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Online Casinos in general: How does August 2023 (Page 12)

Topic created on 01st Aug. 2023 | Page: 12 of 12 | Answers: 175 | Views: 19,391
Stromberg
Legend

Langhans wrote on 04.09.2023 at 10:38 am:

Ah, thanks already at the point for your interpretation help On the whole, I do not believe in such phenomena, which I think are very subjective, based only on coincidence and have by no means general validity. However, I have also observed that in certain situations I had the impression like "the third Scatter comes now in no case, because it never comes, if on reel 2 and 4 (only times as an example) before this and that happened". Conversely, there are also images where I think: "that happens really often, that he goes exactly then in the FS". So most of them are not completely immune to this....even if I somehow always remind myself that everything is probably just a coincidence

I haven't observed it with elk either, with my example with Jack and the beanstalk, that was fact. It was also talked about here in the forum. Is also no magic or brings an advantage, the spin is already made in the moment...


As for other "phenomena" that you describe: my feeling and I always pay attention to it, it is actually so that if you have 2 Scatters and the 3rd slips on one of the next rollers exactly through, then usually no 3rd scatter comes on the / the other rollers / roll...may not apply to every game, but often.

I think that is not a subjective perception, but the "slipping through" is the so-called near-miss-effect, which should only give the feeling: it was so close, go on.... And that only works if the 3rd scatter does not come....

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Langhans_innen
Expert

Stromberg wrote on 04.09.2023 at 11:08 am:

I didn't observe it with elk either, in my example with Jack and the beanstalk, that was fact. Was also talked about here in the forum. It's not magic or brings an advantage, the spin is already made at that moment...


As for other "phenomena" that you describe: my feeling and I always pay attention to it, it is actually so that if you have 2 Scatters and the 3rd slips on one of the next rollers exactly through, then usually no 3rd Scatter comes on the / the further rollers / roll...may not apply to every game, but often.

I think that is not a subjective perception, but the "slipping through" is the so-called near-miss-effect, which should only give the feeling: it was so close, go on.... And that only works if the 3rd scatter does not come....

The theories are manifold and in view of the fact that many people here invest their heart and soul as well as money passionately in this subject every day, it is not surprising I am no exception and one always tries to make the business more tangible and comprehensible for oneself. What I have gotten out of the habit of, however, is the thought process with the "This one has now slipped through four times by one, which is why the next one has to sit". The third scatter just didn't come...no matter if you didn't see it at all or if it was just off. At least I can't be lured with this "near miss effect"

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Stromberg
Legend

Langhans wrote on 04.09.2023 at 11:25 am:

The theories are just diverse and given the fact that many here daily invest their lifeblood as well as money passionately in this subject, it is also not surprising I am no exception and you are always trying to make the business for themselves more tangible and understandable. What I have gotten out of the habit of, however, is the thought process with the "This one has now slipped through four times by one, which is why the next one has to sit". The third Scatter just didn't come...no matter if you didn't see it at all or if it was just off. At least I can't be lured with this "near miss effect"

99 out of 100 theories are probably imagination, you're right.

I used to think with eye of Horus that if there were freespins once, there would most likely be more in the next 20 spins. 😄

And then there are still bugs in the game like in my example jatb and programmed psycho games as called...

That the whole thing has no effect on upcoming rounds etc or would give you any advantage is clear.

If you play for years, something like near miss effect of course only works subconsciously, because you have dealt with the functioning of the slot.

When slots were completely new territory for me, something like this certainly triggered me...

But I just wanted to express that certain events like the absence of Scatters after a previous near effect must be predictable. Simply because it is a common programming pattern.

I will now also pay more attention to counterexamples.

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roccoammo11
Expert

Langhans wrote on 04.09.2023 at 11:25 am:

The theories are just diverse and given the fact that many here daily invest their lifeblood as well as money passionately in this subject, it is also not surprising I am no exception and you are always trying to make the business for themselves more tangible and understandable. What I have gotten out of the habit of, however, is the thought process with the "This one has now slipped through four times by one, which is why the next one has to sit". The third Scatter just didn't come...no matter if you didn't see it at all or if it was just off. At least I can't be lured with this "near miss effect"

but also interesting how clever someone has been to achieve exactly this effect with almost all players!

although anyone who has ever had a real run should know that something like this is not an indication that free spins are about to come but rather that after 100 spins still none will be there & even if the win would probably not be so mega...depends of course on slot / Provider & how long the lucky streak on this day is

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roccoammo11
Expert

Stromberg wrote on 04.09.2023 at 11:37 am:

99 out of 100 theories are probably imagination, you're right.

I used to think with eye of Horus that if freespins come once, they will most likely come again in the next 20 spins. 😄

And then there are still bugs in the game like in my example jatb and programmed psycho games as called...

That the whole thing has no effect on upcoming rounds etc or would give you any advantage is clear.

If you play for years, something like near miss effect of course only works subconsciously, because you have dealt with the functioning of the slot.

When slots were completely new territory for me, something like this certainly triggered me...

But I just wanted to express that certain events like the absence of Scatters after a previous near effect must be predictable. Simply because it is a common programming pattern.

I will now also pay more attention to counterexamples.


how did you come up with the eye of horus theory?

did that happen to you 2-3 times before?
i thought at first if there is not much money in the machine then it doesn't give out higher wins until the first big win where my machine had to be refilled 3x until i had all my money

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Stromberg
Legend

roccoammo11 wrote on 04/09/2023 at 11:46 AM:

how did you come up with the eye of horus theory?

did that happen to you 2-3 times before by chance?
i thought at first if there is not much money in the machine then it doesn't give out higher wins until the first big win where my machine had to be refilled 3x until i had all my money

Yes, I think it was a few times so and then I've accepted that.

Was also convinced at the beginning of lure winnings in new casinos. Because in every new casino I have signed up after 2-4 deposits of 20 euros or so always had a good streak or a bigwin, which has brought me more than the deposits😂
After 10 or 15 casinos or so I have then but I think Mr Green the teeth out😁 before I always deposited without hesitation in new casinos, because I was sure the bigwin comes relatively early...
( when my theory at mrgreen was then exposed as wrong, I even thought about it for a short time, whether it is because it is a pure casino and not a bookie with casino. Had me first registered with everything bookie at that time, which had almost all a good casino and for me seemed more serious)

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Langhans_innen
Expert
roccoammo11 wrote on 04/09/2023 at 11:40 AM:

but also interesting how clever once someone has been to achieve exactly this effect with almost all players!

although anyone who has ever had a real run should know that something like this is not an indication that free spins are about to come but rather that after 100 spins there will still be none & even if the win would probably not be so mega...depends of course on slot/provider & how long the lucky streak is on that day

I admit that I also like to play slots where the possibly last needed Scatter flies in so slowly (or not) like in Legacy e.g. It's more fun than other games where all reels stop at the same time because I just find it exciting(-er). But nevertheless, I don't let myself be seduced by these recurring adrenaline or possibly endorphin stimuli to lose sight of my goal and then invest in this game again and again when it doesn't actually make any sense for me from a business point of view But as Stromberg has already rightly said: it takes time until you have yourself largely under control and simply assess the situation more soberly, more rationally and less emotionally for yourself.

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

Langhans wrote on 04.09.2023 at 15:51:
I admit that I also like to play slots where the possibly last needed Scatter flies in so slowly (or not) like in Legacy e.g. It's more fun than other games where all reels stop at the same time because I just find it exciting(-er). But nevertheless, I don't let myself be seduced by these recurring adrenaline or possibly endorphin stimuli to lose sight of my goal and then invest in this game again and again when it doesn't actually make any sense for me from a business point of view But as Stromberg has already rightly said: it takes time until you have yourself largely under control and simply assess the situation more soberly, more rationally and less emotionally for yourself.

I always enjoy reading your commis, sometimes I think Owei and sometimes top der hat recht..... should not be negative, so do not take so.

Seems to me like you from zocken just so a science for yourself out of it 😅

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Langhans_innen
Expert

morally reprehensible wrote on 04.09.2023 at 17:53:

I always like to read your commis, sometimes I think Owei and sometimes top der hat recht..... is not meant to be negative, so don't take it that way.

Seems to me like you just make a science out of gambling for yourself 😅

Oh thank you...no worries...I also sometimes think "Owei" and this also about myself The goal is simply to create the best possible conditions to go out with plus in the matter.This can by far not always work because the opponent usually has a crystal clear advantage. But I do think there are ways and means to minimize one's losses and optimize one's wins within one's means. Self-control and Risk management are the be-all and end-all for me. I can also lose without any problems, but then please not because I have deviated from my original path. What happens on one day or another is not so important for the time being. What's in my Exel list at the end of the quarter is important. But I'm only a little mini-gambler and can't compare myself with many here "Every little bit helps" is the best description

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Pneumatic
Top Member

Langhans wrote on 04.09.2023 at 18:22:

Oh thank you...no worries...I also sometimes think "Owei" and this also about myself The goal is simply to create the best possible conditions to go out with plus in the matter.This can by far not always work, because the opponent usually has a crystal clear advantage. But I do think there are ways and means to minimize one's losses and optimize one's wins within one's means. Self-control and Risk management are the be-all and end-all for me. I can also lose without any problems, but then please not because I have deviated from my original path. What happens on one day or another is not so important for the time being. What's in my Exel list at the end of the quarter is important. But I'm only a little mini-gambler and can't compare myself with many here "Every little bit helps" is the best description

Celebrate your contributions also (most) sometimes that is me but too much science that is made of it 🤣

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Langhans_innen
Expert
Pneumatic wrote on 04/09/2023 at 18:28:

Celebrate your posts too (most of them) but sometimes it's too much science made of it for me 🤣

the ways to happiness are now times diverse and whether mine is recommended for imitation, I would also not say Some raw balls on a multiple stake all the games that I may never play in the bonus anyway and pays out € 20,000. I'll only be able to dream of that for the rest of my life as a kind of cookie monster But what unites us all in the end is the danger of (total) loss, and that's what you have to avoid, because it comes sooner than you think And those who can afford to just play as they please can consider themselves lucky anyway and don't even have to be interested in such tactical stuff, even if they could have used the money for other things

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