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Online Casinos in general: Gambeljoe supports scammers? Softswiss Casinos in the Toplist! (Page 3)

Topic created on 30th Jan. 2021 | Page: 3 of 19 | Answers: 189 | Views: 37,740
Hidaruma
Top Member

YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 12:46 PM

Hi Matthias,


i'm very happy that you still have answered. A time in advance, my intention was certainly not to tear you out of your well-deserved weekend! Only I also work from Mon.-Fri. and came only this morning to write this thread

Let me express it in this way please to clarify this for me wichitgen aspect. When I was a kid and wanted something and ran to my parents and asked "can I have that?" if a "no" followed I usually said, "but the others have that too!"

Most of you know this, and probably you too what did I get as an answer? "if everyone jumps off the bridge, will you jump too?"

Why do you draw the comparison with other comparison platforms and come up with a reverse rhetoric!?
I tried to make it clear with my introduction that I am reacting emotionally to some extent. Nevertheless, it may not have become quite clear. Let me therefore concretize it!

For me, you are far and wide in my opinion THE start-up point as a comparison portal, so your comparison is very limp with other leechers in this area! You compare apples with pears! I find that not exactly nice

And to define this even more clearly because I have built up such a great trust in this platform, I am accordingly disappointed!

Anyway, I wish you first a relaxing weekend!

Now to the community contributions regarding the credibility of this video!

1. look at Trustpilot the ratings and comments on these Brands and this group!
2. google in general how many other players (outside of Trustpilot) report about their scams in other forums!
3. i also throw my personal experience into the balance and compare these casinos with the reputable providers such as Wildz, Platincasino, Videoslots, etc. where I also gamble!

Once again, I'm not on the head fallen and always look "out of the box" everywhere me info and try to elicit how credible these sources are, therefore gives a much more concrete picture! Point!

Who uses Trustpilot as a selection criterion, has already lost anyway. Since users complain about the pure loss of their money and give ONLY because of this a bad rating.

Example: Pokerstars casino has more poor/insufficient ratings than anything else. They are just 95% crying because they lost there. The only thing about Pokerstars is that they are following the new rules.

You won't find a 100% objective and fair rating of an OC on any platform. People just let themselves be guided too much by their emotions and ignore the facts.

I'm the last person to object to a good scandal, but this video is garbage. Just accusations and zero evidence.

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YungKafa12
Rookie

Chrizzi wrote on 30.01.2021 at 12:59 pm: So then ne honest opinion

Someone follows GJ for years and has only praise. Super team, super comparison page etc

Then he waits with his 1 post in which he posts a video that is uploaded weekly by tens of new users on YouTube
In the video is a masked guy listing any evidence about scam on the part of N1

So if you release it, you should not complain that it's the weekend...
Sorry


Thanks Chrizzi that you lift the aspect againvorhebst. Just as background again, why have I not participated before here in the forum?


1. i knew in advance (as I now also always update the page ) that I would just spend too much time here haha and always want to give my two cents on something since I zock but then rather or use the free time with my loved ones or the like.

2. i'm actually not the type who likes to write a lot! "normally" wants to mean that I use the "to relax" next to work, the everyday things, the zocken etc. then still prefer something "more meaningful" spend. I hope you understand what I mean.

@kleinkariert
I think rather that in my example but someone who plays "high" or also larger sums in his sessions did not want to lose. Leechen where it only goes I say there only! And I also have not listed everything that is driving me at Slotwolf everything again. Wolf I in sheep coat tbringt it to the point

Puh.....that with the providers is again such a thing! I think I remember that Matthias had posted a news thread here where he has broken down that the providers analyze gaming behavior! or this assumption is permissible. (I took the trouble to look for it here but after 10 min. rummage through it can not find) so I will not commit myself there. (so much to time and detailed answer as listed above, as I said look here for a long time purely)

Well the topic Provider etc. is a huge area. How often have I experienced that I Slots e.g. Ramses Book at several providers (Wildz, Casumo, Platin, Videoslots to name a few) simply hang up! The game is interrupted in the middle, spins run into the void or it hacks. What this says I can not judge but ask the question in the room "do you know 100% whether providers can not be manipulated in any way"?

Ps: about spelling mistakes, typos please read over it, I usually just write down so

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Butterbrezel
Elite
The Trustpilot reviews are about 90% nonsense.
There are people who have lost money in the online casino. Since that affects most people who play slots, it has very little meaning.
Objectively presented and argued reviews are rare there.

So the source of your accusation is a video on a Youtube channel with 6 subscriptions? That is already extremely questionable.
If you look at the video, you will surely notice that there is not a single source reference in it.
Only theories that sound a bit strange. The video has even less significance than bad Trustpilot ratings for online casinos.

That it can go off at Online Casinos obliquely, can of course be. We 0815 users but eh net get what's going on.

Basically, if you think that you are cheated in the casinos, you should no longer play there.

Addendum: As for example the games of the N1 group with alleged double accounts, for example, that is of course to be classified as fraud. But nothing is mentioned in the funny video.

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YungKafa12
Rookie

Wutmaennchen wrote on 30.01.2021 at 13:31: The Trustpilot reviews are about 90% nonsense.
There post people who have lost money in the online casino. Since that affects most people who play slots, that has very little message.
Objectively presented and argued reviews are rare.

So the source of your accusation is a video on a Youtube channel with 6 subscriptions? That is already extremely questionable.
If you look at the video, you will surely notice that there is not a single source reference in it.
Only theories that sound a bit strange. The video has even less significance than bad Trustpilot ratings for online casinos.

That it can go off at Online Casinos obliquely, can of course be. We 0815 users but eh net get what's going on.

Basically, if you think that you are cheated in the casinos, you should no longer play there.




ok skillfully other points I list to read over and only Trupilot to pick out as a hanger is really wonderful. So I'll take the trouble and unpack all the material I've collected. But do not do that now, rather calmly tomorrow or the like


In addition, I have received private messages from very helpful users who have shared with me a super startup site. (www.gluecksspielforderung.de) there I will also bundled everything I have to send

To the community, I just want to help these brands to take a close look. Nothing more! Best regards

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Chrizzi
Experienced
@ yung kafa

I wasn't concerned with your participation. Anyone is welcome to just read along.
However, you write highly of GJ apart from the post and the two casinos.
You also have positive experience with other casinos here.

So why do you now share the... times honestly among us... Is it really about protecting the community?

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Butterbrezel
Elite
I have read through your contributions again and could not find anything different.

- relatively long introduction to your person
- Mention of Spinia and Slotwolf
- you have lost a lot of money
- then comes the funny video
- a "colleague" from Malta can confirm "fraud
- Trustpilot reviews

No source, only theories, no statement. Just had to deal with the criticism, if you post something like that here.

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BinGOLDiG
Expert
YungKafa12 wrote on 30.01.2021 at 10:55 am: Hello dear forum members, and dear GJ team,

bear with me regarding the post title, however, I am very upset! (the change of this title I would feel as unseriös) Admittedly sometimes one should not be led emotionally but you will understand as soon as I explain my situation what drives me to it.

I've been a gamer for about 8 years and am in my mid-30s (minimal profile at this point) and would have imagined my first post in this forum differently!
I know this site now for years and consider the moderators and operators of this site as serious and trustworthy. I thought at least!
How do I come on it? So for this I must a step back and go un the whole Schildern
Right at the beginning when I decided to try Online Casinos I started to read up on the background (bonus, rtp etc.) and came across this site. Everything seemed very transparent to me and the size of the community reinforced this for me. Over time, I have created various accounts on different casino platforms and tried around

Since I now, do not intend to write my complete life story down I come to the point. I have always searched out casinos on your site and then created an account. Because I have not questioned your expertise and competence. Now we come to the things as they say

Among the accounts that I have created and there regularly gambled included the following casinos

- Spinia
- Slotwolf

I am usually very rational! I know that losing is part of gambling and that wins are usually smaller than losses. If one gambles then one also loses point. And that usually i.d.R. not too scarce. Especially if you like me directly after a Deposit between 3 € - max. 10 € Spins bangs out. But that does not matter because as I said I think very rationally and my gaming behavior is now anything but advantageous in terms of my finances!

However, I always had the feeling that on these 2 casinos listed above it smells violently SCAM! Here concretely that pronounced!
Spinia: here I have in the period 2018 - mid 2020 over 42,000 € deposited and a one-time win of 5000 € can generate! Be that as it may, I have accepted so! My head told me "you are addicted to gambling" zockst like a madman, find a solution take it however!

But now comes the hammer, when I then made the effort to read more detailed about these casinos I came across here!



Exactly these brands belong to Russian SCAM providers! Furthermore, I have made myself smart about Trustpilot and see since all warn against these providers! However, that was not enough for me and I contacted a colleague who has moved to Malta since about the beginning of 2019. When I asked him about these casinos and asked if he can get info or ask around he has confirmed the whole thing. Here, however, only about people who have assessed these providers as untrustworthy!

Now now must emphasize quite clearly at the point that I massively question your competence! Do you maintain your top list only on the basis of the best commissions that you clear! Do you not care whether the providers (SlotWolf and Spinia are still in your casino list to find) are really serious?

I ask for an answer!

But there are also casinos that are reputable ☝️ but become unseriös with time! For whatever reason! As bspw Twin was for me always very trustworthy and just as I have rated the here also and praised in the sky... And suddenly started the then with withdrawal orders with their Verifizierungswillkűr on🤬 although I had already paid out felt 20 times and was verified accordingly! And these problems had several regular players there

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upola
Legend
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 1:38 PM




In addition, I have received private messages from very helpful users who have shared with me a super startup site. (www.gluecksspielforderung.de) there I will also send everything I have bundled


So this is about getting your money back?
Now we are getting closer to the matter.

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YungKafa12
Rookie

Chrizzi wrote on 01/30/2021 at 13:48: @ yung kafa

I was not interested in your participation. Anyone is also welcome to just read along.
But you write highly of GJ apart from the post and the two casinos.
You also have positive experience with other casinos here.

So why are you sharing this now... Let's be honest among ourselves... Is it really about protecting the community?



Yes, it is about the community! Because I am firmly convinced that it is many here like me who put quite high trust in the operators of this site. And perhaps also accordingly "naive" partly some aspects not sufficiently question. Considering what I have already purely in casinos and very much money behind it and of course Veträge (or however) with these casinos lead to profit. There must be generated yes very much money over it. That is then not everything without. How would you feel about it? "one says money rules the world" somehow I was just uneasy whether one acts with such unsummen always morally? or really deliziert also everything further checks and that even after years if one sends players there


But what I also hoped to get a possible assistance to be honest! And to be even more honest I do not regret it to have always reported my positive experiences earlier! It is the well-known phenomenon that you only when the shit hits the fan is loud, but before when everything is going well his mouth does not open.
Look I understand completely that it comes across stupid that my first post is quite negative. But everyone makes mistakes and it may as well have gone from the GJ team just to take out these casinos

Well anyway, look I have gambled away so much but never cried out here because that is somewhere irrational. During the Corona phase I had a bit more time and then just looked around a bit and looked at stats in the casinos etc. (my total payouts and wins in relation to the deposits) and well, even with the reputable providers with me on the duration of my zockerei fat in the minus. Only with the two providers among others I noticed that they stood out and then I looked around a bit on the net. Therefore, the emotional reaction.

On the other hand if one can always bring up all sources and prove everything in the best way, then so some politicians would be Wirttschaftsmanager uvm. long ago behind bars! However, it often emerge information that just give information about fraud and confirmability, etc.. (Cum-Ex Affäire, Snowden, Wikileaks), etc. I came across this video on YT last night, and have the in the night on today extremely bad sleep can. Hence the post today.

Best regards Chrizzi

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Kleinkariert
Expert
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 1:28 PM

Thanks Chrizzi for highlighting that aspect again. Just as background again, why didn't I participate here in the forum before?


1. i knew in advance (as I now also always update the page ) that I would just spend too much time here haha and always want to give my two cents on something since I zock but then rather or use the free time with my loved ones or the like.

2. i'm actually not the type who likes to write a lot! "normally" wants to mean that I use the "to relax" next to work, the everyday things, the zocken etc. then still prefer something "more meaningful" spend. I hope you understand what I mean.

@kleinkariert
I think rather that in my example but someone who plays "high" or also larger sums in his sessions did not want to lose. Leechen where it only goes I say there only! And I also have not listed everything that is driving me at Slotwolf everything again. Wolf I in sheep coat tbringt it to the point

Puh.....that with the providers is again such a thing! I think I remember that Matthias had posted a news thread here where he has broken down that the providers analyze gaming behavior! or this assumption is permissible. (I took the trouble to look for it here but after 10 min. rummage through it can not find) so I will not commit myself there. (so much to time and detailed answer as listed above, as I said look here for a long time purely)

Well the topic Provider etc. is a huge area. How often have I experienced that I Slots e.g. Ramses Book at several providers (Wildz, Casumo, Platin, Videoslots to name a few) simply hang up! The game is interrupted in the middle, spins run into the void or it hacks. What this says I can not judge but ask the question in the room "do you know 100% whether providers can not be manipulated in any way"?

Ps: about spelling mistakes, typos please read over it, I usually just write down so

Provider to manipulate should be very difficult, which means that here provider + casino would have to have a business going on where at least one supervisory authority would have to join the + the permissible control agencies would have to be blind. It is theoretically possible but very unlikely to maintain such a long time.

But the casinos can cheat in other ways, such as deliberately delaying the payout for a long time, or simply claiming to have discovered a double account and blocking the payout. They change rules on short notice and accuse you of violating bonus rules, etc. This is all possible without any problems. It is also possible to pull through an almost infinite chain of "checks" because you can even wait several weeks to months for a payout, everything is actually not allowed. But Aspire Casinos are still alive and listed here, so I can't take the list on GJ seriously anymore.

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