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Online Casinos in general: Hearing Police Suspicion Money Laundering / Platincasino / Claim Money Back (Page 3)

Topic created on 03rd Oct. 2023 | Page: 3 of 3 | Answers: 32 | Views: 7,377
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Hearing Police Suspicion Money Laundering / Platincasino / Claim Money Back

10th Oct. 2023, at 09:04 pm CEST#31
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Blubbo33 wrote on 10/10/2023 at 19:10:

This is exactly the problem, who sells his car for 10 pears!?

Is yet recognizable what is rotten and thus the contract could be challenged!

Yes but there you still have to provide arguments ! You can contest everything but what reason? Easily understandable is the contract and hidden clauses gibts also not only the argument of Gambling addiction would occur to me there after the motto "I'm addicted and I was held money in front of the nose"

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Hearing Police Suspicion Money Laundering / Platincasino / Claim Money Back

10th Oct. 2023, at 09:51 pm CEST#32
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gamble1 wrote on 10/10/2023 at 21:04:

Yes but there you still have to provide arguments ! You can challenge everything for now but what justification? Easily understandable is the contract and hidden clauses gebents also only the argument of Gambling addiction would occur to me there after the motto "I'm addicted and I was held money in front of the nose"

The arguments would be that one has exploited the plight of the player. If the player can prove that he was more or less broke and needed the money urgently, then this is an exploitation of the emergency and this will probably apply to many players.


Also, that he was not properly educated. As an example: If the PF knows that casino XY offers a settlement in 90% of cases and thus pays very quickly, but the player is told that everything is so difficult legally and involves a lot of Risk, etc. then this would be pretending to be false and misleading.

If you offer me your car for 10 €, because you are about to starve and you have no other way to get money and I know about this circumstance, then that would certainly also be a reason for contestation.
If there is no such reason, then you can also give away your car, you are of course right.

But honestly, addicts take quick money immediately and that is exactly what they are speculating on, which I find very reprehensible. The normal process financiers hit with up to 50%. That is already much, but still Ok, because the costs must be pre-financed and a certain residual risk remains.
But 5% or as in the above case 2% is just absolutely brazen and pure rip-off.

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Hearing Police Suspicion Money Laundering / Platincasino / Claim Money Back

10th Oct. 2023, at 10:10 pm CEST#33
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Falcon wrote on 10/10/2023 at 21:51:
The arguments would be that you took advantage of the player's hardship. So if the player can prove that he was more or less broke and needed the money badly, then that is taking advantage of hardship and this will probably apply to many players.


Also, that he was not properly educated. As an example: If the PF knows that casino XY offers a settlement in 90% of cases and thus pays very quickly, but the player is told that everything is so difficult legally and involves a lot of Risk, etc. then this would be pretending to be false and misleading.

If you offer me your car for 10 €, because you are about to starve and you have no other way to get money and I know about this circumstance, then that would certainly also be a reason for contestation.
If there is no such reason, then you can also give away your car, you are of course right.

But honestly, addicts take quick money immediately and that is exactly what they are speculating on, which I find very reprehensible. The normal process financiers hit with up to 50%. That is already much, but still Ok, because the costs must be pre-financed and a certain residual risk remains.
But 5% or as in the above case 2% is just absolutely brazen and pure rip-off.

If I do not deceive my legal knowledge, in your case the contract could be valid. There are few exceptions where you can make a contract "void". For example, if you are drunk or under the influence of drugs (so you no longer have the legal capacity), if there is anglistic deception (you were fooled) and if you are not yet fully capable (from 7-17 one is partially capable). As far as I can judge, you would have made a declaration of intent (consent) and also received one (offer accepted). To conclude a contract it needs first 2 WE --> here it would be given. Whether this is exploitation etc. would not matter, because you were in your right mind and knew what you were doing.

Theory is nice, but practice must not be missing either. I haven't found such a case (which is why it's hard to say what exactly would happen, because there are many factors involved), but what I could find was this: if you "sell" a car for 1€ (symbolic value) then it's considered a gift - and since 10€ is not far away, I think it would also be considered a gift here.

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