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Online Casinos in general: How real and virtual/online casinos work (Page 3)

Topic created on 05th Aug. 2024 | Page: 3 of 6 | Answers: 80 | Views: 3,494
frapi07
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How real and virtual/online casinos work

6th Aug. 2024, at 12:23 am CEST#31
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 06.08.2024 at 00:07: It's all mafia...there is so much money flowing! The whole of Malta is controlled by the mafiosi.

I also mean the real casinos in the States in general and not just the OCs in Malta. It's hard to imagine how unscrupulous the real casinos are. They also manipulate, but not their machines, but their players.

I can link the following video here:



You'll be treated like a king there if they know you're financially well positioned. But you don't have to be a millionaire to be manipulated there. Of course, this only works to a limited extent online, e.g. luring you in with Bonuses etc. But since the industry is still the same, I can well imagine that they also manipulate IT.

As the saying goes: the cat never leaves the mouse

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R3hab
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6th Aug. 2024, at 12:38 am CEST#32
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Marieangels wrote on 06.08.2024 at 00:20:
I can only confirm your experience. I've been playing online for 12 years and have seen all the changes. I'm happy when I find a casino these days where it works a little, where you have some fun and don't just eat it up. But it never stays that way. After a win, I don't need to play in that casino anymore, and it's better not to play in others either. So I think it can really be controlled. At the moment, I only Deposit very small amounts. You can also win with a €20 depositor if they want to tempt you a little. Anything is possible in the digital world and the operators are not your friends. They want your money.

Exactly, that's how I do it, a 20 a month or so and that's fine, but to be honest, I don't fancy it any more

Just garbage

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moralischverwerflich
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6th Aug. 2024, at 07:59 am CEST#33
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XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 05.08.2024 at 22:11: I've had the idea for years...that every player is hired based on their ID. I've been playing online for 16 years and I often see the same processes...I Deposit months and win nothing, then if I've deposited a total of 10k or more for 6 months and lost, then I get a big win somewhere, like recently at slayers Inc on 80 cents just under 6k..then nothing comes back for months until the profit is gone again and I have deposited thousands more of mine. It's been like this for years. I've never been in the black in a casino like Milo here, for example, who is tens of thousands in the black at stake. There may be such things, but very, very rarely. You can count yourself lucky if a casino favors you like that! Then in individual games always the same sequences with pictures or almost pictures. What's more, if someone often plays on 20 cents to €1, you'll never get a good win on higher bets. I occasionally play on €3, €5, €10...but I've never hit 1000x or more in all these years. On €1 I've hit over 1000x umpteen times ... and on 10 cents, the smallest bet, I've strangely hit over 15,000x several times. Strange coincidences in any case. The only wins I get are when I win back a maximum of half of the depositors from the last few months and then that's it for months.

Without wanting to flex, but I'm clearly in the plus in several casinos, with a handful also beyond 10k.

Of course, I'm also fully in the red on 3-4 hands.
It has improved significantly with the plus when I limited myself to 1 main casino and a maximum of 2 others where I only play occasionally (yesterday I made an exception and played in a completely new one, but only because of a 350% non-sticky bonus, these are the only Bonuses I use occasionally)

I simply don't believe that anything is controlled in fair casinos. It doesn't do any good, it just drives customers away in the end. They automatically earn a lot of money through the house edge. And as has already been written here, the casinos have no access to the slots. These always run via the providers, except for the fake ones. It is my opinion that nothing is turned in the correct booths.
Sometimes you're a dog, sometimes you're a tree.... And there are a lot more trees in the world

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evopower140
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6th Aug. 2024, at 08:44 am CEST#34
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So there is something to the theory.

Change your IP when playing games, e.g. wifi off and no more games will come or games will come at once.

Somehow the slots give different when you are with wifi or e.g. in another wifi.

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frapi07
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How real and virtual/online casinos work

6th Aug. 2024, at 11:36 am CEST#35
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evopower140 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 08:44: So there's something to the theory.

Change your IP while playing, e.g. wifi off and no more games will come or games will come at once.

Somehow the slots give different when you are with wifi or e.g. in another wifi.

By changing your IP you might change the seed. That is rather the reason, not that it could be controlled.

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Stromberg
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How real and virtual/online casinos work

6th Aug. 2024, at 12:34 pm CEST#36
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evopower140 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 08:44: So there's something to the theory.

Change your IP while playing, e.g. wifi off and no more games will come or games will come at once.

Somehow the slots give different when you are with wifi or e.g. in another wifi.

How do you know what would have happened if you hadn't changed the IP?

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evopower140
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6th Aug. 2024, at 02:39 pm CEST#37
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Stromberg wrote on 06.08.2024 at 12:34 pm:

How do you know what would have happened if you hadn't changed the IP?

Well, you can't say 100 percent, but you can see that after more experiments.

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Pat1991
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6th Aug. 2024, at 04:25 pm CEST#38
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One of my two "big hits" in recent weeks has been without a bonus (on Platin). That goes to the theory that "it just doesn't work without a bonus".

I assume this is a coincidence. Why would they Risk their business through Manipulation?

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frapi07
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6th Aug. 2024, at 04:39 pm CEST#39
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Pat1991 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 16:25: One of my two "big hits" of the last few weeks was without bonus (at Platin). That about the theory that "it just doesn't work without a bonus".

I'm assuming coincidence. Why would they Risk their business by manipulating it?


I never claimed that you never win without a bonus or that you never achieve high/very high wins. Otherwise there wouldn't be stories like "won €160,000 with €20". What I have claimed, however, is that slots seem to perform better with bonus credits. I am also not the only one who has this perception.

Think about how often you've experienced this scenario with and without a bonus and you'll probably come to the conclusion that things are better more often with a bonus.

Why should they risk it? Because it is currently unprovable and this industry has no scruples. Why does a real casino have to manipulate its players if they have a house advantage anyway? To get every last cent, that's why they need it.

@Stromberg I realize that it doesn't work that way for everyone, but I've had this experience and I'm not the only one who believes it.

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Stromberg
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How real and virtual/online casinos work

6th Aug. 2024, at 04:42 pm CEST#40
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frapi07 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 16:39:
Never said that you never win or never get high/very high wins without a bonus. Otherwise there wouldn't be stories like "won €160,000 with €20". What I have claimed though is that slots seem to do better with bonus funds. I am also not the only one who has this perception.

Think about how often you've experienced this scenario with and without a bonus and you'll probably come to the conclusion that things are better more often with a bonus.

I can't confirm that

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DieWunderharke5000
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6th Aug. 2024, at 07:53 pm CEST#41
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The only thing we can say with absolute certainty on the subject is that the GambleJoe community gets into each other's hair at least once a year over the issue.

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Langhans_innen
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How real and virtual/online casinos work

6th Aug. 2024, at 09:56 pm CEST#42
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DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 19:53: The only thing we can say with absolute certainty on this topic is that the GambleJoe community gets into each other's hair at least once a year over the issue.

It only becomes critical when the parameters "right on the first of the month" or even "at Christmas time" the machines run particularly badly "because that's when people got (Christmas) money",

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Pat1991
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6th Aug. 2024, at 10:18 pm CEST#43
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Langhans_innen wrote on 06.08.2024 at 21:56:
It only becomes critical when the parameters "right on the first of the month" or even "at Christmas time" the machines run particularly badly "because people have received (Christmas) money there",

*On the scratch*

My two big hits were in the first week of the month. I can probably read the sarcasm in your post, but that's really nonsense.

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Langhans_innen
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6th Aug. 2024, at 10:30 pm CEST#44
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Pat1991 wrote on 06.08.2024 at 22:18:
*On the scratch*

My two fat hits were in the first week of the month. I guess I can read the sarcasm in your post, but that's really nonsense.

No, you weren't meant at all...especially since your good hits in the first week would prove the exact opposite But such claims have been made several times before. But I can't remember by whom.

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gamble1
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How real and virtual/online casinos work

7th Aug. 2024, at 12:16 am CEST#45
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People seriously, what is this debate about whether something is different at all? Just look at the winning pictures from a few years ago and then look at the last few years - they are worlds apart!

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