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Online Casinos in general: Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 03:59 pm CET#1
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Hello people

I unfortunately had to deal with a serious loss in my environment last week. I have been suffering from Gambling addiction for about 4 years, was in treatment for it
Now it unfortunately came to what I have always been afraid of: I was, according to circumstances, pretty bad last week as well as right now. Several registrations in different casinos have failed, because I have made sure preventively still in September that I am blocked everywhere. Then unfortunately I came across casino xy. I was able to log in and saw that there was still a limit set up. Now comes the 1st point: is a period of 24 hours from 10€ limit to no limit so allowed?
Now comes the problem: I had at the Sparkasse always only a Dispo of 75€, precisely because I suffer from gambling addiction. But the savings bank apparently thought it would be cool to raise it to 1000 without asking me... Rest of the story: within 72 hours 850€ gone. Account in the red, job quit because of Corona. I'm a student and really don't know what to do at the moment
But now comes the point that concerns me: It's about Aspire Ltd.: On the one hand, it says in the terms and conditions that multiple accounts with the group casino is not allowed. However, I have an account at almost 4 casinos. In addition, I had Karamba even explicitly blocked due to gambling addiction, which has also confirmed to me the live chat. Question is now: Has the casino acted correctly here? Should I have been allowed to play at Casino xy at all, even though I was explicitly banned from at least one sister casino due to gambling addiction?
I really don't know what to do, on the one hand the painful loss, and now the financial difficulties, I'm really at the end...

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xxjj19
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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 04:09 pm CET#2
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Ahoy,

yes can understand you and you will not like to read this and the following comments.

You have paid the money yourself and gambled - you were not forced (whether possible or not by blocking etc.).

Now blame the casino (would certainly make a blanket first everyone)?

But ultimately the question is: What do you want to achieve?

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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 04:12 pm CET#4
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xxjj19 wrote on 11/30/2020 at 4:09 pm: Ahoy,

yes can understand you and you will not like to read this and the following comments.

You have deposited and gambled the money yourself - you were not forced to do so (whether possible or not by blocking etc.).

Now blame the casino (would certainly make a blanket first everyone)?

But ultimately the question is: What do you want to achieve?


Hi xxjj,

The point is that the security mechanisms do not work. It's as if I were to lock myself out of the casino in Duisburg, but then gamble in Hamburg anyway. And that is exactly what I think is a huge problem.

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xxjj19
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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 04:15 pm CET#5
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addict346 wrote on 11/30/2020 at 4:12 pm

Hi xxjj,

The point is that the security mechanisms do not work. That is as if I lock myself in the casino Duisburg Germany-wide, but then in Hamburg still gamble. And that is exactly what I think is a huge problem.

Yes, I already understood that

Unfortunately, no one will be able to help you.
If it would be your right to get deposited money back after you locked yourself somewhere, then every player in the future will try to lock himself everywhere and then Deposit - and then get the money back if you lose? Does not make sense.

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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 04:24 pm CET#6
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xxjj19 wrote on 30.11.2020 at 16:15
Yes, I already understood that

No one will be able to help you unfortunately.
If it would be your right to get deposited money back after you locked yourself somewhere ha, then every player in the future everywhere will try to lock themselves and then Deposit - and then get the money back if you lose? Does not make sense.


But the casinos can cancel wins as they please? The system is just completely disgusting...
And to Metallica: I don't get any tax money and I'll be done with my studies in 2 semesters. You are certainly a very pleasant person, with your umempatischen kind

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30th Nov. 2020, at 04:28 pm CET#7
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Wait a minute, it is not so easy then dear people

If the Te has locked himself in at least one casino of the group and a comparison of the data takes place to check whether he has an account in another casino of the group, he would never have been allowed to play there and if that is the case, even the MGA will award him the money

Prerequisite in my opinion but :

1) Same data and same e-mail then and now

2) A mutual data reconciliation of all casinos in the group

3) An effective block for Gambling addiction is set up (you have to explicitly say that you suffer from gambling addiction)

That a limit can be removed in 24 hours is not tragic

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30th Nov. 2020, at 04:34 pm CET#8
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gamble1 wrote on 30.11.2020 at 16:28: Moment Moment ist es dann doch nicht so leicht liebe Leute

If the Te has locked himself in at least one casino of the group and a comparison of the data takes place to check whether he has an account in another casino of the group he would never have been allowed to play there and if that is the case even the MGA will award him the money

Prerequisite in my opinion but :

1) Same data and same e-mail then and now

2) A mutual data reconciliation of all casinos in the group

3) An effective block for Gambling addiction is set up (you have to explicitly say that you suffer from gambling addiction)

That a limit can be removed in 24 hours is not tragic

Yes, except for point 2, which I am not sure about, all points are true. Karamba has even explicitly confirmed the 3rd point.

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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 04:48 pm CET#9
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There are casino groups, if you are locked in one casino then you are locked out in all casinos of this group for this period. But then there are also casino groups, where you are only blocked in the respective casino where you have made the exclusion and can continue to play in the other casinos of this group. You will certainly have played in a group where the latter applies. Christoph had once written an article here, which casino groups handle how exactly, but I have just searched this article no longer found. Maybe if Julian looks into the thread here, he can post the link to it, if the article should still exist here. How that is in the group of Aspire, I do not know otherwise you can read through the terms and conditions there, whether the block is there casino-wide or you are only blocked in the one. The terms and conditions are decisive whether violation or not violation.

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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 04:56 pm CET#10
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Falko wrote on 30.11.2020 at 16:48: There are casino groups, if you lock yourself in a casino then you are locked out in all casinos of this group for this period. But then there are also casino groups, there you are only locked in the respective casino where you have made the exclusion and can continue to play in the other casinos of this group. You will certainly have played in a group where the latter applies. Christoph had once written an article here, which casino groups handle how exactly, but I have just searched this article no longer found. Maybe if Julian looks into the thread here, he can post the link to it, if the article should still exist here. How that is in the group of Aspire, I do not know otherwise you can read through the terms and conditions there, whether the block is there casino-wide or you are only blocked in the one. The terms and conditions are decisive whether violation or not violation.

I have now sent the casino an email. AGB are not quite clear. They say, however, that you may only have one account with the group, but that's it

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Gambling addiction - Casino correct behavior? Aspire Ltd.

30th Nov. 2020, at 05:07 pm CET#11
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With the Aspire Group, you are only not allowed to claim the Welcome bonus in multiple casinos from them. However, having multiple accounts is allowed.

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