Online Casinos in general: Fraud in Live Casinos [Live Blackjack, Live Roulette]? (Page 3)

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Daniel wrote on 24.09.2017 at 08:32: If what Hammer writes is true, then that is already ne violent number. Would be really cool if someone could record this. My locks are about to expire. Maybe I should play a little Live Casino, so I can better understand. Maybe the new guy who comes to GambleJoe knows more about this topic.

@Vivera sure, it's always good when a broadening of horizons takes place I'm really looking forward to October and the new guy on the team!

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Hammerdammer wrote on 09/24/2017 at 02:14: Let me explain. Sorry for my previous muddy statements. With this, unfortunately, you can do little

I can only repeat myself on one point. I have observed this behavior at NetEnt. Not at Evolution. I said above that I will observe it, but have not yet seen with this Provider

I do not want to impute anything to NetEnt. I am simply sharing facts that I have seen with my own eyes

So to the dealers: I am aware that it does not help the Dealer to know the cards beforehand. (I have also described above) I said that if one already resorts to such means, it must also give others or it is not to be excluded

I explain now times on the basis of some examples how I mean that with the promise of the dealers

Example 1: The dealer has a 4 lying there and gives me a 7. Then the dealer gives me a 9 (so 16) and says: now we have 17
I think to myself: Okey. Maybe he added up my cards wrong. But then his 4 is suddenly joined by a 2 and an ace. Zack there we have the described 17. Well, one can argue about it, because the dealer is a human being and can simply err. I always thought so, even if this has now happened more than 50 times

Example 2: Everyone who is familiar with Live Blackjack knows that there are dealers who say this in complete sentences. For example: If I have a 5 and the dealer has a jack, the dealer says: Your 5 against the jack of the dealer. He repeats this again when the other cards are played

So now the example: The dealer gives me a 9 and has a 3. Then he adds an ace for me and the dealer says in the whole set: your 20 against the dealer's 21. Now I think to myself: What 21? Then he quickly adds a 2, a 6 and a king, and he has the aforementioned 21

One can think here again: Certainly only a stupid provided. But the dealer does it again a few rounds later. I get a jack and the dealer gets a 6. Then I get a 6 and the dealer again in the full set: your 16 against the dealer's 17 where you again think: which 17? Zack there comes an ace in addition and he has the 17...... . This has happened easily more than 40 times

To the number players. Basically I don't care if some players have no understanding of Blackjack and just want to play and draw until the doctor comes. Only as soon as one starts to take away the cards I need or to protect the dealer from busting (as described by Vivera) then it disturbs me violently, because it affects me directly and my money goes down the drain. These players usually only appear when one or more players have a very good luck streak and the dealer e.g. almost only busts. They usually sit at the beginning and at the end of a table (mostly in pairs, sometimes in threes)
I also noticed this at Evolution. It is more than strange that when I have a king and the player in front of me still draws at 20. The cool thing is that he gets an ace or picture card that I would have needed and then I get a small card and lose the round. If I still get a good card, of course, the second is ready and draws again nicely before the dealer, so that the dealer suddenly gets a nice 5 or 6 to his 15 instead of the jack before, with which the player has gebusted of course

I hardly believe that there are real players who just show up at the big providers and throw their money out, because they are interested in seeing others lose (including themselves) and the casino (provider) win

This, for example, is a way for the casino (provider) to make more money without being able to prove anything personally, since they are random players. I think this is just one of many ways to maximize your profit and still be extremely respectable

Personally, I am also interested in why there is so little feedback. Are there no live players here on Gamblejoe or has no one interested in something like that? That really makes you think

I hope I have brought it across so far understandably.

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vivera365 wrote on 24.09.2017 at 10:11 am: I'm just not in the picture ?! Which filmer . which comparison ?! It is not about card counting that is a completely different topic un already for at least 10 years no longer presentable.8 decks are played in the OC incl. cutting card - who wants to count cards.From shuffling machines I do not even want to start - that is the next approach for fraud possibilities ...... .

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vivera365 wrote on 09/24/2017 at 10:46 AM
Still it must be allowed to ask uncomfortable questions - why is it not beneficial ? If it is not - why are there such forums ????
Or are we talking past each other right now ?!??

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vivera365 wrote on 24.09.2017 at 12:02 pm: Yes now it has arrived at me.Is just sometimes difficult to know if the interlocutor has understood correctly if you do not sit opposite,

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TomWegas wrote on 09/24/2017 at 10:57 AM

The "imo not exactly conducive" was related to the fact that it is not good for the providers themselves if some players think that is cheated, because they then play less. Absolute transparency and traceability would be much more conducive to the providers.

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