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Online Casinos in general: is there cheating in wagering?

Topic created on 22nd Aug. 2018 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 14 | Views: 9,864
bruffl
Expert
Hi,

i have played with bonus more often, it usually seemed so eternally long,
have always believed that there is something not right.
I have now made a test yesterday, I had to convert a total of 1200 €.
Yesterday against 18h I stood at 90%. Means so still 120€.
I have played exclusively Gun` Roses, 20cent stake.
Have always set autoplay, so per 50 spins 10€ turnover.
Would have needed 12x50 spins to meet the bonus requirements.
After the 600 spins I was still at 97% on the bonus.
Where is the error here? The game is also definitely rated at 100% there.
Hale the casino for absolutely serious, have you already made similar experiences?

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sippi
Expert
I have also noticed this. In some casinos, it feels like nothing happens when you want to convert the bonus (for a slot rated at 100%). Even if you stop playing and later look in again if something has happened, usually nothing happens - it could have been that this is not displayed in real time. So it was last week at LeoVegas (at least I think it was the casino). Gaaanz slowly has filled the bonus bar. In contrast Sunday the free spins at NetBet, 5.xx € won, 40x convert, their bar was in real time. At the end then 87 € can be paid out.

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Sascha666
Amateur
I have never noticed that the wagering is slower than it should be. Pay attention to it.
What I have noticed, however, is that the game can be completely different with activated bonus.
Sure, there is luck and bad luck. But such extremes, occurred several times, are just ridiculous.
I Deposit with bonus, get within 10 minutes a 800x or 1000x win.
800€ on the speedometer, you think: can hardly go wrong.
Now the famous switch goes on and absolutely nothing works, no matter in which game.
At the end of the wagering I end up, and partly to the euro exactly, with my input amount.
Must be quite a coincidence if you have 1200€ converted, right?

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ruhrpott
Expert
I rather feel that it is going faster than I actually thought it would....

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LittleFu
Amateur
Some casinos simply put a lower percentage of your bet on wagering on certain slots.
There is a method to this. For example, some casinos put 50% on the most popular slots like Reactoonz or Book of Dead and others
Some casinos set a general percentage of 50% on All Slots, except their own.

All already experienced. An example Karamba.
I have also noted here:
https://www.askgamblers.com/casino/karamba-casino-review-r4331


Another "popular" method of casinos:
The wagering also refers to your Deposit!
So x25 wagering, suddenly become x50.

I would still much more Blacklist all, which because of unfair AGB or because of
attempted deception in bonus conditions, the players rip off.

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upola
Legend
I also play at Karamba from time to time.
The bonus condition is 35X bonus.
Wins from free spins X35.
Wins from free spins without Deposit X50.

There are games like in any other casino that do not count towards wagering the bonus.
That now the slots count only 50%, I can not confirm.

And if in a casino the bonus and deposit X25 must be converted, it is in every reputable casino in the conditions.you do not have to accept the conditions if you do not like them.

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LittleFu
Amateur
What are you talking about?!

Karamba`s Wagering List:
http://download.gamesrv1.com/Resources/External/bonusterms/tc_ger.html

To be found at:
https://de.karamba.com/info/bonus-policy/#/Section1
Paragraph 5.

And to apply the turnover conditions to the real money is simply unserious.
I reject such offers as a matter of principle.

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upola
Legend
In fact, you can see that I've never paid attention to it, because I have often played the bonus free.

And if you do not like the conditions, it is your right to refuse.

But I would not see that as a deception, because it is always there in most reputable casinos.

Of course, you have to read the conditions, which I have not done in the case.


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bruffl
Expert
so, must me also once again to speak.
at the said casino, which I otherwise consider absolutely serious, fast payouts......
stands in the bonus conditions nothing of any games that count only to a certain percentage.
If you have time and desire is that with autospins of 100 games or so, yes quite quickly to check....

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upola
Legend
I didn't know it either.
But look here.
http://download.gamesrv1.com/Resources/External/bonusterms/tc_ger.html
https://de.karamba.com/info/bonus-policy/#/Section1

That's why I still think the casino is serious...have always received my money so far, even if it took a while.

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