Is it really all just coincidence?

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12th Mar. 2018, at 07:04 pm CET#11

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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 03/12/2018 at 6:59 pm

is similar when you play 4 different games at the same time. if fs come on one there are fs on at least one more at the same time

That's exactly how I see it though

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12th Mar. 2018, at 07:10 pm CET#12

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yggdrasil wrote on 03/12/2018 at 18:37: What you describe is the norm. Even though the slots should be randomly operated and they are supposedly controlled by authorities, they work anything but randomly. What the providers trick the beginner or casual gambler with, the "pro" can use to his advantage, but also not without having to mentally cope with big losses every now and then. Whether a slot is in a giving mood can be tested out with a few spins, but you have to keep in mind that different bets influence the behavior of the slot. However, if the machine has not paid out a substantial win after a 10-20 euro bet, the slot is dead for today. But that brings us to the problem. You may test 10 different slots in a row without finding one that is in a giving mood. With that you would already have a loss of 100-200 euros with testing alone, which can pull me down quite a bit depending on the form of the day. But if you have found in this way a slot that gives, this pays i.d.R. but also right. Then you can Risk stakes beyond 2 euros even after the first high wins. It is then nice when the free spins come at 10 euros bet or more and you win 2000+ euros in a free spins round. After that, if you find more "hot" slots, you can let off steam nicely in highroller manner and leave the average RTP to the left. These are the days when gambling is worth it every now and then.

I do not need 100-200 euros to test whether the things run or not...for that a few euros are long and then I notice something like that. If it does not run, I log out and test it again a few hours later (yes within a day can even ändenr, very often experienced) or the next day...

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yggdrasil

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12th Mar. 2018, at 07:16 pm CET#13

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Ronny1982 wrote on 12/03/2018 at 19:10

I don't need 100-200 euros to test whether the things run or not..for that a few euros are long and then I notice something like that. If it does not run, I log out and test it again a few hours later (yes within a day can even ändenr, very often experienced) or the next day.

Thanks for the hint. Thus, I could still save some money...

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Andrew789

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12th Mar. 2018, at 08:20 pm CET#14

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Ronny1982 wrote on 12/03/2018 at 19:10

yggdrasil wrote on 03/12/2018 at 18:37: What you describe is the norm. Although the slots are supposed to be randomly operated and they are supposed to be regulatory controlled, they operate anything but randomly. What the providers trick the beginner or casual gambler with, the "pro" can use to his advantage, but also not without having to mentally cope with big losses every now and then. Whether a slot is in a giving mood can be tested out with a few spins, but you have to keep in mind that different bets influence the behavior of the slot. However, if the machine has not paid out a substantial win after a 10-20 euro bet, the slot is dead for today. But that brings us to the problem. You may test 10 different slots in a row without finding one that is in a giving mood. With this you would already have a loss of 100-200 euros with testing alone, which can pull me down quite a bit depending on the form of the day. But if you have found in this way a slot that gives, this pays i.d.R. but also right. Then you can Risk stakes beyond 2 euros even after the first high wins. It is then nice when the free spins come at 10 euros bet or more and you win 2000+ euros in a free spins round. After that, if you find more "hot" slots, you can let off steam nicely in highroller manner and leave the average RTP to the left. These are the days when gambling is worth it every now and then.

I do not need 100-200 euros to test whether the things run or not...for that a few euros are long and then I notice something like that. If it does not run, I log out and test it again a few hours later (yes within a day can even ändenr, very often experienced) or the next day...

Jaa that with the Ausesten I think sometimes also that one notices that at it. But sometimes you turn 100 times or so and then Zack come but still hammer free games. Is indeed rare, but how should that then fit in?

@Ronny: Yes that's true, but you also play on 10 cents (which is definitely good not to lose much), so then a few euros are enough

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12th Mar. 2018, at 08:46 pm CET#15

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I have it 3x so similar at stake7 by . Deposited a lot of money, won nothing, but received 3 x bonus without Deposit . I think it was 200 euros each time . Each time I could first work my way up quite comfortably . The closer I got to the point where the bonus would be fulfilled, the smaller the wins became . The end of the song was in all 3 cases, that I had only 40 cents, 1 euro and once 2 euros. And just then appeared on the screen : Congratulations! You have just fulfilled the bonus conditions, and can withdraw the amount won . Hello joke, I can only say. Who still believes that this is a coincidence, which is no longer to help

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12th Mar. 2018, at 11:34 pm CET#16

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Stake7 I would like very much but since the site has a new license only junk

There goes absolutely nothing

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tontoo2

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13th Mar. 2018, at 12:28 am CET#17

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Well, it is interesting to seriously ask oneself whether in our time, where companies like VW manipulate their exhaust values via software, in an industry that is located "somewhere", the responsible persons are "someone" and the contact, support, in the best case gives a female nickname, and in truth is called "somehow", perhaps gambling is not quite legal after all.

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13th Mar. 2018, at 01:26 am CET#18

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I also think that Manipulation can and does take place. Today, banks are "attacked" online,
hackers are able to penetrate the federal government, the Pentagon, etc. I think that these
Institutions are monitored and secured by the best computer freaks and programs.
nevertheless, some hobbyists always manage to penetrate them.

Only Online Casinos are so often emphasized that everything is so secure and unmanipulable.
Complete nonsense in my eyes. No one has seen the servers yet. None of
of us has ever read them. And if it would be
would be so far, one could "fiddle" them with security or change.
In the PC area, everything is possible!

Allegedly, the MGA and other "monitoring institutions" monitor
the casinos. Allegedly, the casinos have no access to the win rate and payout.
Anyone who believes this also believes in Santa Claus.

tontoo2, you are absolutely right with the example of exhaust manipulation. The car recognized that it is in
a test situation, and switched the program with the clean exhaust values.
And why all this? Because it was about the American market with billions in sales.
A perfidious as well as ingenious idea, in order to keep the exhaust gas values in the USA.
An idea with extreme criminal energy. But actually not surprising, it is about
a lot of money.

Online casinos don't involve billions, but they also involve a lot of money.
And of course there is cheating. Why should the exception be here of all places?

At OC, they cheat in a different way.
Legally through bonus conditions, which most people do not read through, and
illegally through manipulation
Where there is money to be made, you don't get your neck full. It has always been
so. And if you can get double, triple, or even more through manipulation,
then that's what you do. No matter in which area. Online casinos are certainly no
Exception.

The Erahrung knows probably everyone. Without bonus it rattles through.
With bonus often extreme increase, and still shortly before the end of the bonus turnover
to zero. For sure, it's all a coincidence.

One cannot always win, that is clear. But in former times one had at least with 100 euro
ne timelang Spielaspass, even if one lost in the long run nevertheless.
Today it rattles through once with low stakes.
Or it comes to 10 cents the highest full screens, and you get 200€.
Still cheaper than to get an expensive full screens with 10 euros bet.

And Daniel, how do you always think that there is no cheating?
Are you standing next to the servers and guarding them?
And also the casinos have the chance to cheat as a "run".
Of all things, the OC industry is clean?
Never!

This is also exactly why I stopped gambling a year ago.
You have to realize at some point that it's just a rip-off, and make the jump!
I can well do without the consolation patches that you get from time to time.

Some of us compare thousands of times in the Internet television prices, the best offers etc..
But then invest several 100 Euros in some OC, which is licensed in Malta,
and you have to rely on statements that they do not cheat, and the MGA
is watching over it. Where with security also bribed without end.
Most do not even know where Malta is, or how the capital is called......
Daniel except......

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Begbie

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13th Mar. 2018, at 09:31 am CET#19

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i think that there is not only a game-specific quota, but also a globally controlled quota in the OC.
if this global quota does not want to give you high wins, then it is Pot like lid which slots you play.
the other way around is of course the same. which factors influence the global quota is really difficult to say.
it will not (only) depend on deposits, because i have already experienced several times that first deposits have directly brought something, so i have not thrown much into the global pot at that time
if this is the case, it probably has the function to lure the customer to Deposit in the future.
the game-specific quota will be randomly controlled, but the global quota in the OC, i don't believe that is random, but player account dependent.
when you log in, it's already determined that the player can win a maximum of 50 euros in this session, for example. if he reaches this and doesn't pay out, the dough is mercilessly sucked back in.

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Lapppalo

Forum posts: 186 Member since: 02.11.2017

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13th Mar. 2018, at 01:04 pm CET#20

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What's funny to me is that when I sign up for a new casino I often get lucky and win something and then suddenly it's like cut off. For me, this is no longer a coincidence, because it just happened too often.

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