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Online Casinos in general: Gambling fees VISA (Page 5)

Topic created on 16th Apr. 2018 | Page: 5 of 5 | Answers: 48 | Views: 20,977
Daniel
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5th Sep. 2018, at 02:27 pm CEST#41
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Even if you make fun of it, I would not reject it even so from the hand,
that on the part of the justice times is intervened. Finally Finazdienstleister have all
mastercard and Co have a not insignificant lobby, in the end there is a bank
behind it, and there the German state reacts extremely empflindlich.

Where am I making fun of this? I see it exactly the same way as you do. I have only exaggerated it, should not be funny.

One could observe during the crisis in 2008 what happened. There was no money for nothing but when the banks were not doing well, they were rescued with huge sums. So when push comes to shove (if everyone would return their deposits), then every player who has ever deposited in an online casino will rather be verutreilt, than that important (systemically important) banks take a too large damage. The media would then also in the sense of the banks and against the players exploit and there would be no one can effectively come to the aid. To exaggerate, they would make so much propaganda that the people would end up demanding the death penalty for gamblers.

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s****e

Gambling fees VISA

5th Sep. 2018, at 02:32 pm CEST#42
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Ah ok, then I misunderstood.

I agree with you!
With banks the fun stops...

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Anonym

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5th Sep. 2018, at 02:33 pm CEST#43
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Zockertyp89 wrote on 05/09/2018 at 13:16: The bottom line is that PayPal is also liable to prosecution and you could get your deposits back or is that different?

Paypal already does this:

"PayPal waived payment claims in the amount of almost 95,000 euros. An online gambler had used this sum via PayPal for casino games at Quasargaming. On the admission of the law firm, online casino games and the associated payment transactions are illegal in Germany, PayPal had informed that there are no more claims."

However, this was about the Paypal buyer protection, and not about the illegality of online casinos. I think we already had the topic here in the forum.

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Anonym

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5th Sep. 2018, at 02:43 pm CEST#44
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Mombasa wrote on 05/09/2018 at 14:33
Paypal already does this:

"PayPal waived payment claims amounting to almost 95,000 euros. An online gambler had used this sum via PayPal for casino games at Quasargaming. In response to the law firm's plea that online casino games and the associated payment transactions were illegal in Germany, PayPal had said that there were no longer any claims."

However, this was about the Paypal buyer protection, and not about the illegality of online casinos. I think we already had the topic here in the forum.


The buyer protection is no longer available when it comes to payments to casinos! And what you quote is also the only known case.

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s****e

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5th Sep. 2018, at 02:51 pm CEST#45
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But any payment transaction between private individuals and casinos is illegal in principle.
I don't quite understand that, Mombasa.

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Anonym

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5th Sep. 2018, at 03:50 pm CEST#46
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stkrie wrote on 05/09/2018 at 14:51: But any payment transaction between private individuals and casinos is illegal in principle.
Don't quite get it now, mombasa.

In principle, yes...
But there is a judgment in Brussels just not yet on this. According to the ECJ, the (lack of) German regulation of gambling and the gambling monopoly is not EU-compliant.

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s****e

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5th Sep. 2018, at 03:52 pm CEST#47
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However, the ECJ has left a loophole. As long as the protection of players and minors is not
is granted, a ban is legal. This would first have to be made up for and verifiable.

Therefore, this is all very vague again!

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Anonym

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5th Sep. 2018, at 04:16 pm CEST#48
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stkrie wrote on 05/09/2018 at 15:52

From there, it's all very squishy again!

Yep, all the same as before.
But well, I still believe in a regulation of Online Casinos in Germany. Perhaps similar (bad) as in Switzerland.

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dan3b3n
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5th Sep. 2018, at 04:23 pm CEST#49
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dnight wrote on 05/09/2018 at 14:27: just got refunded almost 180 euros in fees from diba without comment. No idea why? Is there anyone else like this or was there a corresponding ruling in the meantime

Was announced on 3.9. by ING via postbox message. About new messages you are notified in parallel by mail. As a user of an online bank, it is good to check from time to time.

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