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Is it really all just coincidence?
13th Mar. 2018, at 11:27 pm CET#31
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I compare price fixing with the basic greed of companies,
to generate more and more money, because they can't get their hands full.
Cheating doesn't really make sense, because the Risk of being discovered at some point is relatively high,
is relatively high. They earn enough as it is, and still they cheat.
I hope that this explanation is enough now.
Logical thinking and Mangement 1. apprenticeship year!
It is technically possible to adjust the odds as well as the settings, who wins when and how much,
or to influence them.
I have said it here before: if even the German bank is hacked, that
Pentagon, the German government, then it would not be so difficult for experienced
IT technicians of the casinos, something regulating to intervene
Who checks that then? Malta? The MGA?
Ever held a printout of the server in your hand?
Do you have so much IT knowledge that you can make theories here, everything would be bombproof?
Can't the manufacturer also change the payment screw for larger payments?
Who is supposed to notice and realize that?
There are enough who always say, everything is luck and coincidence.
So you don't even have to explain yourself as casinos. How convenient.
Again, that casinos win in the long run, I know myself. But they win with cheating
many times over. And since humans naturally do not get their necks full, they also cheat there
there cheated.
I am sure that the majority of the technology is manipulated or equipped with partly inferior
inferior materials, that they are defective after 2, 3 years.
Some are also lucky and it lasts even longer.
But these theses are proven. And yes, I believe that almost everyone is involved.
High hits come in predominant number with smaller stakes.
This can be easily proven by the winning videos and pictures.
Also there is for sure a "protection device", which keeps the wins with high stakes
in the framework holds. And sure, there are occasional outliers, but absolutely minimal.
But I also don't care at all, to end the topic. I have stopped gambling for a
I stopped gambling a year ago. You gamble your money away, I don't care
Believe in the virgin Mary called online casino, I also do not care.
In this sense.....
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Is it really all just coincidence?
13th Mar. 2018, at 11:57 pm CET#32
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Just to give my two cents again.
I do not believe that Online Casinos cheat individual people because they do not like the nose.
But first, I'm sure that they can generally set something: today is larger but less paid out, today are only smaller wins, but paid out more often.
And the second that the machines with bonus are configured differently.
Otherwise, the gameplay might be identical in two, maybe in three, but in ten, fifteen, twenty?
Wins are always possible, but while they are extremely difficult with deposits without Bonuses, they are much more frequent with bonuses. Has the additional effect that the RTP value is improved. So statistically casinos, slots, players besse stand there.
Are all just theories of mine, my impressions, but that so many have made the same experiences with bonuses, but reinforces the assumption that it can go legally, but I'm not so wrong and a gschmäckle bleit
stkrie wrote on 13/03/2018 at 23:27
It is technically possible to adjust the odds as well as the settings of who wins how much and when,
to adjust or influence.
that's how it looks. i'm itching to post a screenshot but unfortunately i'm not allowed to...
but your statement is 100% true.
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14th Mar. 2018, at 12:09 am CET#34
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To get to the point
A) you feel cheated then don't play where you think you will be cheated
B) the casino cheats? Then don't play where you think you will get cheated
Is actually quite simple
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Is it really all just coincidence?
14th Mar. 2018, at 12:37 am CET#35
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@Cuddle
No, it's not about the nose either, that will be some kind of random generator.
Technically no problem at all.
@dome
that's why I stopped completely a year ago.
I do not think that this is limited to individual casinos.
My only point is that there are always people who claim that in OC
everything is controlled and not cheated. where do they get this information from?
I personally find that simply naive.
Especially on the Internet or in the IT industry, anything is possible. And that even without
great effort. Nobody has insight into the servers
And even if they do, no one knows whether they are still the originals or unedited.
And a lot of money is made
The OC are actually quite antisocial, one experiences daily at the bonus rules and AGB`s.
That is already legal fraud.
How much money is then only made with real fraud?
And how should that come out? The servers are somewhere in the nowhere.
The Casnos deny any guilt and refer to the servers.
If they are exceptionally ordered to pay by the MGA, they pay, and the
they pay, and the hustle and bustle continues.
And here almost everyone says that everything has to do with the quota and with luck.
It is the perfect system. They don't even have to justify themselves
If players lose hundreds of Euros in a row,
that's just bad luck. All the more Jackpot winners and high wins are hyped up.
Pretty meager for tens of millions of players around the world
I am always asked why OC should cheat? The answer is totally simple,
to cash in even more. For the same reason that in other areas
it is always about money. And everyone always wants more!
@Begbie
I'm sure you do
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14th Mar. 2018, at 03:16 pm CET#36
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stkrie wrote on 03/14/2018 at 00:37 PM
That OC are actually quite antisocial, one experiences daily at the bonus rules and AGB`s.
That is already legal fraud.
How much money makes then only with real fraud?
That's why I always read through the bonus conditions, since I read that with VIKS. How good that I have never deposited there before
Otherwise, I actually quite like to play with bonus. Because simply my personal impression is that it pays out better. And since some time also no longer the full bonus. If it should go "fast", I think to myself, BoD 20 Spins with 1 EUR and I have by chance nen 100% bonus, then I take the claim. So I lose practically only 1 EUR, but can win with 2 EUR. And it came there really increased to the free spins, in which was also often paid correctly. Since I am then still quite far away to meet the turnover requirements, I can be brave, often goes then really still really good. Only at some point just no longer, then is in All Slots a cut...
I had just now again at Sportingbet, but they do not have these extreme turnover conditions. There was then peak times 850 EUR, then went down to 650. After everything was cleared, I'm always between 600 and 700 rumgedümpelt. It was relatively constant. But what is again such a small coincidence, it came at 6 slots, between which I switched, every now and then a free game or a 10 EUR win purely shot. This went on for about 3 hours. At some point it was too stupid for me, so checkout -> pay out -> 600 EUR -> rest were still 90 on it
I didn't do anything different than before, played BoD with 20-30 cents, Shields with 25 cents, Pink Elephant with 10 cents, Bonanza with 20 cents, Jack and the Beanstalk with 20 cents, DoA with 27 cents... I didn't change my gameplay at all, but nothing came up. No more free spins, no more wins over 2 EUR... It's all in my head, of course, but after I cash out, the payout changes. It doesn't matter if I keep playing or take a break for three days. It does not mean that I have not been able to make further payouts afterwards, but 90% of the time nothing adds up. Of course I'm the idiot, why do I keep playing when I know that it will probably end up the same way. But that knows yes probably almost everyone here, the prospect of even higher wins drives one
This is not necessarily a reproach to all Online Casinos, this will be a general problem about a central server that recognizes such things. And I also believe that individual casinos can not influence this. What makes a casino are fair bonus conditions, fast payouts and good support. For everything else, a "higher power" is probably responsible
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14th Mar. 2018, at 03:59 pm CET#37
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If you want to win again, you have to play games you have never played before
I keep statistics about all activities. What is extremely striking with me, is that I could achieve my highest wins in almost ALL games right at the first attempts, of course with Bonus money and as a new customer! But that is vllt again all just coincidence at least it has worked with me yesterday once again excellent. If your standard games do not want to do anything after the usual "new customer rtp-rig", try it with any games that you have never touched. It makes (mMn much too often to be able to be coincidence) the impression as if the providers are fighting with very great wins for the new customers.
To the question why jemad plays, if he means to be cheated:
People play because they like to do it or are simply addicted. Only when playing they notice certain peculiarities, which they then express in forums to stimulate an exchange of experiences and to see if others have made the same strange experiences. Only when meeting like-minded people, the impression of "getting screwed" manifests itself
So it's just phases that someone goes through. And those who stimulate the discourse here are just in the phase of questioning. But the game continues to be played, because the people who think they are being cheated will be terribly happy to be convinced of the opposite. Secretly, they also hope that it is just a coincidence!!!!
I can only advise everyone to continue to pursue their convictions (no matter what they are) and not to be misled.
P.S.: The conviction of the individual that everything is just a scam is in the end the strongest existing weapon against Gambling addiction!!!! That's why I'm not going to talk anyone out of these thoughts. But that's just by the way....
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14th Mar. 2018, at 04:23 pm CET#38
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the3rdscatter wrote on 03/14/2018 at 3:59 pm: If you want to win again, you need to play games you've never played
I keep stats on all activities. What is very noticeable is that I could achieve my highest wins in almost ALL games right at the first attempts, of course with Bonus money and as a new customer! But that is vllt again all just coincidence
You, I give you completely right. )) Somehow Bonanza has passed me by all the time. As written, yesterday registered with Sporting Bet (which, by the way, are mega fast, after half an hour you could no longer cancel, after an hour was the money via PayPal there) and played on it. On Bonanza I also only came because it was here in the forum also times thematisiert and that often no free spins come
I first session, good wins (the diamonds completely), but no free spins. Logged out, logged in, 20 cents, 25 spins, free spins... Good win... Logged out, logged in, 40 cents, 25 spins, free spins. Won just over 100 EUR. Now the slot probably knows me too well, has since then actually wanted to pay nix. But for starters, your Tip is certainly not the wrong way.
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14th Mar. 2018, at 04:49 pm CET#39
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Somehow funny nä
with me it was yesterday Wolfgold and Wild Spell from Pragmatic Play
Have played this Provider for the first time and BANG...... it hails Bonuses of all kinds with at least decent wins.
Had at Wolfgold in the free spin the whole wolf in the middle and two small wolves on the first reel (around 160x for the single image, 200x win in the entire free spin). About 10-15 spins later there is the other bonus where you can win the jackpots with about 100x win! Question to all who play the game regularly: How often does this happen?
I could bet that I never get something like this on the slot again....
Of course, this does not always work, but I can only give everyone the Tip to try this, if it does not run on the Liebklingsspielen times again.
Do you know what the biggest problem is? People tend to see patterns in things that do not exist.
Each of you probably knows this, the machine sucks you from 20€ down to 5€ (gives really modest) and then there are free spins. Often you think then directly (oh they do not give anyway, the machine does not run) and often (but not always!) it is then also so. But this is not because the machine has not given until then, but that the probability that the machine is not so well paid free spins is higher than that he gives well paid free spins.
And herewith we come back to the topic of pattern recognition. Humans learn from mistakes and therefore try to reproduce where these mistakes come from. Losing money is associated with negative emotions, so in the end it means a mistake.
The brain tries to recognize a pattern to prevent the mistakes in the future. Now the brain stores this very behavior from the machine and you tend to change the slot if it does not "give" for a long time.
On the other hand, just yesterday I made another experience. I was down to 1,60€ and turned further to 60 cents, suddenly 300x free spins. Nothing given, really apart from a few cents over 20 euros across and then within a few minutes raised the Deposit by the 6x.
Each spin by itself has the same probability of making a big win. I always try to approach gambling rationally, even if it is very difficult for myself. I have been playing in Online Casinos for about 5 years and can understand your thought processes, but they are definitely not provable! Equally nonsensical is the statement that when registering or using a bonus he gives better at the beginning. On the contrary, my biggest win I could drive within 3 days in the same casino. From 50€ Deposit to a total of 22,000€ worked up. Over several days and many many hours of play.
However, the brain remembers negative emotions rather than positive ones, in order to prevent exactly these again! That's why negative experiences are more likely to stay in your head than positive ones.
I believe here less in Manipulation, conspiracy theories or the like. But only in the protective mechanisms and ways of thinking of our extremely complex brain.
Is it really all just coincidence?
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to generate more and more money, because they can't get their hands full.
Cheating doesn't really make sense, because the Risk of being discovered at some point is relatively high,
is relatively high. They earn enough as it is, and still they cheat.
I hope that this explanation is enough now.
Logical thinking and Mangement 1. apprenticeship year!
It is technically possible to adjust the odds as well as the settings, who wins when and how much,
or to influence them.
I have said it here before: if even the German bank is hacked, that
Pentagon, the German government, then it would not be so difficult for experienced
IT technicians of the casinos, something regulating to intervene
Who checks that then? Malta? The MGA?
Ever held a printout of the server in your hand?
Do you have so much IT knowledge that you can make theories here, everything would be bombproof?
Can't the manufacturer also change the payment screw for larger payments?
Who is supposed to notice and realize that?
There are enough who always say, everything is luck and coincidence.
So you don't even have to explain yourself as casinos. How convenient.
Again, that casinos win in the long run, I know myself. But they win with cheating
many times over. And since humans naturally do not get their necks full, they also cheat there
there cheated.
I am sure that the majority of the technology is manipulated or equipped with partly inferior
inferior materials, that they are defective after 2, 3 years.
Some are also lucky and it lasts even longer.
But these theses are proven. And yes, I believe that almost everyone is involved.
High hits come in predominant number with smaller stakes.
This can be easily proven by the winning videos and pictures.
Also there is for sure a "protection device", which keeps the wins with high stakes
in the framework holds. And sure, there are occasional outliers, but absolutely minimal.
But I also don't care at all, to end the topic. I have stopped gambling for a
I stopped gambling a year ago. You gamble your money away, I don't care
Believe in the virgin Mary called online casino, I also do not care.
In this sense.....
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I do not believe that Online Casinos cheat individual people because they do not like the nose.
But first, I'm sure that they can generally set something: today is larger but less paid out, today are only smaller wins, but paid out more often.
And the second that the machines with bonus are configured differently.
Otherwise, the gameplay might be identical in two, maybe in three, but in ten, fifteen, twenty?
Wins are always possible, but while they are extremely difficult with deposits without Bonuses, they are much more frequent with bonuses. Has the additional effect that the RTP value is improved. So statistically casinos, slots, players besse stand there.
Are all just theories of mine, my impressions, but that so many have made the same experiences with bonuses, but reinforces the assumption that it can go legally, but I'm not so wrong and a gschmäckle bleit
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that's how it looks. i'm itching to post a screenshot but unfortunately i'm not allowed to...
but your statement is 100% true.
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A) you feel cheated then don't play where you think you will be cheated
B) the casino cheats? Then don't play where you think you will get cheated
Is actually quite simple
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No, it's not about the nose either, that will be some kind of random generator.
Technically no problem at all.
@dome
that's why I stopped completely a year ago.
I do not think that this is limited to individual casinos.
My only point is that there are always people who claim that in OC
everything is controlled and not cheated. where do they get this information from?
I personally find that simply naive.
Especially on the Internet or in the IT industry, anything is possible. And that even without
great effort. Nobody has insight into the servers
And even if they do, no one knows whether they are still the originals or unedited.
And a lot of money is made
The OC are actually quite antisocial, one experiences daily at the bonus rules and AGB`s.
That is already legal fraud.
How much money is then only made with real fraud?
And how should that come out? The servers are somewhere in the nowhere.
The Casnos deny any guilt and refer to the servers.
If they are exceptionally ordered to pay by the MGA, they pay, and the
they pay, and the hustle and bustle continues.
And here almost everyone says that everything has to do with the quota and with luck.
It is the perfect system. They don't even have to justify themselves
If players lose hundreds of Euros in a row,
that's just bad luck. All the more Jackpot winners and high wins are hyped up.
Pretty meager for tens of millions of players around the world
I am always asked why OC should cheat? The answer is totally simple,
to cash in even more. For the same reason that in other areas
it is always about money. And everyone always wants more!
@Begbie
I'm sure you do
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That's why I always read through the bonus conditions, since I read that with VIKS. How good that I have never deposited there before
Otherwise, I actually quite like to play with bonus. Because simply my personal impression is that it pays out better. And since some time also no longer the full bonus. If it should go "fast", I think to myself, BoD 20 Spins with 1 EUR and I have by chance nen 100% bonus, then I take the claim. So I lose practically only 1 EUR, but can win with 2 EUR. And it came there really increased to the free spins, in which was also often paid correctly. Since I am then still quite far away to meet the turnover requirements, I can be brave, often goes then really still really good. Only at some point just no longer, then is in All Slots a cut...
I had just now again at Sportingbet, but they do not have these extreme turnover conditions. There was then peak times 850 EUR, then went down to 650. After everything was cleared, I'm always between 600 and 700 rumgedümpelt. It was relatively constant. But what is again such a small coincidence, it came at 6 slots, between which I switched, every now and then a free game or a 10 EUR win purely shot. This went on for about 3 hours. At some point it was too stupid for me, so checkout -> pay out -> 600 EUR -> rest were still 90 on it
I didn't do anything different than before, played BoD with 20-30 cents, Shields with 25 cents, Pink Elephant with 10 cents, Bonanza with 20 cents, Jack and the Beanstalk with 20 cents, DoA with 27 cents... I didn't change my gameplay at all, but nothing came up. No more free spins, no more wins over 2 EUR... It's all in my head, of course, but after I cash out, the payout changes. It doesn't matter if I keep playing or take a break for three days. It does not mean that I have not been able to make further payouts afterwards, but 90% of the time nothing adds up. Of course I'm the idiot, why do I keep playing when I know that it will probably end up the same way. But that knows yes probably almost everyone here, the prospect of even higher wins drives one
This is not necessarily a reproach to all Online Casinos, this will be a general problem about a central server that recognizes such things. And I also believe that individual casinos can not influence this. What makes a casino are fair bonus conditions, fast payouts and good support. For everything else, a "higher power" is probably responsible
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I keep statistics about all activities. What is extremely striking with me, is that I could achieve my highest wins in almost ALL games right at the first attempts, of course with Bonus money and as a new customer! But that is vllt again all just coincidence at least it has worked with me yesterday once again excellent. If your standard games do not want to do anything after the usual "new customer rtp-rig", try it with any games that you have never touched. It makes (mMn much too often to be able to be coincidence) the impression as if the providers are fighting with very great wins for the new customers.
To the question why jemad plays, if he means to be cheated:
People play because they like to do it or are simply addicted. Only when playing they notice certain peculiarities, which they then express in forums to stimulate an exchange of experiences and to see if others have made the same strange experiences. Only when meeting like-minded people, the impression of "getting screwed" manifests itself
So it's just phases that someone goes through. And those who stimulate the discourse here are just in the phase of questioning. But the game continues to be played, because the people who think they are being cheated will be terribly happy to be convinced of the opposite. Secretly, they also hope that it is just a coincidence!!!!
I can only advise everyone to continue to pursue their convictions (no matter what they are) and not to be misled.
P.S.: The conviction of the individual that everything is just a scam is in the end the strongest existing weapon against Gambling addiction!!!! That's why I'm not going to talk anyone out of these thoughts. But that's just by the way....
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You, I give you completely right. )) Somehow Bonanza has passed me by all the time. As written, yesterday registered with Sporting Bet (which, by the way, are mega fast, after half an hour you could no longer cancel, after an hour was the money via PayPal there) and played on it. On Bonanza I also only came because it was here in the forum also times thematisiert and that often no free spins come
I first session, good wins (the diamonds completely), but no free spins. Logged out, logged in, 20 cents, 25 spins, free spins... Good win... Logged out, logged in, 40 cents, 25 spins, free spins. Won just over 100 EUR. Now the slot probably knows me too well, has since then actually wanted to pay nix. But for starters, your Tip is certainly not the wrong way.
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with me it was yesterday Wolfgold and Wild Spell from Pragmatic Play
Have played this Provider for the first time and BANG...... it hails Bonuses of all kinds with at least decent wins.
Had at Wolfgold in the free spin the whole wolf in the middle and two small wolves on the first reel (around 160x for the single image, 200x win in the entire free spin). About 10-15 spins later there is the other bonus where you can win the jackpots with about 100x win! Question to all who play the game regularly: How often does this happen?
I could bet that I never get something like this on the slot again....
Of course, this does not always work, but I can only give everyone the Tip to try this, if it does not run on the Liebklingsspielen times again.
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Do you know what the biggest problem is? People tend to see patterns in things that do not exist.
Each of you probably knows this, the machine sucks you from 20€ down to 5€ (gives really modest) and then there are free spins. Often you think then directly (oh they do not give anyway, the machine does not run) and often (but not always!) it is then also so. But this is not because the machine has not given until then, but that the probability that the machine is not so well paid free spins is higher than that he gives well paid free spins.
And herewith we come back to the topic of pattern recognition. Humans learn from mistakes and therefore try to reproduce where these mistakes come from. Losing money is associated with negative emotions, so in the end it means a mistake.
The brain tries to recognize a pattern to prevent the mistakes in the future. Now the brain stores this very behavior from the machine and you tend to change the slot if it does not "give" for a long time.
On the other hand, just yesterday I made another experience. I was down to 1,60€ and turned further to 60 cents, suddenly 300x free spins. Nothing given, really apart from a few cents over 20 euros across and then within a few minutes raised the Deposit by the 6x.
Each spin by itself has the same probability of making a big win. I always try to approach gambling rationally, even if it is very difficult for myself. I have been playing in Online Casinos for about 5 years and can understand your thought processes, but they are definitely not provable! Equally nonsensical is the statement that when registering or using a bonus he gives better at the beginning. On the contrary, my biggest win I could drive within 3 days in the same casino. From 50€ Deposit to a total of 22,000€ worked up. Over several days and many many hours of play.
However, the brain remembers negative emotions rather than positive ones, in order to prevent exactly these again! That's why negative experiences are more likely to stay in your head than positive ones.
I believe here less in Manipulation, conspiracy theories or the like. But only in the protective mechanisms and ways of thinking of our extremely complex brain.
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