Online Casinos in general: Here is the BigWin at last!!!! (Page 9)

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1. You can lie down and be depressed. Which is fine for a few days but should not become a permanent condition.


2. You can try to blame others and fight spasmodically against the "online casinos". Then spend money, time and energy on your "revenge". Which in the end will fail 99%. Because in the end it is just the way it is. You risked the money and theoretically you could have won more. Nobody forced you with a gun to gamble away the 55.000€ again. No argument in the world could convince a judge to agree with you.


3. You can see this experience as a chance and try your life from now on so gestallten that you can say in 1 - 3 years: "Hey, I won 55,000€ back then and gambled it away again and in retrospect that was the coolest thing that could have happened to me."

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Daniel wrote on 07/23/2019 9:42 PM: To the community:

I can understand the TE's frustration and I can honestly sympathize there. I think having such a high win gambled away again is one of the most disgusting feelings. There are some users here who now condemn the TE for this and a few years ago I would have done the same.

But I have learned a few things in the last few years: you have to be in a certain situation yourself before you can make a judgment. The fact is that some players (certainly not all) are in a bit of a frenzy when they make such a big win. With 50.000€ on the clock you feel "invincible" and of course it is a lot of fun in such a moment. I personally can understand very well how something like that can happen.

Someone here also mentioned that he would definitely stop playing forever with such a sum. Before the beginning of 2015 I thought so about a win between 20,000€ and 30,000€. Then came this win, with which I DEFINITIVELY would stop gambling. The win in the amount of 25,000€ (which was an infinite amount of money for me at the time), I have paid out but this was then within 10 days back in the casino plus again about 25,000€ (my reserves for taxes and social security, plus some savings) verbraten.

I then gambled for a while almost only in casinos and there I never took anything in principle. For me, the incentive to continue playing in casinos was always significantly higher than in online casinos. I often paid out at one machine, but since there were so many machines, the wins only went from one machine to the other. But that is individual for everyone. Some have themselves in Online Casinos better under control, the other offline.

Conclusion: Do not think that the same cannot happen to you. And also don't think that you can stop so easily after a big win. My experience is that after every exceptionally high win, only the average stakes increase and you find it harder to play on smaller stakes - even if the money you won is already gambled away.

An BigWinner:

As I wrote to you privately, you have to come to terms with this loss and try to make the best of it in the long run. Try to forget the past and think about the future. You can no longer influence the past, but you can influence your future.

Of course you can rate CasinoSecret on GambleJoe and include the negative points in your rating: https://www.gamblejoe.com/online-casinos/casino-secret/bewertung/

Otherwise, you now have several options to deal with this situation:

1. You can lie down and be depressed. Which is fine for a few days but should not become a permanent condition.


2. You can try to blame others and fight spasmodically against the "online casinos". Then spend money, time and energy on your "revenge". Which in the end will fail 99%. Because in the end it is just the way it is. You risked the money and theoretically you could have won more. Nobody forced you with a gun to gamble the 55.000€ again. No argument in the world could convince a judge to agree with you.


3. You can see this experience as a chance and try your life from now on so gestallten that you can say in 1 - 3 years: "Hey, I won 55,000€ back then and gambled it away again and in retrospect that was the coolest thing that could have happened to me."

Method #1 is the easiest. Method #2 is hard and will cost you energy, but won't get you anywhere in the long run. Method No. 3 is also hard, but can improve your life in the long run. Who knows, maybe you will become so successful with the work on yourself that you can start your own business, help other people with similar problems and earn not only 50.000€ once, but 120.000€ per year. No matter what you do or achieve with the last mindset, you will be better off in the long run.

This may all sound stupid to you now what I am writing here. But what would have happened if you had waited 2 or 3 days longer and got the money. Of course, now you only want to see the nice scenario. You probably think, then I would have paid my debts (if present with you) you treated to something nice and then stopped playing

However, due to your gambling behavior I estimate the situation with you differently: You might have managed to pay off your debts and bought yourself a little something or two. But you would have used a good part of the win again, only with the difference that you now have to play at higher stakes and win more than before, because otherwise the "kick" is missing. And where this leads in the long run you can surely imagine yourself. In the end, you have significantly more Debt than now and the things you bought, you would have sold again below value to be able to gamble.

In my experience, it is much easier to quit during a losing streak than after a big win.

Conclusion: Use this shock effect you have now and see this event as a turning point in your life. This is the best thing you can do in my opinion

The worst thing you can do psychologically is to blame others and try to start a fight that you will not win 99.99% of the time. Believe me, I've been through a lot when it comes to gambling, but the best mindset that has helped me and improved my life (not only when it comes to gambling) is to take personal responsibility and not to see myself as a victim anymore. Recognizing mistakes and actively working on them. Not to mourn the past, but to look at it with value and free of negative emotions and to learn from the mistakes.

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Daniel wrote on 07/23/2019 9:42 PM: To the community:

I can understand the TE's frustration and I can honestly sympathize there. I think having such a high win gambled away again is one of the most disgusting feelings. There are some users here who now condemn the TE for this and a few years ago I would have done the same.

But I have learned a few things in the last few years: you have to be in a certain situation yourself before you can make a judgment. The fact is that some players (certainly not all) are in a bit of a frenzy when they make such a big win. With 50.000€ on the clock you feel "invincible" and of course it is a lot of fun in such a moment. I personally can understand very well how something like that can happen.

Someone here also mentioned that he would definitely stop playing forever with such a sum. Before the beginning of 2015 I thought so about a win between 20,000€ and 30,000€. Then came this win, with which I DEFINITIVELY would stop gambling. The win in the amount of 25,000€ (which was an infinite amount of money for me at the time), I have paid out but this was then within 10 days back in the casino plus again about 25,000€ (my reserves for taxes and social security, plus some savings) verbraten.

I then gambled for a while almost only in casinos and there I never took anything in principle. For me, the incentive to continue playing in casinos was always significantly higher than in online casinos. I often paid out at one machine, but since there were so many machines, the wins only went from one machine to the other. But that is individual for everyone. Some have themselves in Online Casinos better under control, the other offline.

Conclusion: Do not think that the same cannot happen to you. And also don't think that you can stop so easily after a big win. My experience is that after every exceptionally high win, only the average stakes increase and you find it harder to play on smaller stakes - even if the money you won is already gambled away.

An BigWinner:

As I wrote to you privately, you have to come to terms with this loss and try to make the best of it in the long run. Try to forget the past and think about the future. You can no longer influence the past, but you can influence your future.

Of course you can rate CasinoSecret on GambleJoe and include the negative points in your rating: https://www.gamblejoe.com/online-casinos/casino-secret/bewertung/

Otherwise, you now have several options to deal with this situation:

1. You can lie down and be depressed. Which is fine for a few days but should not become a permanent condition.


2. You can try to blame others and fight spasmodically against the "online casinos". Then spend money, time and energy on your "revenge". Which in the end will fail 99%. Because in the end it is just the way it is. You risked the money and theoretically you could have won more. Nobody forced you with a gun to gamble the 55.000€ again. No argument in the world could convince a judge to agree with you.


3. You can see this experience as a chance and try your life from now on so gestallten that you can say in 1 - 3 years: "Hey, I won 55,000€ back then and gambled it away again and in retrospect that was the coolest thing that could have happened to me."

Method #1 is the easiest. Method #2 is hard and will cost you energy, but won't get you anywhere in the long run. Method No. 3 is also hard, but can improve your life in the long run. Who knows, maybe you will become so successful with the work on yourself that you can start your own business, help other people with similar problems and earn not only 50.000€ once, but 120.000€ per year. No matter what you do or achieve with the last mindset, you will be better off in the long run.

This may all sound stupid to you now what I am writing here. But what would have happened if you had waited 2 or 3 days longer and got the money. Of course, now you only want to see the nice scenario. You probably think, then I would have paid my debts (if present with you) you treated to something nice and then stopped playing

However, due to your gambling behavior I estimate the situation with you differently: You might have managed to pay off your debts and bought yourself a little something or two. But you would have used a good part of the win again, only with the difference that you now have to play at higher stakes and win more than before, because otherwise the "kick" is missing. And where this leads in the long run you can surely imagine yourself. In the end, you have significantly more Debt than now and the things you bought, you would have sold again below value to be able to gamble.

In my experience, it is much easier to quit during a losing streak than after a big win.

Conclusion: Use this shock effect you have now and see this event as a turning point in your life. This is the best thing you can do in my opinion

The worst thing you can do psychologically is to blame others and try to start a fight that you will not win 99.99% of the time. Believe me, I've been through a lot when it comes to gambling, but the best mindset that has helped me and improved my life (not only when it comes to gambling) is to take personal responsibility and not to see myself as a victim anymore. Recognizing mistakes and actively working on them. Not to mourn the past, but to look at it with value and free of negative emotions and to learn from the mistakes.

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BigWinner wrote on 07/23/2019 at 3:35 pm: I just failed trying to withdraw the money:.1. Could only withdraw max 5000 and 2. CS deliberately and extra delayed with the withdrawal and speculated on me gambling away one 5 K withdrawal after another again.


Congratulations CasinoSecret

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Zockertyp89 wrote on 07/23/2019 at 9:54 pm
Right now is the moment for the TE to quit. That should show that even such a win is not "enough". There is nothing left for him to achieve.

@Daniel: did you actually stay gamble free after your 50k? Do you still have the money? Really asking out of interest.

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BigWinner wrote on 07/23/2019 at 11:28 pm: Thanks Daniel, I agree with you for the most part and don't worry I don't get depressed over 50K. Money comes and money goes....

But still I have to disagree with you on some points:

1. "No argument in the world could convince a judge to agree with you."

In court and on the high seas, as is well known, you are in God's hands. I come from the legal field (but this is irrelevant) and will definitely pursue this matter with a lawyer and also in court, if nothing more comes from CS. There is a European regulation called EuGVVO and Art. 18 of this regulation even allows you to sue directly at your place of residence.

What makes you think that no argument in the world could convince the judge? There is a contractual relationship between CS and me and this contractual relationship also creates certain mutual duties of consideration and care. I don't want to go into too much detail and bore the GJ community with it. But if CS, according to its own statement, has blocked me at the moment because of the conversation with you and thus fulfills its (duty of care) obligations (or do you think they blocked me out of charity?) then I wonder why they didn't block me temporarily and for safety at the latest after I had gambled away half of the money? Then even more so, or? If a simple conversation forces the casino to act, then even more so payment cancellations in the amount of 25,000 EUR!!!! So, that was now only 1 argument of at least another 10 that come to mind...If you do not understand these arguments at all, you are either mentally incapable (which would be quite normal and not further bad) or but you are yourself the owner of a casino or hold shares

Most people might think that I want to get something out of here, but that's not the case. Some talk here about 50K would change their lives. So please....My life does not depend on whether I drive an expensive car and go on vacation 5 times or can fill my belly for 5 years......

No, the casino puts itself in such a way, as if it did nothing wrong AND THAT GIVES ME THE DRIVE!!!! which leads at the same time also into your No. 3
..:", help other people with similar problems ....".

You see nevertheless also in this and in the other forums, how many wins are lost due to the delaying and stalling tactics again. Even the user with the 10K payout on CS had 2-3 payout cancellations....

It is nice that Marie from Casino Secret is now active here in the forum. She will surely be able to explain to us why GambleJoe users should play at CASINO SECRET. A casino in which there are 1. NO LOSS LIMITS, 2. the function of the so-called "flushen" is not offered, 3. payouts are limited to max 5K, 4. payouts are not processed in the promised time and 5. and 6. and 7... and and and....In the terms and conditions is even that you can play for free in the Live Casino (virtually in game mode). This information is simply not true front and back.

Perhaps CS takes my case at least times to the occasion to carry out a successful quality management......

So, now you can continue to either express your condolences or show me how stupid I was.....I am already aware that such constructive contributions as from Daniel are rather scarce here......

BW

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