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Is it really all just coincidence?
13th Mar. 2018, at 02:49 pm CET#21
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Lapppalo wrote on 13/03/2018 at 13:04: What seems strange to me, when I sign up in a casino new I often get lucky and win something and then suddenly it's like cut off. For me this is no longer a coincidence because it just happened too often.
Yes, that's exactly what I mean... I used to play in relatively few casinos, there were 6-7 bad ones in a month and one decent day. Had then registered with sunmaker, Welcome bonus claimed. Book of Dead, 2 EUR spins, free spins... Further boldly played and it just ran once. At some point I was on 1500 EUR, half of the turnover requirements played through. And then went nothing more... The good thing was, I had won so much that I could pay out 800 EUR in the end. sunnyplayer was similar... But my remaining sum was significantly lower... Karamba identical, 600 EUR can be paid out, Wixstars I was even at 8000 EUR and then dropped down to 5000 EUR
I find Betsafe awesome. With welcome bonus came to 3000 EUR payout, I even managed to cash out. That was about 4 weeks ago. I have subsequently but deposited at Betsafe again and again without bonus. Again and again 50 EUR, certainly around 10-15x... I have never come over 100 EUR. The same with mobile machines, Videoslots, etc... With DrückGlück and Ikibu I have never been lucky, even with bonus.
The only casinos where I got more than one payout so far was Sunmaker, Sunnyplayer, Wunderino (I find them quite good, even if many say the opposite) and NY Spins. All, but really all the others, have paid once and never again
I am therefore also very sure that when I sign up, the casino thinks, "Ui, a new player... Dem we have to show that you can also win here. If he loses on his first few spins, he'll never come back. So we give him food first. And then up to a certain point. At some point there's a stop, but not in terms of the slot, but in terms of the player. That's why what Begbie said above probably sums it up best. It doesn't matter what slot is played. No one is going to pay anything anymore. I had tried it again at Bwin. In no time I was on 800 EUR. Then came ne time long a normal series, again +/- 50... Sometime only minus. I usually play a mixture of 300 Shields, Book of Dead and Bonanza. When there was nothing more, I tried all possible slots. In the first 3-4 spins I got something good, but nothing excessive, after that nothing at all. With all... keep short in mood, then pay nothing more. The end of the story is, the people come back, because you have seen in the first minutes of play that what is possible... That the game without the welcome bonus but is a completely different, you do not even realize
The best proof of this is VIKS. Why do they have such stupid bonus rules? Surely for this very reason. Because they know that a different payout table applies to the bonus.
I was lucky with all my payouts, that I risked at the beginning and then had so much in my account, that it was enough for the turnover requirements. But with almost all of them I lost half of the maximum again. Or I "had" to, otherwise I would never have come to the payout phase.
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13th Mar. 2018, at 04:56 pm CET#22
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Except at cherrycasino (10 freespins without Deposit with 1.50 win on 700 euros high) I have never won NEW on the contrary I have at StarGames and SuperGaminator exactly 300 on several deposits over a long time only had profits
Sunmaker and sunnyplayer have almost half a year only eating
Quasargaming a year after several deposits suddenly with 11 euros deposit on well over 5000
I guess I am the opposite case
At stake7 never won and since betreiberwechsel I no longer play because nothing came at all more
Platin Casino also reingebuttert and then later came times what. The only casino what still has favorite games next to Lapalingo but since I zock no longer like the load not
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13th Mar. 2018, at 06:57 pm CET#23
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I recommend everyone here to read through this article. The very first question should answer everything
Sure, Gamble Joe is all-knowing.
Hammerdammer, such nonsense.
If they want to cheat, they will do it, no matter what
what Gamble Joe writes.
So some....
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13th Mar. 2018, at 09:44 pm CET#25
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What I have to ask myself here is, if you feel cheated, why do you
do you play in Online Casinos at all?
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13th Mar. 2018, at 09:51 pm CET#26
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tby333 wrote on 03/13/2018 at 9:44 pm: What I have to wonder here, if you feel cheated, why
are you guys playing at Online Casinos in the first place?
Yeah I wonder the same thing....^^
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13th Mar. 2018, at 09:56 pm CET#27
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tby333 wrote on 03/13/2018 at 9:44 pm: What I have to wonder here, if you feel cheated, why
are you guys playing at Online Casinos in the first place?
I always ask myself the same question
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13th Mar. 2018, at 10:21 pm CET#28
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stkrie wrote on 03/13/2018 at 21:31
Sure, Gamble Joe is omniscient.
Straw man. No one has claimed that.
If they want to cheat, they'll do it, regardless
what Gamble Joe writes.
If that were the case
A: Why are there players who win millions of jackpots? Or as often mentioned here in the forum high 6-digit sums from small 20-50 euro deposits when all want to cheat?
B: If you have valid evidence and proof for your theses, then please present them. So you would represent yourself more credibly. So it only comes across like a conspiracy theory text. Of course Gamblejoe doesn't know everything, but seen on the masses it is logical how casinos act and how the machines are built.
C: What I would like to deny me now by no means even after long consideration......
So some...
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Is it really all just coincidence?
13th Mar. 2018, at 10:39 pm CET#29
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Just look at all the cartels that have made price agreements.
Cars, food, technology that breaks down after the warranty....
But of course, the Online Casinos are completely clean, and of course there is no cheating
of course not cheated.
If I had proof, you would have known that long ago.
It goes without saying that they occasionally raushauen high wins or jackpots,
for the sake of credibility alone. However, how you conclude from this that they are not
is cheated, is a mystery to me
And the few pictures with mostly low stakes and around 100x rather prove my theory
my theory.
Absolutely naive, especially online casinos.
What I can not deny myself now at all:
So some......
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13th Mar. 2018, at 11:11 pm CET#30
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stkrie wrote on 03/13/2018 at 22:39: Just look at all the cartels that have done price fixing.
Cars, food, tech that breaks after warranty....
But sure, Online Casinos of all things are completely clean, and there is
of course not cheated.
You compare price fixing with online gambling so...
Do the casinos want to collude the amount of free spins in a day or the RTP?
Are now all car manufacturers cheaters or food manufacturers or technick based stores? No!
There are casinos that cheat with fake software, non-existent or bad licenses, etc. You have this in every industry no matter which one we are talking about. Nevertheless, you can not assume a general fraud from all to all.
If you read the article: How do payout ratios work
, then you would know why casinos always win in the long run, even without manipulation. If the customer base is large enough, then no one needs to cheat. Think from a logical point of view, not from a pessimistic one.
That now and then times high wins or Jackpots raushauen, understands itself probably,
alone because of the credibility.
In what way should you understand this statement? really read through the articles again then you have the real reason why some win and others do not.
However, how you conclude from this, that not
is not cheated, is a mystery to me.
Think logically.
And the few pictures with mostly low stakes and around 100x prove rather
my theory.
In what way please? If you play on small stakes then you also win of course here and there 100x stake win "little pictures"
If you only play high stakes like Matthias for example, then the same "pictures" also come on high stakes. What exactly and especially how do you want to prove something?
Absolutely naive, especially online casinos
Common business model. I don't see any naivety on the part of the online casino here
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Yes, that's exactly what I mean... I used to play in relatively few casinos, there were 6-7 bad ones in a month and one decent day. Had then registered with sunmaker, Welcome bonus claimed. Book of Dead, 2 EUR spins, free spins... Further boldly played and it just ran once. At some point I was on 1500 EUR, half of the turnover requirements played through. And then went nothing more... The good thing was, I had won so much that I could pay out 800 EUR in the end. sunnyplayer was similar... But my remaining sum was significantly lower... Karamba identical, 600 EUR can be paid out, Wixstars I was even at 8000 EUR and then dropped down to 5000 EUR
I find Betsafe awesome. With welcome bonus came to 3000 EUR payout, I even managed to cash out. That was about 4 weeks ago. I have subsequently but deposited at Betsafe again and again without bonus. Again and again 50 EUR, certainly around 10-15x... I have never come over 100 EUR. The same with mobile machines, Videoslots, etc... With DrückGlück and Ikibu I have never been lucky, even with bonus.
The only casinos where I got more than one payout so far was Sunmaker, Sunnyplayer, Wunderino (I find them quite good, even if many say the opposite) and NY Spins. All, but really all the others, have paid once and never again
I am therefore also very sure that when I sign up, the casino thinks, "Ui, a new player... Dem we have to show that you can also win here. If he loses on his first few spins, he'll never come back. So we give him food first. And then up to a certain point. At some point there's a stop, but not in terms of the slot, but in terms of the player. That's why what Begbie said above probably sums it up best. It doesn't matter what slot is played. No one is going to pay anything anymore. I had tried it again at Bwin. In no time I was on 800 EUR. Then came ne time long a normal series, again +/- 50... Sometime only minus. I usually play a mixture of 300 Shields, Book of Dead and Bonanza. When there was nothing more, I tried all possible slots. In the first 3-4 spins I got something good, but nothing excessive, after that nothing at all. With all... keep short in mood, then pay nothing more. The end of the story is, the people come back, because you have seen in the first minutes of play that what is possible... That the game without the welcome bonus but is a completely different, you do not even realize
The best proof of this is VIKS. Why do they have such stupid bonus rules? Surely for this very reason. Because they know that a different payout table applies to the bonus.
I was lucky with all my payouts, that I risked at the beginning and then had so much in my account, that it was enough for the turnover requirements. But with almost all of them I lost half of the maximum again. Or I "had" to, otherwise I would never have come to the payout phase.
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Sunmaker and sunnyplayer have almost half a year only eating
Quasargaming a year after several deposits suddenly with 11 euros deposit on well over 5000
I guess I am the opposite case
At stake7 never won and since betreiberwechsel I no longer play because nothing came at all more
Platin Casino also reingebuttert and then later came times what. The only casino what still has favorite games next to Lapalingo but since I zock no longer like the load not
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https://www.gamblejoe.com/ratgeber/online-casinos-faq/
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Hammerdammer, such nonsense.
If they want to cheat, they will do it, no matter what
what Gamble Joe writes.
So some....
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do you play in Online Casinos at all?
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Yeah I wonder the same thing....^^
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I always ask myself the same question
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Straw man. No one has claimed that.
If that were the case
A: Why are there players who win millions of jackpots? Or as often mentioned here in the forum high 6-digit sums from small 20-50 euro deposits when all want to cheat?
B: If you have valid evidence and proof for your theses, then please present them. So you would represent yourself more credibly. So it only comes across like a conspiracy theory text. Of course Gamblejoe doesn't know everything, but seen on the masses it is logical how casinos act and how the machines are built.
C: What I would like to deny me now by no means even after long consideration......
So some...
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Cars, food, technology that breaks down after the warranty....
But of course, the Online Casinos are completely clean, and of course there is no cheating
of course not cheated.
If I had proof, you would have known that long ago.
It goes without saying that they occasionally raushauen high wins or jackpots,
for the sake of credibility alone. However, how you conclude from this that they are not
is cheated, is a mystery to me
And the few pictures with mostly low stakes and around 100x rather prove my theory
my theory.
Absolutely naive, especially online casinos.
What I can not deny myself now at all:
So some......
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You compare price fixing with online gambling so...
Do the casinos want to collude the amount of free spins in a day or the RTP?
Are now all car manufacturers cheaters or food manufacturers or technick based stores? No!
There are casinos that cheat with fake software, non-existent or bad licenses, etc. You have this in every industry no matter which one we are talking about. Nevertheless, you can not assume a general fraud from all to all.
If you read the article: How do payout ratios work
https://www.gamblejoe.com/ratgeber/spielautomaten-auszahlungsquote/
and: How does a Slot machine work
https://www.gamblejoe.com/ratgeber/spielautomaten-funktionsweise/
, then you would know why casinos always win in the long run, even without manipulation. If the customer base is large enough, then no one needs to cheat. Think from a logical point of view, not from a pessimistic one.
In what way should you understand this statement? really read through the articles again then you have the real reason why some win and others do not.
Think logically.
In what way please? If you play on small stakes then you also win of course here and there 100x stake win "little pictures"
If you only play high stakes like Matthias for example, then the same "pictures" also come on high stakes. What exactly and especially how do you want to prove something?
Common business model. I don't see any naivety on the part of the online casino here
Did I forget something? ...
Achjaaaa!!!
So some......
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