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Online Casinos in general: ING DIBA cancels my gambler bank account after 2 months without giving any reason (Page 4)

Topic created on 17th May. 2022 | Page: 4 of 5 | Answers: 47 | Views: 14,771
DieWunderharke5000
Top Member
Once again not taken the pills?

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Anonym
Lohnschreiber, . Anyone who can think a bit should figure out the scam for themselves

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o****I
Kopfkino wrote on 05/18/2022 at 13:20: Lohnschreiber, . Anyone who can think a bit should figure out the scam themselves

And how did you figure it out then?

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Sebi123
Amateur
roccoammo11 wrote on 05/17/2022 at 10:15 pm
at which casinos do you play so?is the only source of income at this bank your wins from casinos & what you possibly transfer from your other account?!also recommend paysafe a u pay out and from there e.g. on Skrill & with the skrill card can also withdraw money at any ATM.

Exactly so it is have opened the account just for gambling exactly one year ago.

How do you mean that with Paysafecard Deposit and also withdraw why then still ultimately make final on Neteller and not generally zb. deposit with Neteller and only via Neteller also simply withdraw?

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TWiSTeD
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Sebi123 wrote on 18.05.2022 at 14:10
Exactly so it is have opened the account just for gambling exactly one year ago.

How do you mean that with Paysafecard Deposit and also withdraw why then still ultimately make final on Neteller and not generally zb. deposit with Neteller and only via Neteller also simply withdraw?

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of course you can deposit and withdraw directly with Skrill etc. unfortunately this payment method has disappeared at many casinos, hence the advice with the detour via paysafe.

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Sebi123
Amateur
gamble1 wrote on 17.05.2022 at 22:33
The problem for the bank is usually not that you gamble that is them as long as you do not want anything from them relatively indifferent and they probably already know it anyway the bank just does not want to pay a penalty or fines if either you suddenly pull the illegal card or but the state has a problem with it

The know also with Paysafe and Ewallets completely exactly what thing is the live also not on the moon and can also think logically that nobody the 10 Paysafecards in the month buys the everything for purchases like Steam or so spends but it simply does not itch them because they can punish nobody for it in the case of the cases

Or again short and sweet

Bank account - Casino = Bank does not like that could get penalties

Bank account - Paysafe/Ewallet = Bank still knows what is going on, but can argue that they can not know the final purpose, so no penalty for the bank and no customer who can claim money back
How do you mean that as long as you do not want anything from the bank, the bank leaves you alone despite regular casino withdrawals?

What do you mean by the bank does not want to have to pay a penalty?
Online casinos are legal since July 2021 at the latest also in DE.


How do you mean that illegally pull card?

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TWiSTeD
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Sebi123 wrote on 05/18/2022 at 15:12
What do you mean by the bank does not want to have to pay a fine?
Online casinos are legal since July 2021 at the latest also in DE.


How do you mean that illegally pull card?

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they are not.

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Sebi123
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dersawen wrote on 18.05.2022 at 15:48

they are just not.

Hä the German license will come It is now gradually awarded to certain casinos why some get one and others do not is again on another sheet.

Since July 2021 there is a new gambling treaty in which it was decided that (certain) Online Casinos should get a German license and thus become legal in de in return are then but also 5.3 percent gambling tax to steal that is then so to speak the deal of compromise on the part of the state that wants to earn.

To date, there is unfortunately still no one German license because the whole thing is delayed I think because of Corona.

The gambling place of the countries in Halle stands probably already and has also since a few weeks a web presence.

I think it will come down to the fact that all Malta casinos will be legal in Germany but in return now once from the player to bear the tax per spin of 5.3 percent are that you can certainly better Solve and rather the Deposit should be taxed as such is out of the question.

The state wants to earn with the 5.3 percent tax and in return, these providers are then also legal in DE.
I had understood that until now all online casinos whether Malta or Curacao license were in a gray area in DE.It was not so completely legal but you were at least not officially charged by the state because you have played in an online casino I have at least never heard.
The state does not want or wanted that one plays in an online casino is out of the question.the state would like that one but please in his stationary casinos / casinos his money verzocken.was I to a certain extent can also understand that he has concern the stationary casinos could go broke if all only play online.

So I see that at least

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- online casino has never been legal
- there was and is no gray area
- no licenses have been issued yet, therefore there is no list for banks, players or institutions to follow
Exception SH
- taxes must be paid even on illegal operations
- at the moment there is a toleration for casinos that follow the rules, so you are halfway safe. However, an authority can not order such a thing
the judiciary not order, but would have to override the law in the Bundestag, so you are not 100% sure
- can banks independently, even in the future with permitted licenses, terminate the customer, because you as a gambler is a risk. There pull
then just the AGB of the banks
- by the way: how will you decide as a layman, which casino really adheres to all the rules, pays the tax etc...... .

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Lizzy0805
Experienced
dersawen wrote on 18.05.2022 at 15:48

they are not.

Sports betting is legal though. You can ultimately transfer the money via Skrill, Paysafe or Neteller to a legal sports betting Provider such as Interwetten or Bah and from there, after once convert to your bank account. Or is there anything against it? So, because of Interwetten payout I had no trouble yet. 🤷🏻♀️

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