to make more of it, but it always comes out to the same result. Total loss. How can this be? As if they flip a switch and nothing works more. That can not be it. Always the same. Nothing more comes. No matter which machine I try. Nothing more comes. Who has had the same experience? This really has a system with them and playing is no fun anymore. Yesterday I still had 200euro plus on my account. Now it is only 70euro and no matter what I do, it only goes down.... Write me your experiences
Greetings tom

You always win 3-400 euros, and complain that you do not win more?
Are you serious now?

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27th Jul. 2020, at 05:02 pm CEST#280

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blackmamba wrote on 27/07/2020 at 16:12
If it's the slot's software, then it's probably the Provider who programs these things, right?

In that sense, you yourself admit that casinos hedge so that this never happens, and larger sums have to be
have to be paid out, which puts the casino in extreme distress.
From the theory all Highroller could have luck at once, and then?
Exactly, it doesn't happen, because it has been programmed that way. And therefore it has zero to do with luck.
If casinos go bankrupt, the providers lose their customers, and also the MGA, which collects a lot from the licenses
the licenses. So it's not in anyone's interest for something like this to happen. They are all attached to the cow.

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. It's programmed luck. Once you're selected,
win, and never play again

But correctly said: For the casino, this has nothing to do with luck!

@cbz

can still come out quite a large sum, if that are several!

Programmed luck in the long run always to the disadvantage of the players. Fraud is not that nevertheless, but pure coincidence also not!

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T****s

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27th Jul. 2020, at 09:18 pm CEST#281

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Chillaqueen92 wrote on 27/07/2020 at 17:02
Programmed luck in the long run always to the disadvantage of the players. Nevertheless, this is not fraud, but pure coincidence also not!

jo has always been so, otherwise casinos and Online Casinos could not exist.

you either play or leave it

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crystal_machmeth

Forum posts: 337 Member since: 17.10.2019

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27th Jul. 2020, at 11:07 pm CEST#282

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Tobias wrote on 27.07.2020 at 21:18
jo has always been like this, otherwise casinos and Online Casinos could not exist.

either you play or let it stay

but after a few months of loss, you must also have the guarantee to reduce its loss by a win again

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Kleinkariert

Forum posts: 1.676 Member since: 18.03.2019

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28th Jul. 2020, at 01:49 am CEST#283

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Chillaqueen92 wrote on 27/07/2020 at 17:02
Programmed luck in the long run always to the disadvantage of the players. Nevertheless, this is not fraud, but pure coincidence also not!

It is chance in a given framework, you will lose on average and also in most cases. You finance the big wins of a few people and you are usually not one of them. If you play very often and for a long time you will hardly be able to get into the plus. Also, the RTP of, for example, 96% does not say very much except that the slot gives out that on average. And here already the simple questions begin before one can go deeper, on which period of time, does that apply to the slot itself and is that per casino or for all casinos together, etc.? There are questions like the distribution of the wins not even clarified, you could also program a slot so that there are only two levels (distribution) either 0x or 20,000x is. How many dead spins do you think would have to come for 20,000x? At least 20,834 dead spins to fund something like this and in reality there will be a standard deviation and that means some will get the win after e.g. 10,000 dead spins and others only after 35,834 dead spins.

This is the same with <Wie oft kommen Freispeiel>and the Provider gives average every ~170 spins and then one gets annoyed and says he didn't get any the last 1000 spins. How is that within the limits? Can the deviation be so extreme? Without distribution, you can't even begin to check something like that. Before I talk about fraud, I talk about suspected fraud because I can not yet prove it. Now the casinos are located in Malta and the MGA doesn't give a shit about that. Therefore, we can only trust that it is true and continue to play or question that and not play until clarification. If it works out with the regulation then DE will also check and monitor such processes, but whether you feel safer? I think not, because also DE will <Geldwäsche>have</Geldwäsche> like the MGA the eyes only on the money flows and the. <Geldwäsche>The players are completely indifferent, which one takes rather the fun than to really protect them. So that they also feel really dirty when losing money.

I am therefore not of the opinion that there is fraud, but that there can be it of course like everywhere. But it is not proven in this case and currently can not be proven by us. I think in gambling both positive and negative statements always difficult to classify. If one loses very much one is immediately and says that everything is fraud and finds patterns and remembers many things, but if one wins then one hardly worries about such things. While some describe experiences why it is fraud, others describe experiences or indications why it is not. For example, why do some casinos let people win and then not pay out? Why do they let a person win so high in the first place if that is easily controllable? Are these all mistakes or special tactics? Now the argument would come at the place with it the person thereby still more addicted becomes and all the more everything gambles. And this chain goes on endlessly. Another topic is the fraud that is practiced daily through bonus rules and terms and conditions, but here it is currently about the software.

In short
So you can represent both sides and still sleep at night with a clear conscience. No one is the fool here, everyone can form their own opinion. There was plenty of both parties in this thread and probably this will continue. In this sense, I hope that everyone can exchange what he wants without turning the words of the other.</Geldwäsche></Wie>

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