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i would be interested to know how real casinos (e.g. in Venlo, Duisburg etc.) and virtual casinos differ.
I think in real casinos you can really talk about "luck" if you win, as the machines don't know player IDs and anyone can hit the Jackpot with a €10 bet. In other words, one player can lose €10,000 on a machine and the next player can win the jackpot on the same machine with a €10 bet.
As an IT specialist, I assume that player IDs are transmitted in virtual casinos (i.e. online). This means that the Provider knows the player for each spin based on the IDs (whether anonymized or not). Achieving a maximum win would then be easier for the operator to control and each player would be assigned a virtual machine, so to speak. For example, you could only win €25,000 if you have gambled away at least €25,000. So it wouldn't matter whether someone from Italy had just gambled away €50,000 or someone from Spain a million. This luck would not be the same as in real life. If this were the case, it would be inevitable that the operator would not give any user (over a longer period of time) the opportunity to walk away with a win in the online casino.
Hence my question to you: How do Online Casinos actually work? Is it possible to hit a jackpot with a €10 bet, just like in a real casino, or is it impossible because the operator can control this more easily than in real casinos using user IDs?
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I also suspect that player IDs can be analyzed and wins are issued based on these analyses. This means that if someone deposits repeatedly, they are in a losing spiral. Or a player ID is favored if the player deposits again after a longer break.
What do you think about this?
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It is claimed that a slot always works the same way and that it is purely down to chance. I have seen too many times how a slot suddenly switches to idle. Of course, it can also happen that it is set to win for a short time, where suddenly the free spins are triggered 8 times in 100 spins.
I don't know exactly what or how, but for me it's clear that the technical possibilities for maximizing winnings and increasing the addictive factor are definitely being used and therefore you can't speak of any real coincidence in Online Casinos, at least not with slots.
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If such manipulation is possible, why shouldn't something else be possible? Of course there could be an internal control. With so much input, player X gets so much output. I also noticed this when I was actively playing slots and making bonus buys. I rarely won anything with the first one, I always had to put a lot in.
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What would the casinos/providers gain from controlling this? Absolutely nothing. Providers are paid by the casino, they don't care whether you win or lose. They earn neither less nor more as a result.
The casino doesn't care who wins and who loses. What has to come out as a win from the slot also comes out, regardless of who gets it.
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Just because you made me think of it... if they don't care, why don't some casinos pay out? Especially when I think back to this one Merkur Casino refuses to pay out €160,000 (gamblejoe.com)
All Slot winnings, so no jackpot. Has this really been delayed just because of a few documents? Was a complaint necessary because of this?
I know it's OT, but this sentence makes me wonder why they sometimes make such a fuss. They must be itching...
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Theoretically, you can say a casino always wins, they don't need to cheat at all because the house advantage will regulate in the long run, of course, the operators can also make a loss in the short term, but not in the long run
Lately, unfortunately, it's also been going according to a system for me only yesterday, for example, I noticed again how much it reminds me of a system I had lost € 150 in Legacy of Dead the day before yesterday on € 1 and with the last € 0.04 came free spins with the cat with 1x2
The next evening I lost another €100 on €1 and with the last spin on €0.10 the games came back in one go with the familiar cat and 1x2
Before that he didn't even fake 2 Scatters and the 150 and 100 just ran down
Things used to be different under MGA Casinos, but in my opinion this is not even due to the MGA but simply because of a policy where the manufacturer has tested its limits according to the motto "what are the idiots doing"
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I also think that this is / can be controlled. The casino makes a profit anyway, but because it's about money, profit maximization is naturally applied.
It has even been "proven" to me that the slots store a kind of "ID".
A few months ago, I played the slot "Hands of Midas" with provider A. Usually always with 0.25 EUR, but in this case with 0.50 EUR for the last 5 spins.
A few days later, I opened the slot again at provider B and wondered why the starting stake was suddenly set to 0.50 EUR, although it was usually always 0.25 EUR.
A few weeks later, I noticed the same phenomenon at El Torero. Provider B knows the last bet with provider A because the provider has the information and makes it available.
Both DE providers.
I imagine that the casino providers simply compare the corresponding information from the providers. For the casino, this is also worth its weight in gold if the provider "analyzes" the player in a certain way and makes the information available to the casino or uses it itself to maximize profits based on AI.
Does the player enter the slots with EUR 10 or EUR 100 at the start of the session? Does he make multiple deposits or does he stick to his deposited budget? How does the player behave after a win (raise or level bet)? How does the player react to losses (quick slot change or 200 spins in one slot)?
How does the player behave after a large number of 2-slot Scatters?
If the machine knows your playing style, the slot can still work with "chance" but still influence you and your game.
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I asked myself this question especially with Evolution and co. From digital cards that are "real" blank to the Dealer who becomes active and cheats. With Evolution, however, I can rule out the possibility that they play with rigged cards or that the dealers deliberately cheat. That would also be very risky, as the games are always live and you don't know whether you are being recorded.
With slots, on the other hand... how do you want to check and prove that? You can't see what's going on in the background and theoretically it would make more sense than in a Live Casino because you can get away with it.
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But that's exactly how you can see that it's not controlled.... If it were, why would they give you such a win and then make a fuss?
There are various reasons for not paying out: Black sheep, stalling tactics that make you gamble again etc. pp.
Of course they care if they have to pay out properly, I mean they don't care WHO gets it.
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Well, giving winnings that are possibly even spread through pictures and videos would be the best argument to say "Hey look, we can't manipulate the internet at all, it's full of winning pictures of our games", which wouldn't rule out a rip-off though
So if I were to develop a rip-off system, I would do it exactly the same way with enough witnesses to confirm that you can win but still rip off everyone else in proportion
Don't get me wrong I've won extremely well for years but the boxes like before don't exist anymore neither in OC's nor offline everything works differently
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You're right about that too. Maybe it was a system error or something... you can't rule something like that out. I mean, it already happens in real casinos (malfunctions), so I wouldn't be surprised if it also happens in virtual casinos. It can't be ruled out. Exploits/bugs/system errors happen very often. Look how cheaply the slots are programmed Especially those from Pragmatic. Falke has already complained about their programming in another thread (I think it's Meckerecke). They publish a lot with copy & paste and especially here many bugs etc. happen.
Yes, of course there are many reasons, but this also happens with OCs that are not black sheep. Platin was just one example. I've already read a few cases where OCs that are actually "too casual" have had problems with the payout and it was very rarely about such amounts (160k). Most of the time it was 10-40k that was won but caused problems. I can still remember this one well: Fraud:Cashimaschi does not pay out win for the second time despite Verification and account statements | GambleJoe® Forum (page 1/9). It was about 17k, so really little. Such a sum doesn't hurt any OC and if they had been smart, they would have paid it out, because you know that gamblers will come back sooner or later and gamble away money. Stalling tactics, yes, a lot of people do that, you're right.
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Without knowing exactly how it works.
Of course you can also hit the jackpot online with €10. If you could say in general that this is not possible, then it would have nothing to do with the player ID, but you would have a win in the payout table that is not actually paid out.
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The games are always with the providers and the casinos/gambling halls can't access them. They are programmed to make a win in the long run, manipulating them would be pointless because it would drive players away
Yes, the ID is of course transmitted (which is different in every casino) in order to avert possible game crashes or similar and to be able to assign the game to the player in order to be able to help with malfunctions.
The player results are calculated by an RNG immediately after pressing the start button. The results are even already calculated for any free games, as a bonus is counted as one game. You can see very well with Novomatic or Gamomat, for example, that the ID does not change in free spins
So it doesn't make any difference whether you "stop in".
Everything else is manipulated and should not be played. If you come from IT, you probably know how to examine the IFRAME where it comes from
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And how exactly do you want to know that? Everything you write here is your opinion. Of course, it could just as well be that Manipulation is taking place simply because it is technically possible. And if something is technically possible and a lot of money is involved, then the temptation is very obvious. And casinos in particular are not exactly the most trustworthy companies.
The manipulation can also come directly from the gaming Provider, who sometimes sets the slots to pay out and sometimes to lose. And of course, this can also be applied to a player ID, which could even take place across casinos.
I'm not saying that this is the case, but it is possible. And what always strikes me is that those who are convinced that there is no manipulation are always the ones who present it as fact. As if they had an insight into the entire procedure and knew all the industry secrets. In reality, these are all just "facts" that have been gleaned, usually from gambling portals. And gambling portals as a source of information, well, what more can you say.
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