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Online Casinos in general: German Casino Law 2021 (Page 2)

Topic created on 26th Sep. 2020 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 21 | Views: 7,599
Anonym

German Casino Law 2021

27th Sep. 2020, at 05:19 pm CEST#11
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/online-gluecksspiel-deutschland-1.5025709!amp

So if you look at the article closely, it is clear that nothing is really certain and decided yet

The contract is currently in Brussels, to let it be approved by the EU
Only then it comes to the point that all federal states must vote again on whether they agree to the new contract or not
So far it is only a draft of the treaty on which one could agree more or less in principle. That does not mean anything yet
There are still countries that do not agree with the new treaty
The authority responsible for security/monitoring has not even been established yet, so it does not even exist yet and is only planned on paper so far.
Systems for control have not yet been installed or can only be installed when the new treaty actually comes into force and the corresponding authority starts its work
Means transitional arrangements or not, even on 15.10. we will (in my opinion) just as can continue to play as before
The casinos would have had to react for a long time, inform the German players, partly change their terms and conditions and much more
But on the part of the casinos is not really what happened so far
So big changes from 15.10. can not expect us, how should that work without the mentioned factors such as authority for control, systems for control, information files, etc.?

I remain curious but can not imagine with the best will in the world, which will really happen in the next few months

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zillertalerradler
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German Casino Law 2021

27th Sep. 2020, at 06:39 pm CEST#12
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Royal777 wrote on 09/26/2020 at 8:09 pm
There are already various topics about this.
The fact is that a few states oppose the new reform. All it takes is one vote against for the reform not to happen.

Instead, they will agree on a transition period (5-10 years), and also the so-called MGA licensed casinos will be officially recognized.
https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/ndr/gluecksspiel-111.html

again a transitional phase?
I find this quite strange, since for years the topic of online gambling has not really progressed in Germany

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Anonym

German Casino Law 2021

27th Sep. 2020, at 07:36 pm CEST#13
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xbunnyhopx3 wrote on 09/26/2020 at 21:06
Hey, can you write to me? Where did you get this info that some states are against it, and where the info that the transition phase lasts 5-10 years? If you write me a PN I would be happy, thank you

It is in the article that I linked in the post.

Nothing will happen for the time being

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Anonym

German Casino Law 2021

27th Sep. 2020, at 10:29 pm CEST#14
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I have today times in the CasinoClub chat, which are strongly focused on Germany and behind which a large listed company is because of the possible upcoming legal changes in Germany inquired. One said to me meaningfully, one would comply with all legal requirements but one has not yet received any info. For me, this supports the thesis that there will be a longer transition period where nothing happens. But in the long run it will probably be worse for us online players. The only way around this is crypto gambling on Caribbean sites, because if they start to dry out the payment streams, e.g. ban Trustly, Klarna, etc. for OC, it will be tight.
Still, it would be real crap if the new rules were implemented, because then there would be no banker games like BJ or Roulette, a site-wide loss limit, max stakes and minimum game duration for spins etc. Quasi a TR 5.0 for the Internet. This, in turn, will probably not be profitable for the operators and they will close themselves off to the German market, if they go along with the changes at all. We will then probably get regulated websites of state casinos like www.spielbankxyz.de.
I think I'll emigrate then, the German gambling laws are just stupid and made past the players. Let someone tell me TR 5.0 is good for gamblers... But you can go to the state casino and lose house and home in one evening...

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Anonym

German Casino Law 2021

27th Sep. 2020, at 11:38 pm CEST#15
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Royal777 wrote on 09/26/2020 at 8:09 pm
There are already various topics about this.
The fact is that a few states oppose the new reform. All it takes is one vote against for the reform not to happen.

Instead, they will agree on a transition period (5-10 years), and also the so-called MGA licensed casinos will be officially recognized.
https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/ndr/gluecksspiel-111.html



Where did this information come from?

There is no time period in the link regarding the transition period, nor is there any indication that "MGA licensed casinos" will be officially recognized, whatever that means.



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Anonym

German Casino Law 2021

27th Sep. 2020, at 11:41 pm CEST#16
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emeukal wrote on 27.09.2020 at 22:29
Still, it would be real crap if the new rules would be implemented, because then there would be no banker games like BJ or Roulette, a page wide loss limit, max stakes and minimum game duration for spins etc. Quasi a TR 5.0 for the Internet. This, in turn, will probably not be profitable for the operators and they will close themselves off to the German market, if they go along with the changes at all. We will then probably get regulated websites of state casinos like www.spielbankxyz.de.

Exactly the same
If you want to see the future, you only have to look at the site of a casino with a SH license

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Klabisto
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German Casino Law 2021

28th Sep. 2020, at 10:37 am CEST#17
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zillertalerradler wrote on 27.09.2020 at 18:39
again a transitional phase?
I find this quite strange, since for years the topic of online gambling has not really progressed in Germany.

Is there anything going on in Germany at all, except for diet increases?

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Katharina2
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German Casino Law 2021

28th Sep. 2020, at 04:13 pm CEST#18
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In another thread, the transition phase from 15.10.2020 to the start of
GlüStV 2021 is mentioned.

Special Schmank'l : Payment service providers will be prohibited to make payments to
Casinos without a German license.

This comes as a surprise, but it is intended to prevent players from even
register with casinos without a German license. So in a few days:
Pure confusion......

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Anonym

German Casino Law 2021

28th Sep. 2020, at 06:08 pm CEST#19
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Katharina2 wrote on 28.09.2020 at 16:13: In another thread, the transition phase from 15.10.2020 to start
GlüStV 2021 is mentioned.

Special Schmank'l : payment service providers will be prohibited to make payments to
Casinos without a German license to execute.

This comes as a surprise, but it is intended to prevent players from even
register with casinos without a German license. So in a few days:
Pure confusion......

The transition phase is a fairy tale from 1001 nights, so I'm not saying that this does not exist but as already written in the other thread of mine, this will not give us any problems for now
Do not go crazy, if we would expect big changes from the 15.10., the casinos would have long reacted mûssen
There would have been information for German players, partly would have had to be changed for Germany the terms and conditions, etc. and something like that does not happen within a few days, the casinos would have had to start weeks and months ago
In 2 weeks, the transition phase is to begin and not one major casino on the market has so far reacted in any way
That actually says everything and in the mills of bureaucracy in the summer of 2021 can really present a unified and agreed gambling contract, is anyway on a completely different note. It would not be the first law that would only find its way out of the drawer into society a few years later

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RiverSong
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German Casino Law 2021

28th Sep. 2020, at 06:12 pm CEST#20
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Katharina2 wrote on 28.09.2020 at 16:13: Besonderes Schmank'l : Zahlungsdienstleistern wird verboten Zahlungen an
Casinos without a German license.

Comes as a surprise, but this is to prevent players from not even
first register with casinos without a German license. So in a few days:
Pure confusion......

then the matter is clear --> pay now until 15.10.20 everything, really everything into your favorite oc what you can so that you are armed, get your last savings from the cookie jar, search all your closets again, ask acquaintances and friends to give you something (you pay it back soon) and especially take loans as much as you can. just so that your game flow is not interrupted --> payouts will continue anyway. so go now, the clock is ticking hahahahahhahhaha

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