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Online Casinos in general: Is it really all just coincidence? (Page 8)

Topic created on 12th Mar. 2018 | Page: 8 of 24 | Answers: 238 | Views: 63,282
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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 12:41 pm CET#71
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I have as I said, more than 50000! Euro lost . In total in many casinos, over about 3 years . At first I had the feeling that everything is fair . Wins, like losses - I had a good feeling . Both balanced out somehow. I can also live with that . Also with it, if in the end the casino wins anyway . For about 1-2 years nothing works . Everything seems staged . Everything is just not random . If you write to the casinos, constantly cheap answers . Everything is pure coincidence . With the next Deposit bonus . It's like, keep paying in, sometime you win 100 euros. Quite honestly, I have no more Bock on it. OC casinos are great. But if you only get screwed, it's a burden!

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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 01:04 pm CET#72
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Sigura43 wrote on 21/03/2018 at 12:41 pm: I have as I said more than 50000! Euros lost . In total in many casinos, over about 3 years . In the beginning I had the feeling everything is going fair . Wins , like losses - I had a good feeling . Both balanced out somehow. I can also live with that . Also with it, if in the end the casino wins anyway . For about 1-2 years nothing works . Everything seems staged . Everything is just not random . If you write to the casinos, constantly cheap answers . Everything is pure coincidence . With the next Deposit bonus . It's like, keep paying in, sometime you win 100 euros. Quite honestly, I have no more Bock on it. OC casinos are great. But if you only get screwed, it's a burden!

Then stop probably best, eh the losses are even greater?

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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 01:37 pm CET#73
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I also believe more and more that something is being recorded here. I'm also a little lost the desire. Have previously played largely in the Microgaming download casinos, often Casino Rewards. They were mostly serious, but the payout with 48 hours (over the weekend even longer), was disastrous. Played only since 3 months more often via the flash versions, consequently had many casinos where I could claim the welcome bonus. I won a total of around 15000 EUR in the first month (so not all at once, all together). Out of about 15 casinos, I had a payout in 10. The 15000 EUR were gradually bet again and again... You just think wrong, think, oh what works once works again... here times 20, there 50, there 50, again 50. How stupid you have to be. Since I can no longer claim the Welcome bonus, nothing works, but nothing at all. No matter if 20 cents or 2 EUR, sometimes around 1000 spins at BoD or Bonanza without free spins. Or 300 shields, shields without end, but not even get to level 2...
What was interesting, I had locked myself at Wunderino once a month. Weekend was free again. 10 EUR pure, BoD, free spins, free spins, free spins, a total of 100 EUR won. Paid out ready. Normally, at least for me, they had always paid out quickly (2-24 hours). But this time?? Very long delayed and as everyone knows, then you reverse it after a while. 100 EUR on the account, played further, nothing... money gone...

And what made me wonder again yesterday, I'm currently playing mainly at Videoslots and Sportingbet, because they are blazing fast in the payout. 2x20 in there, 2x20 in there... Nix...

Then I had a bonus at Astralbet. 30 EUR purely... Zack free spin, again and again. 150 EUR in total. Over Videoslots, 20 in, nix. Sportingbet nothing. Astralbet free spins. Up to 250 EUR, ran constantly, suddenly abort. Nothing more. This time I thought at 200, because of, I play not down, but cool times

Out of the net, back on at noon today. 20 cents, BoD, 100 spins, free spins A, total profit was probably 1.60 eur... another 100, nothing, another 100 nothing... now I'm at 150, still have to convert about 200. Let's see where it runs out.

It all just looks funny. The one or the other wins guaranteed times, also ne tidy sum. But probably only to show, hey, you can win to then lose everything again in the end.

And how often have you had that with 20 euros deposited immediately came what? Counter question at the same time, how often have you had that only at the end, so to speak, at the last minute something came? So with me very often. Because it triggers in the psyche, it goes nevertheless which... plays one then down on 0 pays one rather again than if one comes immediately from 20 on 50. At least that's how it is for me. If I pay 20, lose to 1, win 10 and lose to 0, then the chance of a new Deposit is guaranteed higher.

And no one can tell me that everything is correct... January to mid-February outstanding, with others hardly what goes... since the end of February is pulled the plug... sporadically here times what, but hardly what Auszahlungsfähiges...

If I calculate, first registration:

Betsafe win: 3000 Euro
Since then without payout deposited about 4000 euros.

Mobile machines: 2000 Euro
Since then without withdrawal 1000

Videoslots: 1000 Euro
Since then without payout 2000 Euro

Sunnyplayer: 800 Euro
Since then definitely 3000 Euro, but with several small payouts

Playojo: 20 Euro in, 200 Euro with the first spin back then, played ten minutes and cashed out.
Since then definitely 500 euros (always 20 euros deposited), I think I have not even had a free spin anywhere since then.

Wixstars: Record winnings just under 6000 euros.
Since then, another 1000 euros in and nothing. Also, I do not like to play there, delay the payout so raus I find.

And many many other smaller amounts deposited elsewhere.

Sunmaker, bwin, comeon, Mobilebet and how they are called, everywhere I would still have smaller payouts, but since then is also there nix to get.

If it was at least a little, ratio 1000 euros deposit, 500 euros out. But it is yes ne 1000 to zero bill. And so much bad luck can have neither I nor others, without that everything goes with right things.

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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 01:54 pm CET#74
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I am a realist without end. If you win, someone in the system has ripped off. So, and not otherwise

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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 02:48 pm CET#75
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With how often you play and how high the amounts are that is no wonder

Yes it's true usually comes at the beginning of what (of which I always let cancel payout and annoy me to death that it is gone) but blame yourself

Or at the last minute and you think juhu either get out or gone again


I agree with that

Only your amounts and the frequency of playing are proven to be doomed to failure

Try to play only in one or two (better of course not at all) and lock the rest e.g. 6 months

The 50,000 you do not get back and if you get it again it lands in the course of time anyway again in it

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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 02:51 pm CET#76
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Sigura43 wrote on 21/03/2018 at 13:54: I am a realist without end. If you win, someone in the system has ripped off. That way, and no other way

Ne quite so I do not believe it. I am also sure that one or the other can win a really good sum (which I already have myself). And they have to let you win, otherwise nobody would play anymore. But their software doesn't seem to be stupid, they seem to know exactly how you play. I can see it in myself (and how stupid I am). If I win 1000 EUR here, what do I do with the money? First of all it is paid out. What do I do second? I remember where I won how much and when. So I put in 100 EUR. Does not work?? Again... and again... That I have paid after 2 months probably 2000 EUR, until I get times again 500 EUR out, one does not see at all. But that's probably the way it's meant to be. Because they know that the 500 + x disappear again in their machines. How many of us have ever had a Big Win? Probably everyone. How many still have some left? Probably none. It is probably really the art to stop when it is best, but unfortunately only a few manage that

I am still of the opinion that with bonus or as a new player not only a little, but significantly more is paid out. Therefore, I would be interested in the RTP statistics, how the players who have been playing longer

Probably newly signed up bonus eligible players have an RTP of well over 100 or pretty close to it. I feel like my odds are at 50% right now. Ask customer service what your rate was last month? I did it once at Lapalingo and Sunmaker. But I only had 3,4,5 deposits of 20 EUR each within 4 weeks. At Lapalingo (which is in my opinion with Drückglück the worst casino), I had something (do not laugh) with 15%. At sunmaker, the unfreundlche lady did not want to tell me right at first, or has played dumb, no idea. Until she then said, I would be far above average with something 98%. Only after I said, I would like not the total rate, but that of February and not since the registration, she has come out with the value of something with 60%. Such an "actual state" is certainly more interesting to hear, but it seems to me that they do not want to say.

The OC don't cheat, at least not in such a way that they don't let anyone win at all. But whitewashing statistics or even knowing that the quota as a regular player moves down significantly, they know that for sure. It's just that no one says so.

And they also know that with a bonus you will be diverted, so to speak. And do you know what and why you can see this quite clearly? The 5 EUR rule. Why else should there be one? It would be fast earned money for the casino. Pay 100 EUR, get 100 EUR bonus, 2 minutes, 20 spins, I'm out. I have ALWAYS played my initial phase so, 100% bonus claimed, between 50 and 100 deposited, BoD, 50 spins with 2-5 EUR and off went the wild ride. Either then came to 70% a free spin with really good wins or but with the subsequent manual press. I can only think of Lapalingo and Drückglück, where this did not work. Otherwise always. And I was daily over 1000 EUR, you can believe that or not. Did fall again at some point with most of them, but I had fun playing and sometimes more, sometimes less remained to pay out. If I could, I would have played this even with 10 EUR-20 EUR, and I bet there would have been some firecrackers.

And for comparison without bonus, after I won some, I often deposited 200 EUR without bonus. Betsafe was really bad. Monday 200 EUR in, 50 spins with 4 EUR. Nothing. Tuesday 200 EUR in, 50 spins with 4 EUR. Wednesday 200 EUR, 50 spins with 4 EUR, etc. Partly I was after the 50 spins even under 10 EUR, that is, it came almost not even a small win. Had then times after ner weeks about contact with the chat, whether there is something broken. But my odds were well above 100%, so why I complain then. Had I not locked me now even for a month, probably would have gone until today so

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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 02:59 pm CET#77
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Many lie to you. Believe it

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Is it really all just coincidence?

21st Mar. 2018, at 03:22 pm CET#78
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Sigura43 wrote on 03/21/2018 at 2:59 pm: Many lie to you . Believe it

Already, who is not lied to nowadays. But if you say, 50,000 EUR lost in the years, is already a lot. You are just in the case probably ne lucrative source of money for the casinos. They are all connected somewhere.
I know that you put yourself in a mania, habs even exaggerated a bit and the last few weeks played way too much. Have me simply blinded. That comes certainly still with it to collect losses again. Therefore, also very important, Deposit limits set or immediately times block. Have me now also so undertaken. Before everything is fully gone from my "golden" month, rather budget 20, 30, 50 EUR set. And then really only in 2-3 casinos let me look. As I said, Sportingbet and Videoslots, as well as NY Spins are so fast, because you can cancel almost net so fast as the money transfer. And what you have on the account is not quite as fast as when you can pay something back. The ones that pay out really fast are probably at least the ones where you are lied to and cheated the least. Because there you do not even come in the loss phase on stupid ideas to cancel the payment

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Is it really all just coincidence?

22nd Mar. 2018, at 07:13 am CET#79
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That can be yes but only because an online casino example casinoclub which are also fast building numbers serious I deal for years with online and real casinos even if you Deposit piece by piece takes you every casino the money slowly from the trixen all even in the Live Casino is stripped to 100% you have a groupier who throws well you have no chance the Dragonara casino you can also forget always the same numbers

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Is it really all just coincidence?

22nd Mar. 2018, at 11:39 am CET#80
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Sigura43 wrote on 21/03/2018 at 12:41 pm: I have as I said more than 50000! Euros lost . In total in many casinos, over about 3 years . In the beginning I had the feeling everything is going fair . Wins , like losses - I had a good feeling . Both balanced out somehow. I can also live with that . Also with it, if in the end the casino wins anyway . For about 1-2 years, nothing goes. Everything seems staged . Everything is just not random . If you write to the casinos, constantly cheap answers . Everything is pure coincidence . With the next Deposit bonus . It's like, keep paying in, sometime you win 100 euros. Quite honestly, I have no more Bock on it. OC casinos are great. But if you only get screwed, it's a burden!

you do not think seriously that if you write to an oc and think it can not all be coincidence that the you then disclose their current methods

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