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Yes, I understand what you mean. Of course I'm small potatoes to them.
The ranking now at winzreloads was sick. Usually the turnover of the first ones wasn't that high, but this time there was more money.
Like every month, I only got the 100€. 11th place in the ranking..if there had been wins I would have made more turnover, but only deadspins and bad free spins..even the almost 30k turnover in 1 month is already a lot....
What the 1st place player has made in a month in terms of turnover, I've made at winz since I've been registered 🤣
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Okay, awesome that you made 34k with 2k. Yes, normally I think there was 1000€ or so, the CK knows how to trigger more sales...
what I wonder is whether he even made a win with 380k. For 2.5k it's not worth it, unless you somehow get 50k or so and try to build it up.
and 380k turnover with Winz... young... xD that's really awesome. Now I understand a little more why you were so excited. But it's 10 cents FS anyway, you'll win 10-20€ if you're lucky. You can't really do much with it either.
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But honestly, why should a casino give out freespins or anything else every time or regularly? I don't begrudge anyone anything they can get out of the casino if you ask... But at the end of the day, it's still a voluntary gift and not a MUST.
At the bakery where you always go, you don't insist that you get something after buying 20 loaves of bread, or at the supermarket where you regularly go shopping, for example. I don't want to attack anyone or anything, but getting upset that you get nothing is ridiculous somewhere (I've done it before, but now I see things differently)
Asking is completely ok with casinos, but only because it is known that sometimes you get something, if nothing comes is just bad luck. Then maybe have a look around and try other casinos.
If you deposit so much Leonidas, then I recommend you do it at Stake. If you play as much as you say, and I believe you do, then you'll easily make an extra €3-600 a month in free money from Stake. The VIP LevelUp Bonuses alone are extremely good. They run into the thousands.... I think you're already registered there, write me a PN and I'll tell you in detail about the possible goodies there. You'll just smile about a few freespins you get somewhere....
Regarding the reference to switching to crypto when depositing, I don't even think it's that bad, if you deposit regularly I can understand that on the part of the casino. I hardly think it was given as an order to do it that way. After all, a casino is a company, companies are profit-oriented and if you see potential for profit optimization, why not address the issue?
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Yes, the 2.5k is nothing if you've made almost 400k in sales...As you said, either he had a big hit and so maybe didn't lose anything or he put in 20k to get the 2.5k prize money 🤣
I made 2.6k loss to make just under 30k turnover...
Yes, the free spins at winz are just for the ass, because only on 10 cents... no matter what level you are. In some other casinos you get spins on higher bets...depending on your turnover etc. Otherwise I was actually quite happy with winz...but now I realize that they are screwing me more and more.
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Quite simply... because it makes customers believe that they are valued. In real casinos, such "goodies" are also distributed or competitions are organized. I think you can ask and demand something once a month. If you deposit and generate revenue, of course. They know anyway that they Risk little with 10 cents FS. How often do customers manage to get a +500€ credit from the 10-30 FS á 10 cents? It will certainly happen very rarely. What does Winz/the support employee gain from this? They know that Leo will definitely continue to play, which is why they allow themselves to deal with him in this way. Even if Leo never plays there again, 1000 others will.
Yes, but that's a completely different industry... at an Italian restaurant you get a free bottle of wine or a free pizza with every 10 pizzas. It's just an incentive to order frequently and only there and also shows that customers are valued.
I agree with you that Stake is much better. But it's one of the few OCs that gives so much back, even among crypto OCs.
I can't say 100% if that was an order either, just that I had to promote something in retail (gas station) as well. I've since remembered what it was. The savings bank card. For a while I always had to ask every customer if they had one and wanted to pay with it. In return, customers got ruble tickets or something, but there was always a competition associated with it. They wanted to increase the quota for it, I don't know why. Maybe they got a commission or wanted less cash in general, I really don't know.
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Who still needs free spins? .....
Here is a small excerpt from the information about the bonuses:
Bonuses are calculated as a mix of your turnover and your win. We believe that players should always be rewarded, regardless of whether they win or lose. It would be unfair to only reward losing players. However, if you're unlucky, we'll throw in a little extra!
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That sounds really good. So far I've only deposited twice at stake. I find it cumbersome to load money onto coinbase first...which then takes days until it arrives there to be able to Deposit it at stake, which then takes another hour until it arrives and I can play. Can you recommend something that makes it easier to deposit crypto into stake? Then I wouldn't distance myself from winz and would rather play at stake.
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If you have Apple Pay via Iphone or Mac, you can top up Coinbase with it and it's available immediately
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Huh, depositing at Coinbase is instant. Or do you do a normal bank transfer?
You can buy cryptos at Coinbase with credit card, PayPal and Apple Pay without a normal bank transfer.
Then it's best to buy LTC, it takes maybe 5 minutes until everything is over and you can play....
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It only has something to do with the casino. Support staff are told by the casino how much they can give as a bonus to which player. As if a support employee would deliberately give nothing away, even though the casino would allow it. What makes you think that?
That's not true either. With 2k a month, you are a very good player who can at least be given a few free spins. Whether there are other high rollers doesn't matter at all. Winz just seems to have a really bad bonus program, that's all.
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So if I make a turnover of EUR 2000 a month somewhere, whether in a casino or in other consumer areas, or in this case even a net turnover / loss...I would also expect to be treated as an important customer.
Everyone tries to make money, and that can only be done through customers. And with these figures and the losses you have written, you are a mega customer.
Why are you still doing this casino to yourself?
I would avoid such a place. There are enough providers out there who will carry you on their hands for such a turnover and give you champagne to go with it, figuratively speaking.
Compare that with me. My annual casino budget is around EUR 200 and even I regularly get free spins because they want to entice me again. So far I've spent 160 EUR this year. So I'm a really bad customer and the bottom line is that I get more Bonuses than you. That can't be right.
Why don't you write winz a clear message - either a good bonus on a regular basis or bye.
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I meant that the reason comes from the employee. Of course, certain requirements are set by Winz. You're right about that too. They are 1st-level supporters who can't make any decisions, but only follow instructions.
But come on, I've never seen an employee take the liberty of complaining about a customer's Deposit method because it causes excessive fees. Whether the supervisors pushed for this to increase the rate of crypto payments is also quite possible, nobody knows for sure, unless they work at Winz.
Then Winz should remove this deposit option if they really have problems with it. But since they have been allowing FIAT depositors for years, I really don't believe that they have any major problems with it and that this was also an initiative from the employee. Although I have to say that they also have something like "we love crypto" on their website. If they really gave the 1st-level supporters such instructions, then I don't understand why they offer FIAT at all.
Certainly not with crypto OCs. I deposited about 10k with Pino and when I deposited 2-3k in one month, I got a VIP manager who had Whatsapp and answered 24/7, gave me €200 Bonuses several times and that without me depositing any more. By Pino standards, I was a good customer, because I never received so many bonuses anywhere else.
Leo made significantly more sales than I did, always makes monthly deposits, and not just a little, and maybe gets a fraction of what I got at Pino. I can't say whether this is due to a lousy bonus program, because they already have good bonuses in themselves: daily rakeback, weekly Cashback and the VIP Club.
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Let me ask you a question, I don't play at Winz, but I think you're asking the wrong people. Don't you have a VIP manager or VIP support there?
My experience: Support is stingy, VIP managers are generous. I've received €200 Bonuses from VIP managers several times, just because I escalated one month.
If that's possible, then ask the VIP manager there, he'll give you something for sure.
Yes, the FS on 10 cents is really a joke. I had "high bet FS" at Pino when I was rated "good". It was 0.50 cents or something.
and yes, even if he hit 50k or so... that's not smart to keep playing. Would really like to know how much + or - the guy made.
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I don't think Winz has anything like that they only have a level system where your Cashback increases by 1% after extreme losses if it's a hidden system where someone suddenly gets an email one day or you have an email VIP@Winz but it only says on the page that you should contact them if you want a personalized offer if you don't like the Deposit 2500 € and get XX cashback
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