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Online Casinos in general: From Germany play legally or illegally

Topic created on 12th Jul. 2019 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 9 | Views: 4,483
Blackskyper
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From Germany play legally or illegally

12th Jul. 2019, at 11:17 pm CEST#1
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Hello I am new in the field therefore briefly zbd succinctly the question, it is allowed in Germany to play online casino games with real money and pay out the winnings?

Can there be problems or how does the whole thing look?

Thanks for your help

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wettibernd
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From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 12:10 am CEST#2
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The topic has been discussed back and forth here at least 100x, conclusion is

german law --- no

european law --- yes

decide for yourself where you live

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Blackskyper
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From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 12:56 am CEST#3
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In how far I should decide for myself where I live? Can there be problems if I play from DE and make withdrawals or are these as good as excluded if you do not make everything public or stream or similar? I would be happy about some tips and helpful answers

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Falko
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From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 01:06 am CEST#4
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It is best if you only play in Online Casinos that also have sports betting on offer. According to German law, sports betting is not prohibited and should there be questions from the bank about deposits and withdrawals from online casinos, you can always say that you only play sports betting. There have actually been posts here that people were terminated by their bank because they played in online casinos. But these were rare exceptions and it was always only the Volksbank, which has gone against it with termination of the bank account.

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Blackskyper
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From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 01:47 am CEST#5
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All right great, can anyone other than the bank proceed against it or how does the whole thing look like

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Katharina2
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From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 08:58 am CEST#6
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Ups...... >:O with the people bank I am, so as a loyal citizen and customer. Have there always
only small amounts and still no problems get.

To legal/illegal: is it not so that European right stands before German right and therefore
therefore the players are left alone ...... ... .hmmmmm? That with the sports betting
i did not know, good to know...... ...

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Christoph
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From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 09:13 am CEST#7
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Online gambling is a legal gray area in Germany (the exception is Schlewswig-Holstein, where online gambling licenses have been extended until 2021). German law actually prohibits online gambling, but the providers invoke the European law of freedom of services.

More details about the legal background can be found in the article: https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/online-gluecksspiel-in-deutschland-legal/

A ruling by the Federal Administrative Court (BVerwG) did not change the legal gray area: https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/online-casinos-weiterhin-legal-trotz-bverwg-urteil/

Germany wants to regulate at least online sports betting from 2020, from 2021 there might be new laws concerning online gambling: https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/ministerprasidentenkonferenz-2019-sportwetten-erlaubt/

Otherwise, there is a lot of discussion, but still no legal clarity. So it remains a gray area. Otherwise, there are always discussions about the legal situation. Here are a few more examples:


The articles should give you the most important info on the topics.

It is known that some banks in Germany can cause problems when it comes to gambling. In the forum there were cases with Volksbank or Commerzbank. I myself have deposited and withdrawn money in Online Casinos through accounts of Hanseatic Bank, Consorsbank and Deutsche Bank several times. There were never any problems or inquiries from the banks.

If banks are too insecure for you, e-wallets are good alternatives. MuchBetter, ecoPayz, Skrill and Neteller are meant. You would transfer money to your e-wallet. The bank would not know what the money is used for. So they would not know about the online gambling.

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Katharina2
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From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 10:51 am CEST#8
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Oh, thank you for the information...... In this respect, one can only hope that Germany
for Online Casinos to align the laws according to European law, then it would be for the
Jurisdiction also easier. I do not think that you can interfere in pers. Freedoms intervene
and ban OC as long as Brussels dictates otherwise. In this respect, I actually see the German.
Laws to it, as a gray area. At least it provides for irritations at present. Have a nice day, yet.

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Anonym

From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 07:11 pm CEST#9
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see that but times so gambling and moonlighting is not allowed in the FRG.if our politicians would care what, they could ban it or allow.Do they but not.Denen not interested whether I or another normal citizen 500 euros a month verzocken.if that is now 10 or 20000 euros a month is the rather interested.if I play at my neighbor Skat for small sum is also illegal if strangers come to it.
If the Brd against everything would proceed one would need so I guess 100 times as many officials and court cases.

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B****3

From Germany play legally or illegally

13th Jul. 2019, at 07:43 pm CEST#10
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Nevertheless, you should never forget that the casinos sit on the longer lever. Due to the legal situation, you have no claim, so a certain residual Risk remains

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