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Online Casinos in general: How are things going for you in the new year? (Page 4)

Topic created on 20th Jan. 2018 | Page: 4 of 4 | Answers: 38 | Views: 9,796
redriver67
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How are things going for you in the new year?

25th Jan. 2018, at 11:53 am CET#31
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The feeling is that it's very automated. If you play more often, you will recognize real patterns. You pay in and win just as much that you can play a bit. As a lowroller you can slowly forget it. Probably not profitable enough for the providers if you play with 20 cents. So if this should all run on random generator I have to say that it was implemented very poorly. You have everything but the feeling that it is random.

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Anonym

How are things going for you in the new year?

26th Jan. 2018, at 03:38 am CET#32
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redriver67 wrote on 24.01.2018 at 13:44: Do you run the NetEnt games as crappy as mine. For days I get there not one free game. It runs umpteen times always only 2 Scatters in and for the heck of it not the third. In Jack and the Beanstalk come 2 treasure chests and as soon as the 3rd comes and you are happy the reel runs away from the bottom to the top. What is that ? I have experienced this a few times now! Slowly I think I have to pre-order the free spins from NetEnt.
At the moment it's really so dead man could puke. Not even in Videoslots in the battles I get below 200th place and that with probably 50-60 battles where I have participated in recent days. Good that I'm currently only the 0 Euro Battles mitmache. That probably saves me from a deep hole in the budget. If that continues to run now in February and March as the last few months then cheers. Need you slowly really no longer gamble I think. Doubt slowly really the payout odds that are given in the Oc. Do the game manufacturers know that too?

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Anonym

How are things going for you in the new year?

26th Jan. 2018, at 04:00 am CET#33
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In my opinion, the payout ratios stated by the casinos are not correct !!! Only one example . At OVO I went through my deposits and withdrawals . A minus of 17000 ! Euro . OVO explains to me but that I have with the intermediate winnings (are counted correctly to it), a quota of 94% . That is just laughable. Just from the game feeling I can already say that this can never and never be. My theory is the following: the intermediate winnings are led as wins. And only as wins. If I Deposit 1000 euros as an example, and at 500 euros loss let's say 200 euros interim profit, I am still 300 euros in the red. At that point, no player will say, I stop now . So you continue to play. Often it goes down to zero. And when I reach zero, I have lost the remaining 500 euros of my deposit plus the 200 euros interim profit . In my opinion, the 200 euros loss no longer appear in the statistics of the casino . Are therefore only counted as a win . Everyone can calculate for themselves that with my loss of 17000 euros at an alleged rate of 94% any amount should have come back. Was not the case. Everything happened over a period of almost 3 years. And so the casinos cobble together the numbers

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wettibernd
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How are things going for you in the new year?

26th Jan. 2018, at 01:11 pm CET#34
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With me, there is simply nothing more to be done. Dead pants, no matter where, no matter what. Can be that I just have bad luck but is already something strange. In any case, I will continue to gamble only in casinos. Is a bit more time consuming but at least you can rely on 99.99% that you get his payout immediately in case of profit.

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Daniel
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How are things going for you in the new year?

26th Jan. 2018, at 06:37 pm CET#35
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Sigura43 wrote on 26/01/2018 at 04:00: In my opinion, the payout ratios given by the casinos are not correct !!! Just an ex . At OVO I went through my deposits and withdrawals . A minus of 17000 ! Euro . OVO explains to me but that I have with the intermediate winnings (are counted correctly to it), a quota of 94% . That is just laughable. Just from the game feeling I can already say that this can never and never be. My theory is the following: the intermediate winnings are led as wins. And only as wins. If I Deposit 1000 euros as an example, and at 500 euros loss let's say 200 euros interim profit, I am still 300 euros in the red. At that point no player will say, I stop now . So you continue to play. Often it goes down to zero. And when I reach zero, I have lost the remaining 500 euros of my deposit plus the 200 euros interim profit . In my opinion, the 200 euros loss no longer appear in the statistics of the casino . Are therefore only counted as a win . Everyone can calculate for themselves that with my loss of 17000 euros at an alleged rate of 94% any amount should have come back. Was not the case. Everything happened over a period of almost 3 years. And so the casinos cobble together the numbers.

In fact, it is so that the interim winnings count towards the payout ratio. The payout ratio is calculated from the number of spins. The payout ratio is correct, only players do not understand the principle correctly. I didn't understand it for a long time either.

Please read the following articles to understand how Slot machines work (but try to read and understand seriously):



Here is another article on this interesting topic:

Novoline & Merkur: Where are chances of winning the highest?

If you have read these articles and really understood them, then you will understand why the odds are right and why you still lose so much, although the odds are unbelievable 95% and more ...

A payout ratio of 95% does not mean that you or other players will eventually win back 95% of the stakes in one fell swoop, pay out and be merry. It means that you will lose 5% of your bet on average PER SPIN in the long run

So if you were to play indefinitely with €1 / spin at a 95% payout rate, you would lose an average of 5 cents per spin. Per minute (with 20 spins) 1€ loss and per hour 60€ loss. So if you play for an hour and lose 60€ in that hour, then you are averagely lucky in that hour and your AQ is 95%. If you lose only 30€, then you have had above average luck and are already a winner despite the loss.

Of course there are also the Big Winners, who get the 5 explorers at Book of Ra despite low probability and have an AQ of 500.000% (for this one spin). And since such a thing is also possible, it must also be able to go in the other direction in terms of probability and you play many spins under payout ratio.

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HopfenGamble
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How are things going for you in the new year?

1st Feb. 2018, at 10:46 pm CET#36
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I can hardly believe it but I have the first time ever at sunmaker can win something and also my 1st payout this year. I just uploaded my documents and I am curious how long it will take. Deposit & withdrawal via PayPal ... let's see how fast it goes. According to the test report here, it should go relatively fast.

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Anonym

How are things going for you in the new year?

2nd Feb. 2018, at 10:11 am CET#37
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@ Hopfen...Sunmaker is a very solid and reputable casino. The Verification will be fast and then the payout will be fast. Since you do not need to worry

May I ask how much you have won? Congratulations in any case

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redriver67
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How are things going for you in the new year?

2nd Feb. 2018, at 01:20 pm CET#38
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Yes at sunmaker I have also never had any problems. Top Casino!!! Well but since the Merkur Slots are gone I'm no longer often.

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HopfenGamble
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How are things going for you in the new year?

2nd Feb. 2018, at 01:55 pm CET#39
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So respect, so Fix was not yet a Verification + payout. Yesterday 22:30Uhr Auszahlung betragt - then uploaded the documents.

Today at shortly after 10:00Uhr was the money there - madness! Play sunmaker now mainly because of a) PayPal and b) Gamomat Games + BoD

@Ronny, sure you can ask: Got 40EUR in (without bonus) and 520EUR out.

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