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Online Casinos in general: How real and virtual/online casinos work (Page 4)

Topic created on 05th Aug. 2024 | Page: 4 of 6 | Answers: 80 | Views: 3,507
R3hab
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How real and virtual/online casinos work

7th Aug. 2024, at 01:15 am CEST#46
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gamble1 wrote on 07.08.2024 at 00:16: guys seriously what is this debate about whether something is different at all alter just look at the winning pictures from a few years ago and then at the last few years these are worlds !

Now you're starting to look like blubo!

Casinos certainly make a huge turnover because everything is going right, yes exactly😂
Hello Mr. insider, enlighten us so that we don't have to speculate anymore

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7th Aug. 2024, at 02:38 am CEST#47
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R3hab wrote on 07.08.2024 at 01:15:

Starting to be like blubo now too !

Casinos are sure to make a huge turnover because everything is going right, yes exactly😂
Hello Mr. insider, enlighten us so that we don't have to speculate anymore

What does it have to do with being like someone else just because you mention the obvious? There are always pages and pages of speculation about what is different, whether it is worse or better or even the same, but the fact is that if you look at the pictures or videos you will realize how different everything is!


Apart from that, I used to be able to pay out several K almost every month and what happens now ? Really alltime minus!

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frapi07
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7th Aug. 2024, at 06:21 am CEST#48
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Very few people will know the truth. What must be mentioned, however, is that Manipulation is technically possible with OCs. We are not living in the year 1960...20 years ago it would have been unthinkable, but in the meantime technology and AI have developed to such an extent that it could be used for OCs.

Think about how easy and normal it has become to analyze customers based on their behavior and then suggest appropriate offers/products. There are so many ways to do this. Cookies, microphones on cell phones, etc. This is also a control system, isn't it?

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R3hab
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7th Aug. 2024, at 09:37 am CEST#49
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gamble1 wrote on 07.08.2024 at 02:38:

What does it have to do with being like someone else just because you mention the obvious? Here is always speculated pages about pages what is different whether it is worse or better or even the same but the fact is simply if you look at the pictures or videos you will notice how different everything is !


Apart from that, I used to be able to pay out several K almost every month and what happens now ? Real all-time minus!

They have to get the money back from you now, you paid out too often

By "like blubbo" I mean that! (exclamation mark) Not the content 😉

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Marieangels
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7th Aug. 2024, at 04:27 pm CEST#50
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Perhaps it also has to do with the money market, slumps on the stock exchange and in the crypto business. There was little going on during the European Championship, now many are on vacation, so there is hardly any gambling. No income, no wins. I'm sure they'll identify your ID. As soon as you're online, everything is tracked. They even know which site you order from. And they can certainly influence the slots. Not all at once and not every day. So that it's not too noticeable. But if you're in there every day for years, you'll get a feel for whether it's going to work or not.

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How real and virtual/online casinos work

7th Aug. 2024, at 07:47 pm CEST#51
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it is 100% not a coincidence

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XXLEONIDASXX
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7th Aug. 2024, at 11:16 pm CEST#52
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What I experienced today and the last few days at winz...bottomless! You can pay as much as you want...no matter what you play...everywhere nothing and without shit all free spins on different bets not more than max 15x paid ..there you could really throw everything against the wall.

Then I ask in the chat for free spins, which are only on 10 cents anyway and they tell me that they can't offer me anything because I would cause too many fees through my deposits with Jeton and master card..I should Deposit with crypto in the future....and sent me a long guide on how to do it🤣🤣 I think it's cheeky...they offer these depositors, but want to forbid you to do it 🤣 I'm a regular player at winz ...I deposit a minimum of hunni almost every day and I have the feeling they don't give a shit about me. They don't have to earn a lot, but they get p**sed off because of the fees for my depositors 🤣🤣 oh man ey. You realize again and again that you're just a cow for them to milk and they don't give a shit about you. I wrote to them, now I know why I get absolutely zero, because of the fees 👌🤣 they probably set me to the lowest RTP. No shit. It's just sick and antisocial what's going on. I'm strongly considering turning my back on all this online casino garbage, even if it would be very difficult. But you just feel like you're being taken for a ride.

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Marieangels
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8th Aug. 2024, at 12:58 am CEST#53
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 07.08.2024 at 23:16: What I experienced today and the last few days again at winz...bottomless! Can Deposit as you want...no matter what you play..everywhere nüscht and without shit all free spins on different bets no more than max 15x paid ..since you could really throw everything against the wall.

Then I ask in the chat for free spins, which are only on 10 cents anyway and they tell me that they can't offer me anything because I would cause too many fees through my deposits with Jeton and master card..I should deposit with crypto in the future....and sent me a long guide on how to do it🤣🤣 I think it's cheeky...they offer these depositors, but want to forbid you to do it 🤣 I'm a regular player at winz ...I deposit a minimum of hunni almost every day and I have the feeling they don't give a shit about me. They don't have to earn a lot, but they get p**sed off because of the fees for my depositors 🤣🤣 oh man ey. You realize again and again that you're just a cow for them to milk and they don't give a shit about you. I wrote to them, now I know why I get absolutely zero, because of the fees 👌🤣 they probably set me to the lowest RTP. No shit. It's just sick and antisocial what's going on. I'm strongly considering turning my back on all this online casino garbage, even if it would be very difficult. But you just feel like you're being taken for a ride.

Yes, that's exactly how I feel about Winz. Nothing for months and so bad that it's no fun anymore. Depositors also use tokens. It would be good to know if crypto deposits are any better. Maybe someone can report on their experiences... I'm currently playing in other casinos. Viggoslots, for example. At GG Bet, I even deposit from the bank (small contributions), as they have a German IBAN.

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Langhans_innen
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8th Aug. 2024, at 02:10 am CEST#54
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The RTP is therefore also influenced by the Deposit method - depending on how expensive it is for the provider. This is a new theory, but let's take a look at.... Hopefully, bank transfer won't be the best option

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8th Aug. 2024, at 02:47 am CEST#55
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 07.08.2024 at 23:16: What I experienced today and the last few days again at winz...bottomless! Can Deposit as you want...no matter what you play..everywhere nüscht and without shit all free spins on different bets no more than max 15x paid ..since you could really throw everything against the wall.

Then I ask in the chat for free spins, which are only on 10 cents anyway and they tell me that they can't offer me anything because I would cause too many fees through my deposits with Jeton and master card..I should deposit with crypto in the future....and sent me a long guide on how to do it🤣🤣 I think it's cheeky...they offer these depositors, but want to forbid you to do it 🤣 I'm a regular player at winz ...I deposit a minimum of hunni almost every day and I have the feeling they don't give a shit about me. They don't have to earn a lot, but they get p**sed off because of the fees for my depositors 🤣🤣 oh man ey. You realize again and again that you're just a cow for them to milk and they don't give a shit about you. I wrote to them, now I know why I get absolutely zero, because of the fees 👌🤣 they probably set me to the lowest RTP. No shit. It's just sick and antisocial what's going on. I'm strongly considering turning my back on all this online casino garbage, even if it would be very difficult. But you just feel like you're being taken for a ride.

So something like that is awesome, especially if it's really true as you say and you feel like you're at the start every day, it's really cheeky to give that as a reason and I haven't heard it that way either

Winz generally attaches great importance to directing everyone to cryptos, you can also see that you get more Cashback than crypto players, for example, if I'm not mistaken

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Falke
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8th Aug. 2024, at 07:17 am CEST#56
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 07.08.2024 at 23:16: What I experienced today and the last few days again at winz...bottomless! Can Deposit as you want...no matter what you play..everywhere nüscht and without shit all free spins on different bets no more than max 15x paid ..since you could really throw everything against the wall.

Then I ask in the chat for free spins, which are only on 10 cents anyway and they tell me that they can't offer me anything because I would cause too many fees through my deposits with Jeton and master card..I should deposit with crypto in the future....and sent me a long guide on how to do it🤣🤣 I think it's cheeky...they offer these depositors, but want to forbid you to do it 🤣 I'm a regular player at winz ...I deposit a minimum of hunni almost every day and I have the feeling they don't give a shit about me. They don't have to earn a lot, but they get p**sed off because of the fees for my depositors 🤣🤣 oh man ey. You realize again and again that you're just a cow for them to milk and they don't give a shit about you. I wrote to them, now I know why I get absolutely zero, because of the fees 👌🤣 they probably set me to the lowest RTP. No shit. It's just sick and antisocial what's going on. I'm strongly considering turning my back on all this online casino garbage, even if it would be very difficult. But you just feel like you're being taken for a ride.


They pretend to sell you a product and make less win because of the fees. If you deposit every day and lose, then THAT is the win and the fees don't matter. The fact that they don't even want to give you a few stupid free spins is so stupid that I'm almost lost for words. If you don't play at all, then they won't earn anything from you and if you're a player who doesn't pay out so quickly anyway, then the free spins don't matter at all because you'll play them down again anyway.

I just don't understand the mindset and stupidity of casinos. For many players, a win is just a bit more play money that ends up back in the casino. It's a cycle that only works in one direction.

If I were you, I would have blocked my account there immediately after such a stupid statement. And I bet you that they would have offered you a bonus right then, and one that was much bigger than a few stupid free spins.

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frapi07
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8th Aug. 2024, at 07:35 am CEST#57
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Falke wrote on 08.08.2024 at 07:17:


They pretend to sell you a product and make less win because of the fees. If you Deposit every day and lose, then THAT is the win and the fees don't matter at all. The fact that they don't even want to give you a few stupid free spins is so stupid that I'm almost lost for words. If you don't play at all, then they won't earn anything from you and if you're a player who doesn't pay out so quickly anyway, then the free spins don't matter at all because you'll play them down again anyway.

I just don't understand the mindset and stupidity of casinos. For many players, a win is just a bit more play money that ends up back in the casino. It's a cycle that only works in one direction.

If I were you, I would have blocked my account there immediately after such a stupid statement. And I bet you that they would have offered you a bonus right then, and one that was much bigger than a few stupid free spins.

Nothing to do with the casino, it was the support employee. I can imagine that Winz is trying to promote crypto by giving better Bonuses with it, but if you ask for FS in chat, they'll check if you're "eligible". It's like that everywhere. Leo wasn't, that's why he didn't get one and it certainly wasn't because he was charging fees (even if that was claimed). That would be stupid, the few FS (even on 50 cents) don't hurt them and that can quickly scare a customer away. I have the feeling that support, at least for normal players, is not your best friend. But if you are losing several thousand euros a month and have a high VIP ranking, then you will definitely be treated differently.

It was just an attempt by the employee to get the player to switch to crypto, nothing more. I also had to promote something (forgot what) when I worked in retail for a few months on the side. Maybe they want to increase the quota and get away from FIAT at some point.

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XXLEONIDASXX
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8th Aug. 2024, at 11:13 am CEST#58
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gamble1 wrote on 08.08.2024 at 02:47 am:
So something like that is awesome especially if it's really true as you say and you feel like you're at the start every day, it's really cheeky to call something like that a reason and I haven't heard it that way either

Winz generally attaches great importance to directing everyone to cryptos, you can also see that you get more Cashback than crypto players, for example, if I'm not mistaken now

I've lost all faith...I pay in so much and they tell me I'm too expensive for them with my depositors🤣🤣 I won't be paying in anything for a while now!

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XXLEONIDASXX
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8th Aug. 2024, at 11:18 am CEST#59
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frapi07 wrote on 08.08.2024 at 07:35:

Nothing to do with the casino, that was the support staff. I can imagine that Winz is trying to promote crypto by giving better Bonuses with it, but if you ask for FS in chat, they look to see if you are "eligible". It's like that everywhere. Leo wasn't, that's why he didn't get one and it certainly wasn't because he was charging fees (even if that was claimed). That would be stupid, the few FS (even on 50 cents) don't hurt them and that can quickly scare a customer away. I have the feeling that support, at least for normal players, is not your best friend. But if you are losing several thousand euros a month and have a high VIP ranking, then you will definitely be treated differently.

It was just an attempt by the employee to get the player to switch to crypto, nothing more. I also had to promote something (forgot what) when I worked in retail for a few months on the side. Maybe they want to increase the quota and get away from FIAT at some point.

Well, the thing is...I easily Deposit 2k out of my own pocket every month, which I usually lose...and then I ask for free spins and they always have nothing when I ask...in the beginning when I didn't play there for so long, I often got something. Above all, the games are only on 10 cents anyway... no matter what level you are. I'm already at a higher level.

Never mind... I keep realizing what kind of criminals these casinos are. Suck you dry to the last drop.

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8th Aug. 2024, at 12:04 pm CEST#60
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 08/08/2024 11:18:

Well the thing is...I easily Deposit 2k out of my own pocket every month, which I usually lose aucz..and then I ask for free spins and they always have nothing when I ask..in the beginning when I didn't play there so long and a lot, I got something more often. Above all, the games are only on 10 cents anyway... no matter what level you are. I'm already at a higher level.

Never mind... I keep realizing what kind of criminals these casinos are. Suck you dry to the last drop.

You just have to know that with 2k/month you are a "normal" player there. There are also extreme high rollers there, because people who deposit with crypto also play there and because they also allow sick bets.

I know you also follow CK (at least his streams, I've seen your name there before), check out his monthly leaderboard from July. The winner wagered 380k and for the top 10 you needed 34k turnover. How much will you make with 2k? 7k? That's peanuts for them.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I also think 2k is a lot and FS would have given them NOTHING, but these are unscrupulous people who really only give the minimum, unless you have a fat wallet.


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