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Online Casinos in general: Free play madness at Jockerstar (Page 2)

Topic created on 10th Nov. 2023 | Page: 2 of 2 | Answers: 19 | Views: 2,748
gamble1
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Stromberg wrote on 12.11.2023 at 12:46 pm:

Of course it remains junk, didn't say otherwise. Except that it is completely unclear how high the rtp could actually be so that the casinos can operate as they did before taxation.

(I think a tax on inheritance makes sense from a certain size (in the higher million range), but the money should then also be used for more social justice)

Sensible yes, but still unfair as the person who inherits it has already paid endless taxes on it, of course

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Stromberg
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gamble1 wrote on 12.11.2023 at 23:05:
Sensible yes but unfair anyway because the person who inherits it has already paid taxes on it without end, of course, as a rule

That's true and I also find it difficult somehow...

On the other hand, even if it stays in the family, other people then get a lot of money that others work hard for all their lives
work hard for and still never get it. And they also pay tax on their income.

Of course, you can always say it's just luck or bad luck. Just like whether you are born in Germany or in a war zone in Africa...
But in circumstances where it doesn't hurt anyone, where we are talking about money that you don't normally spend your whole life, I think a little redistribution is fair, as long as it is invested in educational opportunities etc.
Even the most neo-capitalist Monopoly man should be able to recognize and not seriously deny that something is seriously wrong with the distribution of wealth.

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Falke
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Stromberg wrote on 13.11.2023 at 09:56:

That's true and I also find it difficult somehow...

On the other hand, even if it stays in the family, other people then get a lot of money that others work hard for all their lives
work hard for and still never achieve. And they also pay tax on their income.

Of course, you can always say it's just luck or bad luck. Just like whether you are born in Germany or in a war zone in Africa...
But in circumstances where it doesn't hurt anyone, where we are talking about money that you don't normally spend your whole life, I think a little redistribution is fair, as long as it is invested in educational opportunities etc.
Even the most neo-capitalist Monopoly man should be able to recognize and not seriously deny that something is seriously wrong with the distribution of wealth.

But you don't seriously believe that any politician is going to redistribute for you, your neighbor or any other "normal citizen"?


Reduce taxes to a total of 10%, take control of the money away from politicians and you'll see how much money there suddenly is.

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gamble1
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Stromberg wrote on 13.11.2023 at 09:56:

That's true and I also find it difficult somehow...

On the other hand, even if it stays in the family, other people then get a lot of money that others work hard for all their lives
work hard for and still never achieve. And they also pay tax on their income.

Of course, you can always say it's just luck or bad luck. Just like whether you are born in Germany or in a war zone in Africa...
But in circumstances where it doesn't hurt anyone, where we are talking about money that you don't normally spend your whole life, I think a little redistribution is fair, as long as it is invested in educational opportunities etc.
Even the most neo-capitalist Monopoly man should be able to recognize and not seriously deny that something is very wrong with the distribution of wealth.

Of course I agree with you, but when the money is taken, it is usually used for everything except the interests of the people in this country .... If you were to say that pensioners here, some of whom need social benefits to live, receive bonus Xy, I wouldn't care, but it's always the politicians who pocket it or give it away to the world, which only sees us Germans as a laughing stock

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Stromberg
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gamble1 wrote on 13.11.2023 at 19:37:

Of course I agree with you, but mostly the money is used for everything when it is taken one way or another, just not for the interests of your own people in this country .... if you would say here the pensioners who partly need social benefits to be able to live receive bonus Xy I wouldn't care much but it's always the politicians who take it or give it away to the world that only sees us Germans as a laughing stock

I don't think the politicians pocket the money themselves. Of course you can discuss the level of their salaries plus allowances etc. Or lifelong exaggerated pensions plus office and staff etc.

However, when I hear sayings like "politicians can't get their fill" or similar, I always get the feeling that people think the money goes into a treasury where the politicians can then help themselves as they please... 😁

But the point is that most of it is needed for important things like infrastructure, social benefits, salaries, schools, etc.

But I also think that far too much money is not used in the interests of the citizens

Of course, my thought should not only be seen in the light of the current totally failing government, but is more of a fundamental nature.

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Donnie
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gamble1 wrote on 13.11.2023 at 19:37:

Of course I agree with you, but mostly the money is used for everything when it is taken one way or another, just not for the interests of your own people in this country .... if you would say here the pensioners who partly need social benefits to be able to live receive bonus Xy I wouldn't care much but it's always the politicians who take it or give it away to the world that only sees us Germans as a laughing stock

I am in favor of increasing pensions (including wages) not by percentages but by fixed amounts. Of course, pensioners with little pension will then receive more so that there is no more poverty in old age. But what do you care about your own countrymen when you can throw 8 billion at Ukraine (there are soooo many more examples)?

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Stromberg
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Falke wrote on 13.11.2023 at 18:50:

But you don't seriously believe that any politician will redistribute for you, your neighbor or any other "normal citizen"?


Reduce taxes to a total of 10%, take control of the money away from politicians and you'll see how much money there suddenly is.


Of course not, because the people and companies with the big bucks I was talking about will exert their influence accordingly... That brings us full circle😂
But I have hope, and I don't think every person who becomes a politician is inherently evil... Maybe one day we'll get a useful bunch... 😄

Who controls the money then?

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Falke
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Stromberg wrote on 13.11.2023 at 19:54:
Of course not, because the people and companies with the big money I was talking about will already exert their influence accordingly... That closes the circle😂
But I have hope, and I don't think every person who becomes a politician is inherently evil... Maybe one day we'll get a useful bunch... 😄

Who controls the money then?

You can be as good a politician as you want, once you get to the top, you're either in or out.


The people control the money. It simply has to be completely forbidden for politicians to make decisions involving 5 billion here and 10 billion there.
They simply must not be given the power to make stupid decisions. Major investments are voted on by referendum and a politician never has access to any money and is not allowed to give instructions to transfer money here or there.

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Stromberg
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Falke wrote on 13.11.2023 at 20:44:

You can be as good a politician as you want, once you get to the top, you're either in or out.


The people control the money. It simply has to be completely forbidden for politicians to make decisions with 5 billion here and 10 billion there.
They simply must not be given the power to make stupid decisions. Major investments are voted on by referendum and a politician never has access to any money and is not allowed to give instructions to transfer money here or there.

Good in theory, in practice you're just organizing referendums.

(unless you could perhaps do it digitally AND securely)

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Psychedelic
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bigbig wrote on 10.11.2023 at 13:23:

Were free spins on a slot, were 3 times 15 free spins for nothing.put 20 euros in the game before the free spins came.so the bottom line is 16Euro lost.for me this German garbage is done. The casinos are just greedy like our politicians. 🙈

I lost 360 euros at StarGames at 139 euros he went into the free spins at tizona a whole 7.50 win that was it for the entire amount

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