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Online Casinos in general: I have a big hunch... (Page 9)

Topic created on 21st Nov. 2018 | Page: 9 of 32 | Answers: 314 | Views: 58,480
C****7

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 11:12 am CET#81
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Gottlike wrote on 11/24/2018 at 11:02 AM
Because the whole thing doesn't work that easily. You only need one player sitting at the same table and using the Martingale strategy in a mirror image. Possibly even with higher stakes. Then the casino would go deep into the red with their manipulation.


You can't just look at yourself as a single player at a Roulette table. You also see the winners in the bottom right corner of the screen. Do you think they are all fake?

That is quite possible. With today's super-fast computers, each player could be fooled into playing his own virtual game.
But I'm not there yet.

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Anonym

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 11:13 am CET#82
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Champion280667 wrote on 11/24/2018 at 11:09: This is actually the crown video. The vibrations in the ball just before the "hole" looks undetectable in normal Roulette tables and underline a technical installation in the ball.
90% of the users who have seen the film are convinced that this roulette is manipulated.


I actually find the video very funny as well. There are also two Blackjack videos where the Dealer definitely cheats or even knows the outcome of the hand before dealing. That's why I actually stay away from all "live casino" games on the internet, I only play them in the casino

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Anonym

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 11:15 am CET#83
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Champion280667 wrote on 11/24/2018 at 11:12 AM
It's entirely possible. With today's super fast computers, each player could also be fooled into playing their own virtual game.
But I'm not there yet.

The claim could be easily verified by sitting at the same table with another friendly player and observing the outcomes of the numbers.

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C****7

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 11:24 am CET#84
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Well, I'm only concerned with the fact whether the game results are random or manipulated. Anything else would be an escalation level higher which I don't want to discuss.
If there is criminal energy in these companies, it is probably not limited.

Here, a class action lawsuit according to US standards would be interesting for us. Evolution Gaming also has its headquarters in the USA. There would be real money to get.

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B****3

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 11:40 am CET#85
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Ok. But if it were so that would be manipulated and then in addition so simply as you describe or, the video shows it, do you not think that there would have been reports of employees at some point on the net that confirm this?
So I mean employee x was fired, of course does not know about the complex fraud system, but notices that the ball jumps unusually ?

Sorry, I already believe in Manipulation in the casino, but that's too easy for me, and as I said what should you care, in your place I would use the precious time and continue to play with double accounts and bag money

In addition, I would be interested here the opinion of paysafemaster, even if he is absolutely crazy, but apparently what concerns Roulette from experience could write.

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Legend

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 12:19 pm CET#86
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As you write, he could make a lot of money and still warn others about it.
I would be interested in a detailed answer to this.

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C****7

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 12:22 pm CET#87
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The whole thing is controlled by the software of the game providers. I dare to say that the Online Casinos and groupers don't even know about the scams. Most of the time they are just the conduits of the whole business
You can also see that the customer services send almost the same answers with the same phrases

The casinos are only licensees and get even the answers from difficult customers preprinted

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Anonym

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 12:35 pm CET#88
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I do not know if this belongs here.
Have once seen a report about Kesselgucker "No joke": These people stood at the Roulette table watched the ball and were almost always right where the ball comes out then on the number 2rechts 2 left next to it and have become rich.Then that is at some point noticed and the people were no longer allowed to participate in roulette.Weis not whether the story is always true.Maybe there are people who always play roulette and pay attention to how the ball runs.Cheaters there are on both sides

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P****R

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 05:35 pm CET#89
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Manfrede4 wrote on 24.11.2018 at 12:35 pm: I do not know if this belongs here.
Have once seen a report about Kesselgucker "No joke":These people stood at the Roulette table watched the ball and were almost always right where the ball comes out then bet on the number 2rechts 2 left next to it and have become rich.Then this is noticed at some point and the people were no longer allowed to participate in roulette.Do not know if the story is always true.Maybe there are people who always play roulette and pay attention to how the ball runs.Cheaters are on both sides

the times are over. there will be no more serious state casino in the world, which gives the cancellation so late after ball drop, as it is necessary for successful kettle watching. apart from that, you will not let anyone with bet by announcement with neighboring numbers in the very last moment voluntarily cash out. online, the cancellation is so early that any kettle watching is unnecessary.

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P****R

I have a big hunch...

24th Nov. 2018, at 05:48 pm CET#90
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@videos

so i've only watched one here on my cell phone. i can well understand if you classify the behavior of the ball as strange. on the video there are one or two throws which might need a closer look, but the rest of the throws or the ball behavior i would - only seen from my own personal point of view mind you - interpret as "normal"

for a relevant statement about this, corresponding details about the used ball and corresponding anslyses are missing. i can't judge this, because i have never been deeply involved with physical solution approaches at this game. but i can confirm, that most people, who have "studied" ball and kettle parts elaborately, will most likely not see any Manipulation at this video

by the way: the leading manufacturers of pots and balls, which supply a large part of the state-owned casinos worldwide (partly also evolutiongaming), meanwhile use various measures to exclude any advantages due to the physical game process. besides balls that bounce more randomly, these are also pots with changing rotation speed, for example. and these are official facts from the manufacturers' side.

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